Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see the latest vehicles!
King of Torque? Cummins, Duramax, Powerstoke...
According to the tests conducted by the people at
truck trend in decembers issue, say that the king
of torque goes to the Dodgeram/cummins engine.
They dyno read 604lbs torque at the rear wheels.
It was a 3/4 ton 4x4 qc sport, with 4.10 diff.
The duramax was a crew cab automatic,4x4 3.73
gears, and the ford was a 2wd reg cab 3.73 gears.
truck trend in decembers issue, say that the king
of torque goes to the Dodgeram/cummins engine.
They dyno read 604lbs torque at the rear wheels.
It was a 3/4 ton 4x4 qc sport, with 4.10 diff.
The duramax was a crew cab automatic,4x4 3.73
gears, and the ford was a 2wd reg cab 3.73 gears.
Tagged:
0
This discussion has been closed.
Comments
LOL
- Tim
I guess none of the manufacturers take Truck Trend comic books seriously....especially Ford who sent a 2 wd truck...did it even have a locker?
Dean
- Tim
an Elephant to a Mule. Both will/can carry
heavy loads or maybe a Tugboat to a Bayliner.
Cummins B engine was detuned from 1200 HP to
200 for Dodge truck application to avoid
destruction and obliteration of the Heavy
duty and very robust Dodge Ram drivetrain....
this is according to the Dodge Ram diesel
buffs....Maybe the Cummins engine should be compared to Caterpiller, Detroil Diesel or Fairbanks Morse diesels.
that's a good one...
- Tim
....Dodge ripps out the trannys and clutches....cuz along with their brakes they are crap!
- Tim
...yes a 2500 will have larger brakes that are impressive...as are my 2500 brakes...
I am only speaking the facts about Dodge and trannys and brakes....it goes back to the 60's....hold on!....the Dodge technology is still there!
- Tim
Mine is last of the late great C2500. Built
1/27/00 at 12:55 in Arlington, Texas. This is
last year for CK. I believe they were discontinued earlier in the year. i drove the
new Silverados with 4.8 and 5.3 Vortec engines,
lots of HP but torque range too flat for my tastes. Perfer to spank the weaky squeaky
ancient Dodge circa '50's 5.2, circa '70's
Aspen/Volare 5.9 and the wannabe 4.7 SOHC COTY
magnum. A true magnum is the 383/440 engines
that were great for racing against other MOPAR..
I know the new hemi's are due out, still will be
a weak contender against GM. Just like in
high school with '63 Chevy 409 vs Ramcharger
413 and the mudduck 426 Hemis-no contest.
WAS THERE, LIVED IT, LOVED IT AND WILL NEVER FORGET IT. Ow well, nostalga is great.
Beware of being spanked by the VORTEC 6.0L.
All Dodge lovers/owners, keep your lil trucks
in garage to avoid severe spanking....
Hmmm
Ryan
ryan,
GM dealer was the only ones who could figure out those damn dodge brakes. That's good cause the chevy dealer can't figure out chevy brakes...LOL!!
Amora, 409's beating 426 Hemis? 7.5 second 0-60 in a C/K 2500?? The legal marijuana issue on the ballot in some states was supposed to be for medical purposes only. Must be those cataracts you have.
early '61 and used to go to Lion's drag strip in
Long Beach, Ca and see Hayden Profitt, Don
Nicholson and a few other Chevy killer drivers
smoke the Mopar hemis with their 409's, also
listen to Beach Boy's song 409, its all there,
{Iam speaking of super stocks not dragsters}.
Mary Jane came later (late sixties)...
Anyway, Cummins is torque monster (elephant)
Durmax is (KING KONG) hows that for anology?
RE: Chevy brakes, am going to replace with
larger disc all around..they leave a lot to be desired....
timing my 3/4 ton BOOTY SPANKER. 7.5 sec is
avg for 5 runs. Watch is available at SEARS
jewelry department. Look for discounts....
back to topic...
DURAMAX is way to go.....
oops: ummm, re 5.7, i have quite a few mods;
(K & N, JET CHIP to disable speed limiter,
cat back exhaust.....etc)
Harry
...come here grape head!
- Tim
any "booty wacking er smacking or spanking" the 409 was doing
in '60 or '61 wasn't against a 426 Hemi.
I don't really like Chryslers but the 426 Hemi did
have its moments.
wasn't it Keith Black who used to build motors using the Mopar 426 to build 499's?
'64. It was the 413 ram induction Dodges that
were being smoked. But then again the 426 Hemis
(SUPER STOCKS THAT IS) had a tough time of it
with the 409's and 421 Pontiacs. Not to get off the subject too much, first stock car to break
100 in the 1/4 mi at Detroit dragway was a 1959
Pontiac catalina with a 389 Tri-power ( 3 carbs)
set up. In '62 a BUICK with a 401 also did the
honors. Returning to DURAMAX killer diesel
topic.....
Just what does etc. mean?
And I'm sure, the Jet chip is just for getting rid of the speed limiter.
Since you didn't say it was 4x4, should we assume your truck is not?
