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I just ran the numbers on my spreadsheet and got $451.11 as the pre-tax lease payment, so I think the leasing math is correct, but I do come up $451 short when I add up the components of the $4,015. I take it from your post that you have to pay the sales tax up front in your state (TX?) rather than add it to the payment every month. So if tax is $1,128, fees are $511, the down payment(cap cost reduction) looks to be $1,925, (assuming the Acquisition fee is added to the net cap cost), then that leaves $451 unaccounted for.
(Your monthly depreciation would be $340.28, and your interest would be $110.83, by the way.)
I'd get a more complete breakdown from the dealer, and repost.
Thanks again, and I'll be posting the nuts and bolts of the deal in the buying exerience forum, and highly recommemding this dealer to anyone who asks.
Is there something I'm missing using this method? The difference between a stripped down A4 and a pretty embellished one isn't that much: about $500 per year or less. Thanks.
Interesting premise. Your method does simplify things, but I think many of us like to crunch the numbers for fun as much as anything else....just for the satisfaction of knowing what the numbers should be, and having a sense of where the "deal" falls compared to where it could fall if you got all the stars lined up in your favor.
Also, I think your range is a bit high for the A4 and its competitors. A pre-tax lease payment of $500 (with $0 down) is $.40 per mile at 15,000 per year, and those payment levels are possible if you do some work.
Just my thoughts.
I asked a couple dealers about the .00062 MF and many of them did not know of it or said it did not apply. Where does your MF info come from, and how can I convince them to look into these rates. The best I can do is a MF of .0019, which is substantially higher than the .00062. It makes a HUGE different in money payments!
Thank you!
I am trying to lease a '07 A4 S-line... 3 yr., 15M miles per..... 57% residual and .0021 lease rate. Still negotiating ...$34,100/ current quoted lease payment of $538. trying to get it to $500
I have got a deal from a local dealer for a 2007 A4 2.0T CVT AUTOMATIC
PREMIUM / LEATHER / SUNROOF / 17" ALLOY WHEELS / CD CHANGER / DUAL CLIMATE CONTROL /
MSRP 32,060
$2800 DOWN
$275 PER MONTH
24 MONTHS
15,000 MILES PER YEAR
My guess is $275 + Tax? Anyway is this a good deal?
I need some input on a lease deal I'm working with University Park Audi in Dallas, Texas. The numbers seem way too high, but I gather it's from the strange lease laws in Texas and the fact Audi is forced to use balloon payments to attempt to circumvent it.
Anyway, listed below are the numbers. If you could take a look and see why it's so high, that would be great.
2007 Audi A4 2.0
Black, beige interior, premium package
MSRP: 32,060
Selling Price: 31,000
APR: 5.85 % (they said they don't use money factors, but this may be due to the lease laws)
Residual: 57% (seems in line with what I've seen)
Miles: 15K
Term: 36 Months
They started with a prce per month of $557. I have them down to $528, but it just seems way too high. I thought with a lease I could get it into the $400 range. Even using their APR of 5.85 as a MF of .00234, I see my payment should be $502. It's still much higher than I'm willing to pay.
I thought I read where the MF on 07 Audi A4 was .00170, which would be an APR of 4.08. Given those numbers, I should be at $464/mo.
Any advice?
I need some serious advice here. I am a recently divorced woman, who for the first time in her life is looking at leasing a new2007 audi. I'm terrified! The dealer told me the cost of the vehicle is 30,340 plus 720(not sure what the 720 is). If I put 2400 down plus the 1st tax price, my monthly car payments would be 340.00/month. This is on a 36 month lease for 10,000 miles. In your opinion is this a good deal. Any input you may have would be greatly appreciated. No trade in is involved. Thank you
I'd greatly appreciate if you can help me out. I'm about to lease an '07 A4 T Quattro Automatic w/heated seats, convenience package, premium package, birch wood trim, bluetooth phone prep.
MSRP 36,510 (they said the package price just came down $900 on Friday)
Cap cost: 34,362 (I get a 6% supplier discount)
24 month lease
Residual value: 72% (Lease end value 25,687.20)
Money factor: .00175
Monthly payment: 494.54 w/$1262,14 due at close (includes 575 Acquisition fee & 160 doc fee)
My questions are:
1) Is this a 'good deal'?
