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this probably doesnt work for you given the stable of new MBs you have....but to put the R350 in a different light...at $30k would you rather own a 2yr old R350 with 24k miles or a new chrysler pacifica? with pretty decent reliability so far, i would take the R in a heartbeat...
i would buy my '06 R500 for $32-34k right now. and i expect to buy it in the late fall at lease end hopefully for high 20s....
I am not sure how the factory gets dealers to take off lease cars and prices them, but assuming that a dealer didnt want the car and put it to auction it would only fetch mid to high 20s....(strange that there are no reported 350s coming through the manheim auction PA).
R350's
05/14/08 ATLANTA Lease $28,750 22,344 Above OBS BLK 6G A Yes
05/14/08 ATLANTA Lease $26,250 32,357 Avg PEWTR 6G A Yes
05/14/08 ATLANTA Lease $25,000 49,359 Avg PEWTR 6G A Yes
05/13/08 ST LOUIS Lease $24,500 8,775 Below ALP RAN 6G A No
05/13/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $27,100 26,240 Avg BLK 197 6G A Yes
05/13/08 DFW Lease $25,000 26,863 Avg ALB WHT 6G A Yes
05/13/08 DFW Lease $25,000 18,870 Avg PEWTR 6G A Yes
05/09/08 MANHEIM Lease $26,750 29,551 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $28,000 29,629 Above BLACK 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $27,500 14,681 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $26,750 26,960 Avg ALP RAN 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $26,750 13,121 Avg PEWTER 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $26,250 23,295 Avg ALP RAN 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $26,000 22,708 Avg PEWTER 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $26,000 12,739 Avg IRI SIL 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $25,750 28,103 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $25,250 24,025 Avg PEWTER 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $24,750 26,736 Below PEWTER 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $24,750 22,483 Below PEWTER 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $24,750 17,450 Below ALP RAN 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $24,500 26,168 Below IRI SIL 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $24,250 33,177 Below PEWTER 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $24,250 25,670 Below BLACK 6G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $23,750 23,451 Below BLACK 6G A No
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Regular $23,500 14,784 Below BLACK 6G A No
05/07/08 W PALM Lease $30,000 23,359 Above OBS BLK 6G A No
05/07/08 W PALM Lease $27,750 27,999 Avg ALP RAN 6G A Yes
05/07/08 W PALM Lease $27,000 28,910 Avg ALP RAN 6G A Yes
05/07/08 DALLAS Lease $27,000 22,844 Avg WHITE 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $28,250 27,128 Above ALB WHT 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $28,250 18,922 Above PEWTR 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $28,000 28,897 Above BLK 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $27,500 26,959 Avg OBS BLK 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $27,250 19,569 Avg OBS BLK 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $27,250 16,374 Avg IRI SIL 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $26,750 24,197 Avg MAROON 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $26,500 25,851 Avg ALP RAN 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $26,500 21,549 Avg BLK 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $26,250 27,794 Avg OBS BLK 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $26,000 33,181 Avg BLK 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $25,750 40,679 Avg BLK 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $25,750 27,647 Avg PEWTR 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $25,750 24,988 Avg IRI SIL 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $25,500 30,806 Avg IRI SIL 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $25,500 26,822 Avg PEWTR 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $24,750 43,609 Below IRI SIL 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $24,750 29,462 Below IRI SIL 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $24,500 27,839 Below BLK 6G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $24,250 45,635 Below CPR BLU 6G A Yes
05/06/08 FAAO Regular $28,900 18,625 Above GOLD 6G A Yes
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R500's
04/22/08 STATESVL Regular $28,700 34,489 Avg SILV 8G A Yes
04/23/08 MILWAUKE Lease $25,750 16,481 Below PEWTR 8G A No
04/24/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $28,750 35,890 Avg IRI SIL 8G A Yes
04/25/08 MANHEIM Regular $30,500 37,867 Above WHITE 8G A Yes
