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Previous at another dealer was $275.00 w/ $1500.00 down
Looking at an offer of $25,750 after rebates, not including tax.
The cars affected are equipped with 17" steel wheels. Notification will go out on January 28th to affected owners. Some of the studs shear off and in 4 cases the wheels came off. It is noteworthy that there was considerable vibration noted for some time prior to the wheel separations as would be expected. Absent such vibrations and noises I would regard the risk as very low. It seems 2009-late 2010 fusions and milans are at risk. The fix may include new rear brake components for some reason. A walkaround with a lug wrench should ferret out any affected cars. The studs shear off sequentially so check all nuts. If any seem loose you may wish to check with your dealer before the late January notice.
Many of the lower trim models with 17" wheels have plastic covers which obscure the fact that the wheels are steel. Putting a magnet on the wheel (somewhere where the plastic cover doesn't interfere) will identify the steelies.
I have found these forums extremely helpful so many thanks to all who post here. I'm the proud new owner of a 2012 Ford Fusion Sport withthe 402A Package (includes BLIS, Moonroof, Reverse Sensing, Heated Seats, etc. with voice-activated navigation and a remote start for $26,525, $28,845 out the door. I can't wait until it arrives! But I'm wondering if you all think this was a good price or if I could have gotten it for a little less? I'm in the Washington, DC area if that matters. Thanks!
I'm looking at getting a silver 2012 Fusion SE. The one that I test drove has a rear spoiler and reverse sensing. The sticker price is $24,285. I was able to knock it down to $22,063.09. Is this a good deal? Every place that I've checks seems to suggest this, but I want other opinions/suggestions. I don't want to pay more than what I have to pay.
Also, what is the sun and sync package? I saw this on another one.
Thanks.
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Sun and sync is a Sunroof with the Ford Sync system.
A 2012 V6 SE is one of the cars I'm considering buying within the next month and I wondering if anyone has experience with negotiating the price when ordering a car from the factory. Can I expect to get 3-4% above invoice, or will they all play hard-nosed if they can't locate what I want? I'll likely be leasing but I'm assuming that shouldn't matter. TIA.
There was also a separate coupon rebate which bought my final price down lower.
I agree with you about no moonroof, it doesn't do anything for me but reduce precious headroom. In fact if I could have gotten the third trim line Mazda 6 ("Touring Plus") WITHOUT a moonroof, I likely would have purchased that car instead of the Fusion.
Mazda 6 and Fusion were designed together and are based on the same platform. The base Fusion SEL (third trim level up in the lineup) has Sync, leather seats, and Automatic Temp Control (plus some others), while the Mazda 6 Touring Plus (also 3rd trim level up in the lineup) has cloth seats, manual heat/cool, and a mandatory moon roof. It also has the blind spot warning system included, and AutoStick shifting, which I really would have liked. Unfortunately the only way to get AutoStick in the Ford was to either get a spoiler (boo!) or the larger engine.
The Ford requires you to purchase the backup camera (very pricey) just to get the blind spot warning, whereas the Mazda just includes it standard for Touring Plus. I know how to use mirrors and they are probably more reliable anyway, so that was a wash for me. Another advantage to the Mazda is amber rear turn signals for much better safety and visibility. I wish Ford would get on board with that for all their cars.
The SE doesn’t have heated mirrors and you can only get the leather steering wheel as part of the Appearance Package. The AP only comes with Charcoal Black interior with “Unique Seat Inserts and Door Panel Trim”. In this case, “unique” translates to HIDEOUS! =/ So the SE doesn’t sound like the best fit for you
The SEL has standard heated mirrors, leather-wrapped steering wheel and heated leather seats. It is available in Red Candy Metallic with Camel or Medium Light Stone interior (in addition to Charcoal Black). I think Medium Light Stone is a grayish-taupe color. The SEL also adds some nice extras for the additional $2k- Automatic Climate Control, Homelink remote, Power passenger seat, Bluetooth, Auto-Dim Rearview Mirror and even “puddle lamps” on the side mirrors (to illuminate puddles, I would guess) .and the aforementioned heated, leather seats.