2) Now that the salesman knows that I get a 6% supplier discount, is there any way to negotiate anything more off MSRP?
3) Where can I get good information about the invoice on the car?
I'm going to complete this deal within 1-2 days and would greatly appreciate your help.
Catherine
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When you arrive at an attractive selling price, have the dealer that you are working with use Audi Financial Services' buy rate lease money factor to calculate your car's monthly payment. AFS' current buy rate for a 24 month lease of this model is .00195.
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MSRP - 36260 (sunroof, paint, premium, destination)
Invoice - 33676 (according to edmunds)
Sell Price - 34176
residual - 53%
money factor - .00062
36 month & 15,000 per year
$0 cap cost reduction for a payment of $450
good deal ?
I thought so, so I took it.
then rolled all the other cost, tax, title, etc
on top of the payment at .00062 MF
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I would be happy to give you my opinion of the deal that you were quoted. It would be a big help though if you would provide me with this car's full MSRP first. This number will show me how much of a discount you are being given on the car that you are interested in and it will enable me to use Audi's actual lease program to estimate what your car's monthly payment should be. Let me know and I'll tell you what I think.
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I did end up leasing one for a few hundred over invoice on 9/4/06. I did a two year lease on a loaded 07 S-Line A4 w/ MSRP 40,960. The money factor was .00185, which I believe was Audi's buy rate + .00015 for the waiver of security deposit. (I'm new to Audi; apparently return AFS customers get this waived automatically)
No cap cost reduction and 70% residual for 2 years, 15k/year. It would have been 2% more for a non-SLIne.
I did get more info on the .00062 MF on the 06's. Apparently it was Audi's way of enticing people to continue leasing the 06's b/c the residuals had gone down once the 07's came out. The 07's had higher MF but far better residuals, so when the math was done, the 06 vs 07 was only $10/mo difference. My local dealer had the 07, and the exact car I wanted, so that's what I ended up getting!
I just looked up the MSRP on Edmunds and it is the 30,340 in my area. The TMV price is 29,794. This doesn't sound like such a good dealer. For the monthly payment he quoted I am to put down the 1st tax plus 2400.00. Could you please calculate how much I should be paying monthly, and I was also wondering if they no longer offer free maintanance during the leasing period, is leasing an audi such a good deal? Also looking at BMW's. Left you another post on that subject. Thanks so much for your help!
What state are you in? Yesterday I was quoted (Miami) an A4 S-line, with bluetooth, convenience, premium and Titanium packages for $35,500 and a 24 mo. lease 15K for $597 mo. with 7% taxes. I thought it was excessive for a $35,500 car.
What is your lease payment?
Thaks,
MSRP as configured: $57,210 (including $1700 Gas Guzzler Tax)
Invoice: $53,452 (also including GG)
Lease terms: 36/12k
Residual: 59%
Money Factor: .00312
Local Sales Tax Rate: 8-5/8%
Security Deposit $749 (NY State Max, i'm told)
NYS Upfront Acquisition Fee: $575
NYS Tire Waste Fee: $12.50
Dealer 1 offers invoice + $1000 + Port Prep Fee $195 + District Ad Fee $ 300 = Selling Price of $54,947.
Dealer 2 offers MSRP - $1500 = Selling Price of $ 56,410.
Dealer 1 is $1463 cheaper.
Both dealers calculated monthly payments that i cannot replicate. Both dealers suggest paying the $1700 Gas Guzzler up front and, i suppose, did a cap cost reduction to offset the tax.
Dealer 1 says it'll be $ 781.11/mo w/ $5,548.21 at signing. Dealer not willing to hold that rate, only a "ball park" with actual rate determined upon delivery of vehicle(60 - 90 days).
Dealer 2 says it'll be $872.67/mo w/ $6,280 at signing and will guarantee that figure against potential rate increases at time of delivery. If, however, rates have dropped by then - the lower rate will be used to re-calculate the lease.
My concern is that while the cheaper deal seems attractive, i'm afraid the quoted monthly figure may be low-balled. No mention was made of security deposit for instance.