04/25/08 MANHEIM Regular $29,800 26,922 Above BLACK 8G A Yes
04/30/08 KC Regular $26,600 39,146 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
04/30/08 ATLANTA Lease $26,500 33,851 Avg ALP RAN 8G A Yes
05/01/08 MANHEIM Regular $30,800 27,188 Above BLACK 8G A Yes
05/01/08 MANHEIM Lease $28,000 29,866 Avg PEWTR 8G A Yes
05/01/08 MANHEIM Regular $28,000 26,974 Avg PEWTER 8G Yes
05/01/08 MANHEIM Lease $26,000 40,269 Below IRI SIL 8G A Yes
05/02/08 MANHEIM Regular $30,750 26,644 Above WHITE 8G A Yes
05/02/08 MANHEIM Regular $29,700 34,263 Above BLACK 8G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $29,250 11,674 Avg BLK 8G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $28,750 22,960 Avg PEWTR 8G A Yes
05/06/08 ST LOUIS Lease $27,750 25,946 Avg ALB WHT 8G A Yes
05/07/08 W PALM Lease $27,750 19,809 Avg CPR BLU 8G A Yes
05/07/08 NADE Regular $27,250 47,156 Avg SILVER 8G A Yes
05/08/08 RIVRSIDE Lease $25,000 69,387 Below BLACK 8G A Yes
05/08/08 DFW Lease $26,500 34,813 Avg BLACK 8G A Yes
05/08/08 AWS Regular $32,000 32,627 Above Gray 8CY A No
05/09/08 MANHEIM Regular $28,900 30,917 Avg BLACK 8G Yes
05/14/08 SEATTLE Lease $27,000 27,620 Avg IRI SIL 8G A Yes
05/14/08 SEATTLE Lease $25,500 33,063 Below PEWTR 8G A Yes
05/14/08 ATLANTA Lease $28,500 21,721 Avg IRI SIL 8G A Yes
05/14/08 ATLANTA Lease $27,250 23,546 Avg PEWTR 8G A Yes
05/15/08 MANHEIM Lease $28,750 34,056 Avg IRI SIL 8G A Yes
05/15/08 MANHEIM Lease $28,500 27,581 Avg ALB WHT 8G A Yes
05/15/08 MANHEIM Lease $27,750 40,085 Avg BLACK 8G T Yes
05/15/08 MANHEIM Lease $27,000 34,741 Avg PEWTR 8G T Yes
05/16/08 MANHEIM Regular $25,000 55,466 Below BLACK 8G A Yes
05/20/08 FAAO Lease $29,500 16,265 Avg IRI SIL 8G A Yes
05/20/08 FAAO Lease $28,750 34,716 Avg ALB WHT 8G A Yes
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24 M – Residual 56% of – .00050
36 M – Residual 48% of – .00080
48 M – Residual 36% of – .00080
2008 Mercedes R350 4matic
24 M – Residual 58% of – .00065
36 M – Residual 49% of – .00095
48 M – Residual 37% of – .00095
Programs are for 15k annual miles. Add 2% for 12k, and 3% for 10k.
Thank you OCautoseeker.
medpP
That seems like a good deal to me. Any thoughts?
The lease payments, with $0 capitalized cost reduction, 12,000 miles per year, 33 months, should be about $635/month including tax of 7.35%. This based on a residual value of 55% and a money factor of .00075, which according to the dealer are the numbers MB is offering now under a new promotion.
According to Edmunds, the invoice is $48,200 and there is $2,000 cash back to the dealer on leases, so this offer of $46,000 is slightly under the "net" invoice.
At one dealer: Invoice $56,170 for Alpine Rain : $2450 due at signing, he came down to $699/mo (from $722).
At another dealer for similar vehicle $4700 at signing and $610/mo. Both inlcude taxes. Both scenarios strike me as high compared to what I have seen on this board. I'd be interested in other feedback.
Thoughts?
I wonder if it is the RSE that is killing me because every dealer I speak with tells me once they add that to the P2 pkg the monthly nut for the lease is over $700. I was hoping to stay in the $585 - $620 range and the only way that is happening is if I drop 4k - 5k up front, which for a lease is ridiculous.
Thanks
Paying $600+/month for 24 months plus down payment, you are paying about $20k for 2 years!!
Why not just buy it? It may cost $50k but it makes much more sense if you keep it for a few years longer, it worths the bucks to buy it.
Plus, why would people buy a mercedes or bmw if they cannot afford it? i've seen people in my company probably make only around $60k a year but he drives a $40k bmw. And he thinks he can afford it because his paycheck has enough to cover the monthly lease. Well, it seems a lot of people are doing the same, but I just don't get it.
For example I own a 2001 Audi A6 that I purchased certified pre-owned when it came off of a lease (not mine) and after the extended warranty ran out I have been avg about $3k a year in repairs, mostly normal wear and tear (brakes, tires, etc.) plus a couple of other annoying items. Take that plus the $90 oil changes several times a year and it adds up, and is quite annoying as well.
In my opinion it is just plain easier to lease and re-up for a newer model in 2-3 years. You keep a reasonable monthly payment, take advantage of the latest & greatest gadgets, advancements, etc., and you don't have to worry about the somewhat unexpected cost and inconvenience of repairs when things wear out or just plain break - which will happen with every car. Additionally you get better service/attention from the dealer beause they know when your lease runs out that you are going to be in the market again.
