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2008 Honda Accord Coupe and Sedan
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How in the world did you come up with that?
..around these parts - - - the expression is SWAG.........
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And here's mine...
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I said it before on this forum, I am very impressed with this Accord. It is quieter and more comfortable than my 06 Pilot and much nicer than the 05 Camry I just sold.
Not yet. Please send me email at VIETSI2002@yahoo.com to give me the dealer name. Thanks a lot.
It is truly amazing, beautiful! It looks so expensive, the tag said $24+, and that is not bad at all. I so want the sedan, for the 4 doors, but hey, We only live once right. I want the leather, and navigation. I am so entertaining getting the coupe this time. It is going to be a tough decision! I would almost get the red EX, but I want to get the navi, and leather, so I'll wait awhile, when the have a more plentiful stock. They need to include the red for the sedan!! and the belize blue pearl! I am getting pretty excited, but lease numbers are not hot right now. WOW!
Anything I need to know specifically to the Accord about the non-factory starters? Anyone have one? What type, costs, etc etc
Thanks!
Trying to cool down your car that's parked in the sun with the windows closed is a big waste also. To cool down a car that's been frying in the summer sun, you need to open all the windows and exhaust all the super-heated air first.
Which is why the remote window-roll-down feature is one of my favorite creature comforts of my Accord.
Wouldn't an engine block heater and an extension cord http://tinyurl.com/326ofn be best for parking at home or work?
You wrote "my wife can start it while she is inside the grocery store". Even in North Dakota, she'd have to be on an extended shopping spree for the engine to cool down enough for a restart to be of much concern.
The Accord achieved fuel economy ratings of 21 m.p.g. city and 31 m.p.g. highway in EPA tests. Those figures, and its combined rating of 24 m.p.g., put the Accord squarely in the middle of its competitive set for fuel economy.
I did a little looking at the Accord's competitors(excluding Hybrid's). These are all 4 cyl. automatics. 2008 models. Also, all but the Passat have less HP than the 190 in the Accord EX I4, in some cases, considerably less.
Nissan Altima 23/31 = 54
Honda Accord 21/31 = 52
Toyota Camry 21/31 = 52
Saturn Aura 22/30 = 52
Chevy Malibu 22/30 = 52
Kia Optima 21/31 = 52
Dodge Avenger 21/30 = 51
Chrys Sebring 21/30 = 51
Hyundai Sonata 21/30 = 51
Ford Fusion 20/29 = 49
Mazda6 21/28 = 49
Mitsu. Galant 20/27 = 47
VW Passat 19/28 = 47
Subaru Legacy 20/27 = 47
Sorry About my pathetic columns
I wouldn't exactly call that "squarely in the middle", but then, my check is not signed by the same people that sign Mr. Phelan's. OTOH, they're all so close, who really cares.
Footnote - I'm willing to give Subaru a break on their numbers given that you get AWD with the Legacy. Also, I had never really looked at the Legacy, but I think it looks quite nice.
It just shows that some people don't do their homework when writing articles for print.
An extension cord would work for home in the mornings, but that is the only time basically.
Letting your car sit at the mall for the afternoon in 10below weather will cause to the car to be a little cold. Maybe the engine itself will be ok in that situation, but my wife wouldn't be.
The remote start is not only a necessity, but also a luxury. I want my wife to have the luxury of jumping inside a warm car every morning and every time she gets back in at night.
Perhaps they could have you do it from 1000 ft and leave it open as long as you want it to, but the problem is, what would reduce the chance of someone, uninvited, getting in car?
I'm also wary of remote starts as it increases the chance of a running car in a closed garage. It could be kids doing it, or people by mistake. Besides, doesn't it also defeat the purpose of having immobilizer? Or does it have additional safety built-in? (in that, someone manages to get in but can't drive off).
But I don’t expect these so called auto reviewers to know all that. Most of their points tend to be opinion, and many times even that is flawed. The least I expect them to know is that EPA ratings couldn’t care less about engine’s power rating either. All cars in EPA’s world are equal when it comes to performance. But it is transmission logic that makes the difference and a big reason for many people not meeting their rated EPA fuel economy, even the new rating which seems to be the case with my GF’s new RAV4.
