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Car_man
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2009 C350 black, black interior, MB tex with Ipod integration kit. 39 months, 12K miles/year, $512/ month (including 7% tax) and $2500 total due at signing. Is this a good deal? Does any one thinks I can be able to lower it to $450 including tax? MSRP is $40,200
They are also offering me the following deal for a 2009 C300:
Cash Due $2500, $446 (including 7% tax) 39 months, 12,000 Miles
C300W $32,900
650 Arctic White
101 Black MB-Tex
057 iPod Integration Kit $375
333 333 Sport Sedan: Sport Body Styling, Mer
486 : Sport Suspension
772 : AMG Sportline
952 : Sportline Package
954 : Avant Garde Package (Sport)
427 427 7-Speed Automatic Transmission (Requ $1,460
427 : 7-Speed Automatic Transmission (Required
929 : Dual Fuel Gasoline-Ethanol (E85)
739 Aluminum Trim
786 18"AMG 5-twin-spoke alloy wheels $1,010
SUBTOTAL $35,745
DESTINATION & DELIVERY $875
TOTAL $36,620
resid =54%
money factor 0.00091
tier1 credit
msrp price is 39622 if i remember correctly.
is this a good deal?
What MF should I be expecting?
Thanks for your help.
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Mercedes-Benz is not currently providing any cash incentives on the 2009 C300, but it does have 0.9% to 1.9% financing or a special lease program available on it this month.
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Your money factor is .0002?? That is less than one percent, .48% to be exact. Are you sure it's .0002 and not .0020?
I am looking into leasing a MB and was wondering if that is the actual MF that MB is offering.
Car_man,
Do you know what the August MF is?
Thanks a lot!!!
Term=39 months
Base Payment=440.89
MSRP=39,910.00
Miles Per Year= 15,000
Disposition Fee= 595.00 (is this a neccessary fee)
MONEY DUE AT INCEPTION=
1st month=440.48
security deposit=0
Aquisition fee= 1,095.00 (IS THIS FEE RIGHT? SEEMS HIGH!)
Fees and Ins.- 305.00
Upfront taxes= 1361.37
cap reduction=0
total out of pocket=3202.26
PLEASE A LITTLE HELP. I am trying to learn. I think this is a good deal but not 100% sure. What can i do to make it better?
2009 C300 Sport/Auto/P1/iPod/Wood. Black/Black.
39 month/10K miles
MSRP: $38,070
Sale price: $33,500
Residual: 54%
MF: .00075
$399/month incl. sales tax (0 cap cost reduction, $795 acc fee + $399 first month + registration due at signing)
What do you think?
The acq fee seems quite high. the dealer can jack this up to make extra profit. Call a couple other dealers to talk leases and ask them. If it's a mercedes financial lease they have a floor amount, but dealers can go above that.
You need to know what the selling price is of the car. That's called the "capitalized cost" and is a crucial number in a lease calculation.
Also, the dealer can increase the "money factor" (what the interest rate is called in a lease) to make extra dough over the term of the lease. Make sure the dealer is using the same money factor that MBZ Financial is giving him.
The residual value is set by MBZ for length of lease and mileage and the dealer cannot mess with that.
what packages were on your C class.. was it c300 2009 also?
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I am looking into an 09 C300 4matic Sport is with an MSRP of 42205 and selling price of 36759. Could you please tell me the MF and residual for a 36/39 month lease with 10 and 12k a year please?
Thanks!
Thanks!!
Thanks for your help!
The bottom line is that consumers should look up the invoice price of the car that they want, subtract any available cash incentives, add a little to that and then start comparison shopping with a few dealers in there area, going with the one that offers them the lowest total price.
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Even though Mercedes isn't providing lease support on the '09 C300 4Matic, it does have $3,000 dealer cash on it right now. Make sure to take this cash into account when negotiating your deal.
If you really want to lease, you probably would be better off going with a 2010 model. MBF's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for an equivalent '10 model would be .00163 and 57%.
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I realize this is of no big concern to the fine folks at Edmunds. But it makes a huge difference to the dealership and its sales team. Edmunds should strive to offer accurate information, and brushing aside facts hurts your credibility, and furthers misunderstandings to the consumer.