Curious minds want to know.
mechanical ability of close neighbors, family,
self, i added a shift kit to auto tranny for
crisp, firmer shifts, dialed in chip for
improved throttle, passing response and improved
fuel economy (from 14-19 mpg at steady 66 mph)
without using premium fuel. 5.7l engine breathes
thru BORLA headers, dual catylitic (factory)
perverters. applied some old hot rod trucks is all.
Have owned 4x4 and 2wd pickups since 1961. FORDS,
GMC, CHEVIES, mini and full size and a few
SUV's. Had '83 F150 long bed w/302-4V GT
mustang engine, very hot, sold at 277,000 mi to
construction worker in late '80s, also had
'94 F150 long bed 5.0 EFI. Also very great truck.
loved them both. Am loyal to none. If I like
looks, features of truck, will buy it. Have
owned several S10s and Rangers. Most trouble
free were the FORDS. S10's w/4.3 V6 very fast
with like mods. love the old and new LIGHTNING,
very formidable...prefer chevy small block due
to high rpm and output. May consider DODGE ram
in late 2002-2003 if new HEMI engine becomes available. Iam aware of awesome potential of
OHC modular Ford engines. I like 4.6L very much,
am aware of piston slap of 5.4L, i feel it is
minor mfg flaw. I do not care for the looks of
'97 and newer F150's. Too ASIAN...do not mean
to offend or affront..just opinion...sales of
F150's very spectacular...the Harley Davidson
and LOBO F150 models very awesome...the HD F250
more macho looking than Dodge RAMBO. i feel '00
Silverado w/4.8 and 5.3 Vortec engines too lite
in TORQUE for me. Horsepower ratings ultra high,
but engineers know about torque, hence my
desire for the 5.0, 5.7, 7.4l vortec pushrods...
From published data, FORDS have great torque and
high tech engines. 300hp HOTROD LINCOLN Navigator
more formidable than TAHOE/SUBURBAN...just my
opinion. drove a souped up '89 hot rod LINCOLN mark series with 5.0L, lots of fun, very fast.
regards
All I have done so far is the K&N and Flowmaster.
(I just built a new house) Next year I'll get the headers & chip.
It sounds like we have a lot in common, when it comes to tinkering with everything we own. And I love camping and motortsports too. I live in Atlanta, and I have 4 tickets to the NAPA 500 this Sunday. Then I'll be hooking up the camper and going out for Thanksgiving.
You know a lot. You just need some gimkoba(?) to get that memory back. LOL!!!!
350...hmmm I guess Iam not an elephant....
I do remember my '55 Belaire had 265-4V,
powerglide, would do 86 in 16 sec in K-STOCK
auto class back in Summer of '62. Also got
a ticket for doing 110 mph on Long Beach freeway.
An LA interceptor ('62 Pontiac Ventura 389-3x2
poleece car did me in) Pop pulled license,
friends stopped coming by- SHUCKS...My buddy in
his '55 T-Bird with 292-4v got away..
after 1st rebuild, i flattened the cam somewhat
by over tightening the rockers to eliminate
some clicking. Engine was full of 100 lbs of
sludge. I hot dipped the block, washed down
the parts with kerosene, installed new timing
chain, rings, milled heads .015, added glaspacks,
rebuilt powerglide tranny. Had 3:70 axel ratio.
I used Bardahl straight 30 oil. Pop was
body and fender repairman and had painted
my 2dr hardtop diamond black enamel. Took 3 days
to dry, had baby moon hubcaps- beautiful car.
I sold it when I joined Air Force in late '64...
i regret it to this day.
I remember '68-'69 Novas with 327/350 engines.
Pop had an avocado green '70 impala 2 dr with 427
motor. He also had a 68 Chevelle with 327-4V.
I stand corrected again re 302. I remember
the 350 long journal engines. In late 69,
I bought a used primered '64 chevy 3/4 step side with granny gears and 235 six. We installed a '63
327 engine from demolished vette. I melted
the 16in nylon tires first time out and went
thru several clutches. never lost a street race.
I drove this truck throught my college years and then sold it in '79 and bought first new truck, '80 GMC heavy half with 350-4V. A very troublesome truck. Just a little nostalga....
Pop is now 81, still has his '74 Cheyenne with
'77 Z28 engine bored out .030. Plans to take it
with him when he passes the purly gates...
Regards,
Andy
It's HP that matters at the rpm you want to operate the motor.
hill in So. California then you would want
the torque in the upper range...ala 2000
Chevy Silverado 5.3 or '01 6.0. My 5.7L
may follow the newer vortecs up the hill
passing the Dodge and Fords...hmmmm yes that
about does it. As Steve Jobs would say
"BEEN THERE DONE THAT"
Mechanical engineers love or should love pickup trucks, hot rods, BMW's (Electrical engineers) and the SUV's to keep mama happy....At least I do...
Love those RPN Calculators...and bamboo sliderules
First, Pickets are still better than K&E! I still use one of them batteryless calculators.
Second, the Grapevine (Southerly direction) proves 'There ain't no substitute for cubes'.
Frequently I would take my old '86 with a 6.9 L up the Grapevine and look at what it took to pass me. Usually it was at least $50,000. Once I started from zero MPH in Grapevine and was hitting about 80 MPH long before the 4000 foot marker.