Dealer 2, while seemingly more expensive, seems to be more accurate and i like the guarantee offer. Also hinted that they might drop to MSAP - $2000 if i walk in...
it's an expensive proposition either way and i'm not sure which way to go. Any thoughts?
Can you please tell me if this is a good deal for an 2007 A4 lease?
2007 A4 2.0 T
12,000 miles a year
3 year lease
Automatic Transmission
Premium Package
$482 to per month.
NO MONEY DOWN
Located in California
tHANKS!
Lori
I'm looking for a 2007 A4 cab too. Did you get any info on the MF? I'm looking to get a 36 mo., 12000 mile deal.
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2007 A4 2.0T Quattro
Deep Blue Sea Pearl Effect Paint
Premium Package
Heated front seats
Audio Package with Sirius
MSRP according to Edmunds: $34,985
Cost/Sale price: $34,000
Money Factor: .00220
Residual Value: $25,189.20
Cost to get the car from other dealer: $250
Quoted monthly payment: $479.00 with MA taxes. This is for a 24 month lease with 15k miles per year allowance with 2k up front costs (including everything).
This sounds a little too high for me, should I be able to get a better deal? Please, help as I have put the car on hold but only have 48 hours to get it!
Thank you in advance.
Long time reader, first time posting. I'm working a deal with a dealership in my area (So. Cal.) It's on an
07 A4 CVT 2.0T Sedan
option: Premium pkg.
Dolphin grey/ Ebony int.
M.S.R.P $31435
sale price $ 28000
Term is 24/15k/1k drive off
Payment $369 and change Tax included.
Does any one think I can do better?
P.S. M.F. .0021
Residual 72% sorry if I left anything else out.
That sounds like the perfect deal. I ran those numbers through the calculator and got $480. (I only put in $1K down in the calc,the other $1K was used for upfront costs) Thats a sweet deal, maybe I should talk to the guys down there about getting my next car.
And the A4 is $30-35k for the 2.0T engine?
Premium Pkg
Convience Pkg
Cold Weather Pkg
Navigation
Sport Suspension
Bluetooth
Metallic Paint
MSRP is $38060
Invoice is $35233
"Purchase price" was $500 over invoice
Money Factor was .00200
Residual for 36 month/15k was 58%
With rolling in the $575 acquistion, $550 for scheduled maintenance, $0 cap cost and 5% sales tax
Monthly came to be $564 including taxes with $1114 total due at signing with security waived. Is this right? By my calcs I figured $500 over invoice ($35733) should be $554 a month?
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What is the Oct MF/residual for '07 A4 FWD 24/15k? Based on the current Audi lease deal, it looks to be a .00185 MF with a 72% residual. That's the only way I was able to come up with pre-tax payment of $359 on an MSRP of 30390. Is this accurate?
I was looking at a VW GLI or GTI, but there is no lease support for these at VW right now...much like the A3. This lease deal from Audi seems like a no brainer.
2007 A4 2.0T Quattro AT6
Deep Blue Sea Pearl Effect Paint
Premium Package
Convenience Package
Winter Package
MSRP (including destination $720): $37,310
Cost/Sale price: $34,806
Residual Value: $26,215.20
Quoted monthly payment: $486.00 with 5% MA taxes. This is for a 24 month lease with 15k miles per year allowance with 2k down (including up front costs). Is this a good deal???
Also, is it better to roll the acquisition fee into the overall sale price or pay it up front in the 2k down? (Sorry if this is a dumb question).
Thank you!!!
a4 2.0
standard shift
metalic paint
NAV, sound, prem package...
"adjusted?"sales price 37830.17
MF: .002
36 months at 542.20 or 30 months for 531
Advice is appreciated, this would be my first audie.
A4 2.0T quattro Phantom Black
Total Base with Options 38485
(Prem, Conv, Wood, Bluetooth, Cold weather,Paint, Freight)
0 Down, 24 month, Interest rate 6.51 = .0027125 MF
Taxes 7.75%, Proposed Monthly Pymt $756
Invoice is 35040 (3445 profit to dealer)
Seems excessive to me, by my calc I get a $705 monthly pymt on this car with $1000 over invoice. Is $1000 over invoice reasonable??
Thanks for any help.