Another issue is that the new EPA rating has actually brought the numbers closer (higher mileage cars are now closer to lower mileage cars).
Economically is the navigation and bluetooth worth the extra dollars?
NYT sedan
NYT coupe
That's commendable...but the experts warn that an engine should not idle for more than a minute without driving on.
Probably the only thing I've read in the NYT that seems believeable.
Thanks for the link.
So, for ten years and almost 183K miles, typical idling has been for about 10-15 seconds, followed by low speed driving and it is warm within a quarter mile. It takes a little more in winter but not much. However, if you've to wipe off ice, then it is a whole another issue.
To achieve this goal, she will need to have two assistants with torches to keep her warm as she walks outside between the mall stores and the parking lot to the car in winter.
On 10-20 degree days, I crank my car, put on my belt, adjust the radio, and away I go. 15 seconds of idling or so tops. The best way to warm a cold engine is to drive moderately/lightly (don't rev more than halfway to redline).
And more efficiently. Even if you're going 20 MPH, that beats the mileage you'd get idling (0MPG).
Over a typical tank, I generally cover about 360 miles and refueling takes about 14 gallons after ten hours worth of driving (using numbers from my TL since I get to see my average speed and total time from the trip computer). With 50-50 city/hwy split, that amounts to 180 miles at 65-70 mph (let us assume 67.5 mph average speed), and the remaining 180 miles at 35 mph (although it ranges from 30 to 45 mph) and ignoring stops. So, 160 minutes on highway plus 310 minutes on city streets implies about 130 minutes being spent idling. For that matter, let us even ignore another 10 minutes to round the numbers off. We’re looking at 2 hours worth of idling.
At 20 miles lost per hour (idling), this implies that simply driving would have taken those 14 gallons further, to 400 miles. The car’s mileage would have been almost 2 mpg better at 28.6 mpg. In other words, those two hours spent idling equate to 10% loss in my observed fuel economy!
From the internet...
Myth #1: "The engine should be warmed up for long periods prior to driving."
Reality: Idling is not an effective way to warm up your engine, even in cold weather. The best way to do this is to drive the vehicle. With today's modern engines, you need no more than 30 seconds of idling on winter days before starting to drive.
Myth #2: "Idling is good for the engine."
Reality: Excessive idling can actually damage engine components, including cylinders, spark plugs, and the exhaust system.
Myth #3: "Shutting off and restarting the vehicle when it's stopped is bad for the engine and uses more gasoline than if you leave it running."
Reality: Frequent restarting has little impact on engine components. Component wear caused by restarting the engine is estimated to add $10 per year to the cost of driving, money that will likely be recovered several times over in fuel savings from reduced idling.
Idling Facts:
Fact #1: Idling wastes fuel and money. Every 10 minutes of idling costs you at least 1/10 of a liter of wasted fuel. Keep in mind that every liter of gasoline produces 5.4 pounds of carbon dioxide.
Fact #2: Idling contributes to global warming. Vehicle idling can have a powerful effect on the outdoor air quality at the local and community level.
Fact #3: Diesel and gasoline exhausts contain more than 40 hazardous pollutants. Idling your vehicle with the air conditioner on can increase emissions by 13 percent.
It's not unnecessary---it's personal preference. When you live in the hot heat, I like to blow the a/c for 15 minutes before I get in. Sure I pay for more gas, but to me it's worth it.
Honda sells remote starters themselves, I'm sure that they have engineered the Accord to function well with them meaning the engine won't be damaged from "overidling". Plus, I always use fully synthetic oil so I'm sure that the lubrication level is where it needs to be.
Python sells a remote start that works as far as one mile away. So that should meet the 2,000' requirement you were looking for.
http://www.pythoncarsecurity.com/products/950.html
You should be able to get it installed at circuit city and they have the hardware necessary to get around the Immobilizer. It's not a big deal.
No,it's a fact:
http://www.collegehillshonda.com/honda_accord_4dr_accessories/2008_accord_electr- onics.htm
Running the A/C on a hot day into a hot car isn't going to be nearly as effective as when the car is actually moving