And your comment about "power bills, floorplan", etc it totally off the wall. Don't know where you came up with that. You need to get your facts straight if you are going to pose as an authoritative voice of Edmunds. Otherwise, you are simply misleading people.
I am interested in getting this lease, but either eliminating the premium package or substituting other options.
Can the Mercedes special lease offers be modified?
I am hoping that by eliminating the premium package i can either reduce my monthly payment or down payment.
Please Advise...thanks in advance
Edmunds does have a clickable link under their "National Base Price" explaining IRG or ADV, but most folks don't bother reading it.
Power bills and floorplan simply have nothing to do with it, and weren't pertinent to the conversation.
Thanks.......
how did I do?
Note I am going to speak with them in a bit regarding the exact details so will update it when I get back.
MSRP
minus Margin in Car (I would think margin in MSRP - Invoice, so at invoice)
Addition 4k off for selling price
Lease rate of 233 (employee lease rate?)
What do you guys think?
Residual 55% on 36 mo
from what i've found out about the 09 incentives is the c300 has 4k they can work with and c350 they have 5k they can work with
i used edmunds and cd invoice and just subtracted from there
one place went lower then that at 10,200 below MSRP on the C350 but the MF was standard, so they dropped selling cost but are trying to make it up in the MF
the other went invoice minus 4k and money factor was employee 233
I'm in Socal
So far it's been easy to get 8K off a C300, but the tricky part is trying to get that with the employee pricing for money factor.
How did you get a 55% residual number for 36mo? I was quoted 53% for 12k/36mo and 54% for 36mo/10K.
Have you spoken to FJ in Newport Beach or MB of Laguana Nigel? Do you mind letting me know which dealer is offering you the employee pricing for the MF?
I've gotten the exact same, big discount 10,200 with a high (standard MF) that was with FJ
Anaheim is decent with their pricing - MF at employee, they won't go as low as FJ though, I've been hitting 7k off MSRP with the emp. lease rate...
So the best I've seen so far
2009 C300 - Invoice minus 4k
what's crazy is the C350 is discounted to the point that it is almost the same price as the C300 but the MF is just high
This is with ZERO cap cost and ZERO drive off ;!
Also I am waiting to see if the person (scottmac) who posted before us would respond how he got only 6K off MSRP, but got a lease deal of $435+tax with just 1st month, tax/title,and bank fee. Using even the employee discounted MF I can't get to that lease number.
Basing it on 44,500 MSRP and 38,500 as selling price with 53% residual (assuming for 39 month special), MF of 0.00233, and 39 months I get a $526+tax.
I'd like to know what residual and MF they used to calculate that deal.
overall i think fj has the best pricing on MB based on volume and concessions they have with mb but the MF is kicker...
i was going to go with a loaded c350 but given the fact i'm going 36 and not purchasing at end lease i think it'd be better to just go with lowest lease which is lowest MF
Lets all clarify what we can get, so we all know what to aim for.
A family member of mine got this deal, but my numbers were given vaguely, so maybe we can all figure it out.
MSRP $ 41000
Sold price $ 30000
MF .00003
Residual 54% 10k miles
payment...$233. around 700 out of pocket. 36month lease, 10k miles
this is a SICK deal, i've been frantically trying to get a hold of them for exact details, but they left out of town(england).
Has anyone else been offered a deal in this range?...that does have access to employee.
I know sounds a little crazy to believe, but when mercedes gives a TRUE employee price, there MF is practically zero, guess thats the real perk of true employee.
I will absolutely confirm the #'s once I find out more. Others please do so as well.
Dealers can cry that this is part of the invoice all they want, but then they should let consumers back out all of the money that Mercedes kicks back to them in terms of holdback and any other CSI-based, floorplan assistance, etc... that they get. I guarantee you that the money that dealers car back on back-end is well in excess of this small ad fee...but I never mention that to consumers. I'm trying to help people simplify the process by looking at the vehicle's actual price rather than including all sorts of random stuff.
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