The '92 non turbo 7.3 only improved things. The '99 PowerStroke is a real kick to push a high dollar BMW or MB over the top of the hills and get over 17 MPG while doing it!
Rich
much easier than slip stick. watchout for
crocked hairline of those old pickets that is why
K & E slightly better...use my HP32SII to balance
checkbook, my old HP35 and 41CV self destructed
years ago. cos 45 still .707 oopps, sorry that is
high school math.....my SUN SPARC stn does it all,
summations of moments of inertia, WT, mass...
my ole '83 F150 long bed w/dual tanks, batteries,
3:55 axel, auto overdrive tranny, 302-2V, custom dual exhaust, COBRA 148GTL SSB CB, 102 in Stn stl
whip antenna with 1:1 SWR, and a few engine mods
did 85 mph before 4000 ft. marker...and that was
with a clothes dryer in bed....no kidding
for KEVINO: ummm let see, a V10 is limited to
110 mph unless you added chip to disable limiter,
well, did you?? otherwise your limiter will allow
you to read my rear plates, then watch them
fade in the distance....
ps: my booty spanking pickup eats V10's for
breakfast and dinner...stock ones anyway....FOMOCO,
DODGE no difference...
There is nothing better than a TI-89. best $150 ive spent todate
Ryan
Had several TI's. they all gave same answer,
RPN more natural. Fewer keystrokes. Nobody in
the whole world solves problem like this: 2x2=
first you write down 2, then another 2 underneath
then add, in HP RPN calclulators you do same theing, press 2, ENTER, then press another 2 then
* key. No stinkin equals sign is needed. Very
proper and natural. My first calulator was
HP35 in 1974, about $195 big ones. first TI was
TI 59 Programmable with magnetic cards, I quickly
installed RPN module and kicked [non-permissible content removed] in Physics and
Chemistry classes until TI self destructed.
I also took the last sliderule class (1 unit)
concurrent with chemistry class (5 units)...
calculus was favorite class...love numbers,
son has BS in math, he is ACTUARY...eeeek
HP better made, like 3/4 ton Chevy pick-up.
My compliments to you and your chosen career. You
will truly enjoy this field. Been at it since
1974. Started as junior draftsman, took classes
at night, finished in '80. Have AA in drafting,
AS engineering technology, BS Mechanical engineering. Worked in silicon valley 14 years,
great experience. If I had to do it over, I would
have chosen Computer Science...thinking about
going for BS CIS (Computer information service),
close to MBA. lots of engineers suppliment with
MBA also PE license...I myself prefer CAD/CAM
engineering, more concept work than theory.
If you want high tech, come to california, lots
of openings, no one wants to study engineering,
all want to be lawyers and CEO's, more foreigners
coming to US to fill open slots....If you have
great mechanical apptitude and love vehicles you
will be very successful....
Regards,
"saluting the new upcoming DODGE RAMBO HEMI-HEAD
pickups" watch your backside, these trucks look
like they will spank the competition big time.
Currently using an HP15C, use a TI92+ for occasional DiffyEQ. HP much quicker, more intuitive.
Unbeknownst to me, Sister sold my science fair won slide rule while I was away at college many years ago. Kinda forgot about it. My father passed away a couple of years ago, gonna lose mom this year too, Sis asked what I wanted from all the stuff at the house, I thought about it for awhile and said "ya know, I'd like that slide rule that I won back in high school, do you know where mom stored it?"
Sis kinda gacked and choked a little, and fessed up that she got a whopping $.50 for it back in the 80's....
Next door neighboor, a retired ME prof, heard about the story and "gifted" me the one he used all the way thru college in the 1950's....
Kinda nice belonging to the "engineering" club.
slide rule, forget C and D scale alignments....
"HEMI DODGE PICKUPS RULE, the 2003's anyway"
Ryan
check here:
http://web-inforum.net/tbullock/sliderule.html
for the abacus:
http://library.thinkquest.org/3711/
In adding and subtracting functions, the abacus was proven faster than the calculator.
Pro/E 2000i3 already loaded on SUN UNIX SPARC
stn undergoing evaluation, also INTRALINK,
still using ProPDM...wish they would switch over,
the drafters are on Windows Weenie NT PeeCees,
I HATE PEECEES! THEY CRASH AND BURN BIG TIME,
GIVE ME A MAC OR UNIX STN ANYDAY, just like
calculators, HP superior..... Used AUTOCAD
from rel 10-13, have ACAD 2000 on my Sony VAIO
laptop....I HATE AUTOCAD, IT IS LIKE DRAWING WITH
CRAYONS..although best 2D CAD software out there,
Solid Works growing in use, so is CATIA and
SDRC IDEAS---eeeek...have Pro/E 2000I2 student
edition on my tiny 10.5 in screen SONY VAIO
laptop with 32 megs of RAM and it runs just fine..
May upgrade to IBM THINKPAD 770 with CDR and also
purchase a MAC laptop. G4s are killer processors,
can outperform PeeCees in math modeling....
Just like Chevy trucks more powerful than Fomoco
or German owned Dodges....right??