The tough part will be finding an SEL in the color combo you want BUT without the 301A or 302A option package. I’ve seen very few (if any) SEL V6 models that only have the standard 300A package. The 301A adds the Moonroof and Sony audio system; 302A includes the 301A features plus BLIS (Blind Spot Information System), rearview camera, rain-sensing wipers and reverse sensing system. So the VAST majority of SEL models have the Moonroof.
To get a SEL with the 300A and V6 in Red Candy with Camel or M-L Stone, you probably would have to special order it. A rear spoiler and reverse sensing system are both standalone options you could add, if so desired.
I’ll toss out a few alternatives that seem to fit your desired specs and should be much easier to find in stock at a dealer-
2012 Hyundai Sonata SE 2.0T
2012 KIA Optima EX Turbo
(they are built on a common platform and share the same engine/transmission- in this case, a 274hp Turbocharged 2.0L 4-cylinder good for 0-60 in 6.4sec and 34mpg highway)
OR
2011 Hyundai Azera GLS – it’s actually classified as a large sedan and has the same exact interior volume as a Toyota Avalon (107cu ft). But it is built on the previous Sonata platform and is mid-sized in terms of exterior dimensions.
It has all the goodies you want standard- heated mirrors, premium cloth interior, leather-wrapped steering wheel AND a sweet 260hp 3.3L V6! A redesigned 2013 Azera is due mid-year and there wasn’t actually a 2012 model, so the 2011 models are still being sold as new and with DEEP Discounts! The 2011 Azera GLS stickers for $26,270 but currently TrueCar.com is showing the selling price at $19,868 currently- a 24% discount off MSRP!
All three of the models I mentioned have another awesome feature in common- 10-year/100k-mile Powertrain Warranty in addition to the 5-year/60k-mile Basic Warranty!!! All of them, in addition to the Ford Fusion, are also RECOMMENDED by the guys over at Consumer Reports! The Sonata Turbo, Optima Turbo and Fusion V6 FWD are also rated the highest in terms of Owner Satisfaction among family sedans by CR readers.
I test drove the '11 Sorento (turbo and regular) when shopping for a crossover for the wife a few months ago, and peppy as they may be, a 4 cylinder is not in the cards for me.
I had also considered the prospect of locating an '11 Azera very appealing (great minds think alike) but they are like hen's teeth in this area (NYC). There is only 1 that I could find online and its a Limited, that comes with a moon roof (~$32K). But, in that size car a moon roof may not be objectionable. BTW, I find the Fluidic Sculpture reDesign a bit over the top and imagine that it will result in compromised visibility. A 24% discount off MSRP is huge, but that is not being advertised around here. I may have to drive the 30 miles to look at the 1 Limited that I did find online and test the waters. I saw a 2010 at the gas station yesterday and I could see myself in one of those! A bit staid but practicable looking.
Thanks again for the detailed reply.
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We wanted to buy it outright, no financing, but learned we could save $750 if we financed and we could pay it off in 4 months and pay little interest and still get all other rebates.
We paid $23,000, taxes and everything included. Standard features- which are still pretty nifty. I got nervous, though, because Kelly Blue Book said a fair price was closer to $22,000. Did we goof? :confuse: :confuse:
Anyway, could you get your window sticker and list any possible options such as package 201a or floor mats, rear deck spoiler, or is it a V6. According to TrueCar in my area the best available deal is about $20,838 with the 201a package and that is before taxes and fees.
As I said earlier, I missed that under $15k deal (SE with SYNC) from San Leandro Ford, my deal from Sunnyvale Ford is about $1k higher.
Though those are unbelievable great deals, I have 2nd thought now, as the seat fabric is awful. Maybe I should have got SEL with leather. I used to prefer soft fabric over leather. But fabric used in SE is so hard and rough.