I do not disagree with your point of making monthly lease payments with no ownership, but from my perspective you are also paying for the added convenience and piece of mind that you don't have to worry about being in the repair shop when things start to wear down, which they will over time.
With regards to cost, affording a luxury vehicle is not an issue for me, but I am sure everyone would agree that no one wants to be paying more money for a similar vehicle then the next guy. That is why these forums are so popular so it can give the average joe some leverage when dealing with a vendor that histroically has stuck it to the uninformed buyer.
my lease was scheduled to run out in Oct and the dealership called about a 3 month loyalty on the E class and then stated it was also valid on the r class--a good deal all in all-will have to pay overage in miles-did not want to roll them into a new lease
Thoughts?
do you have more info like the money factor, miles per year, and the negotiated amount paid for the car?
ours was same -08 r350 4matic,etc... paid 783.00 out of pocket-which was basically first months' payment -payments 638.?? month for 36 months?
did notice steering on 08 is mushy-i like the steering on 06 better-other than that very pleased
Thanks
First, thank you for all of your contributions to this forum. I have gained tons of knowledge here.....just enough to be dangerous, I guess.
After a few months of researching, I finally decided the time was right to get into an r350. Especially since the dealer stocks of 08 models are getting thin in some colors. Also, some of the deals people have been posting for purchases and leases have been great.
I am looking at an R350 4matic with P2, ipod, 7 seat, 6cd and heated seats with an MSRP of about 56.5K. I am interested in leasing primarily.
My local dealer proposed the following lease:
33 months/15K miles
$53988 gross cap cost (TTL, 3% Virginia tax)
0.00110 money factor
53% residual
First month payment on delivery
$829 / month
This is a far cry from the deals elsewhere on the forum....what am I missing and where am I getting screwed?? What can I reasonably demand in the current market??
I had anticipated a target cap cost (car only) of about MSRP-10K and having the lease calculated using the MB financial numbers of (24 Month – Residual 58% of MSRP – .00075 Base Rate)
Thank you very much for any and all help.
Don
the main reason why the payment is high is because of the 53% residual. when i got my r350 in december, the residual was 61%. therefore the 8% diff in depreciation during the lease period is huge. with the price of gas, no one wants to get a SUV, thus dropping the value. not to make you feel bad, but my lease is 33 months, 12k, for $455/mo with 9% tax included, for an 08 R350 with P1, heated front seats, Ipod and 7th seat.. nothing down except 1st payment and the acquisition fee was rolled into my payment.
Where did you do your lease in Virginia?
Thx.
we got our r 350 for $638.00 a month-p2 package-ipod package-rear cam, etc..-no metallic paint fee-12,000 miles a month for 36 months
most dealerships will attempt to hide points in the back end-be prepared to buy elsewhere if you do not get the deal you want-shop multiple dealerships for deals
do your research find out what kind of inventory your dealership has-the bigger dealerships are often able to give better deals b/c they have a lower multiplier
skip the sales person and deal directly with the manager
good luck
R350 MSRP of 56170 + dest
33 months/15k miles
Net cap cost 50000
MF 0.00075
residual 53%
2500 down to include TTL and first payment (Virginia)
$714/month payment
What do you all think?
Thank you.
I'm not sure what this dealer is doing. They are clearly trying to take advantage of you. I live in Ann Arbor, MI. I recently went in shopping for a R350 or E350..ended up buying E-class. But for the R-class....they took $10,000 of MSRP literally before I even sat down to talk numbers. Once I sat down, they took $11,500 of MSRP. There is a $6000 REBATE from mercedes alone. this dealer is trying to sell you the car, at FULL MSRP...and only deducting from the rebate.
clearly they are trying to rip you off. Plz dont take it the wrong way, dont settle for anything less than 10k off msrp. Tho i think 11k is common these days on an R350.
If they insisit they can't go lower, just walk away, because this is bad deal. :mad:
Thanks!
MSRP about 53k
Price 47k
MF .00075
Res 56% for 10k/yr 33mo.
Monthly $585
Decent deal?
Also got offered $29,960 buy out price on my current 06 R350
MSRP 56k-ish
Price 49k-ish
Paid 25 payments of $515 each
18k miles
They have a $12k reduction on current buy-out (residual) prices. Call MB financial if you are in the same position as me having lease maturing in several months.
Don't know which is a better deal. I like the 08 for the auto folding mirror auto dimming mirror rearview camera and new 19" wheels and fog light etc.
They somehow did make it flimsy looking by removing the woodtrim on the center console facing the second row.
Did Aug 08 lease deals come out yet?
Comments anyone?
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The value leftover for my current R is abysmal definitely less than 29k
It's a great time to buy a used R now.