So we paid the $23,333.88 including taxes and fee and rebates and additional features besides the standard ones.. It is a 202A Equipment group ( sun and sync value package, power moon roof, sync voice activated systems, ECRR MIR).
The total before discounts was listed on the window as $26000.
We added an extended warranty for $1615 I have no idea if we should have gotten that but a friend did and has used it enough to be worth it.
. Options were listed as reverse sensing system $495 and platinum met tri-coat. $295. Equipment group savings were listed as $445.
Everything else was standard. So I am very confused. Was this a decent deal or not?
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As far as what the other poster could have gotten in So. Cal I don't have a clue. Like I said Dealerships might be clearing out their lots. I haven't been researching because I am not in the market. Was heavily researching prices back in the spring when I was deciding between a 2012 Limited Ford Edge, an ordered by the Dealer 2013, 2012 Explorer, and a Toyota Highlander Limited. Ended up buying a 2012 Highlander Limited AWD V6. I do like to follow car forums and do keep tabs on prices. I am waiting a couple of years at least before I take a serious look at the newly designed Fusion. Mine is a 2009 Sel V6 and has been a fantastic car.
We always match half of what they save and then they pay insurance, gas, etc after that from jobs etc. this is the third son and the sat to drive. The others had accidents in their first year of owning a car. One was hit from behind. Totally not his fault, hit at a 4-way stop and pushed into intersection. The other slid on black ice through a T intersection and over a curb. Really messed up underside of car. So a new car is not in the picture for this one unless he saves a TON of money.
As far as used I would look at what Consumer Reports has to say. They have a list of the most reliable used and least reliable used cars. I bought Impala's for both my Sons. My oldest is driving a 2004 that has over 140,000 on it and he got it when it had about 68,000 miles on it. He bought that one himself back in 2008. My Youngest Son is a College Sophomore and we got him a 2004 as well three years ago because I wanted him to have a good solid vehicle that I would feel confident it would get him home safely over any breaks his school had. I'm just saying that they are big cars and I feel better about newer drivers riding around in them.
All three of my Kids had accidents within their first year of getting their license. The older two totaled their vehicles mainly because they were high mileage. My youngest had a fender bender. It's scary sometimes being a parent.
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MSRP $25060 (per edmunds)
Invoice $23135 (from edmunds)
rebates $1750 (could've been another 1500 had I financed differently)
ttl/fees $2170 (including $299 service fee)
OTD price with 60mo, 0% financing = $23283. So I essentially got it for invoice - rebates with no service fee.
Very little haggling was required, I emailed the internet sales magangers of 4-5 different dealers. I set up appointments with the 3 lowest. Each said they'd beat the other if I'd come in and work a deal. I started at the lowest dealer. I told the internet salesperson that if they could lower the price some more I skip out on the other dealer appointments. They came down another 1% and I signed. I feel like I could have done a little better had I leverage them against each other further but I was running short on motivation (I had my wife and two young children with me). Also, in my area 2012 fusion inventory is drying up so I believe that handicapped my bargaining.
I bet that next week will be a great time to bargain on the fusions if you have some left in your area. Good luck and thanks to the others that have posted their experiences!
2012 Ford Fusion SE CPO
28,000 miles, 1-owner
$13,500 + includes everything except tax (which I will pay when I get my title)
I had the car inspected by a good mechanic in the area. They stated it the only issue was slight mis-alignment, which the dealer corrected and provided computer print-outs of before and after. So my questions/comments:
1) Does this seem like a good deal? I usually wait until the end of the month but I felt I couldn't pass this one up.
I purchased the PremiumCare with $100 deductible for $635, which lasts for 6 years/75K miles. He originally offered $870, which was at or slightly below Lombard's and Zeigler's (they had wi-fi in office so I was checking their prices in front of the finance guy lol) so $635 is definitely the lowest price I've ever seen.
2) I have a 30-day refund window, should I keep the ESP? I had my last car for 13 years and 155K miles and plan on doing the same with this one.
Not much buzz about the new Fusion on the boards. Wondering why?
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