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Don't donkeys bite?
For $2500 you have a different set of rules, and competition.
The Tata Nano could make it here for one. I'd feel safer in a Nano than a real golf cart, though they've really got some strong similarities.
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after looking at some of the video's, she is probably too young, anyway.
For those not in the know...
I wonder how it would hold up in a crash with a donkey? I once saw a Chevette that had hit a deer- wasn't pretty! Donkeys are bigger/heavier than deer...
I think they'll sell every one they can build just in India alone...and maybe China. It's obviously a car for "emerging markets" (Third World countries that are quickly becoming industrialized). Could you imagine merging into a U.S. highway with a 35hp 2-cylinder engine?
It will be very interesting if Tata brings this one to the U.S. A new car for $5000? I wonder what the warranty will be like.
The CEO of Tata called the U.S. market "unforgiving" and it is clear he is still not totally sold on bringing the thing here at all.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Dunno about biting, but they have a pretty mean kick, so that should discourage tailgaters. Only problem is, they tend to rise up when they kick, which could result in the "driver" being thrown, unless belted in/on properly.
If you suffer a side impact while riding a donkey your leg is the crumple zone, though.
Back in college I had a 48hp Chevy Sprint so I know what it's like driving a slow car. Plan ahead, basically, for everything.
It was actually not awful around town, though, keeping up with the flow fairly well (I had a manual, the autos were probably a lot slower).
Depends on the weight, I suppose. Thing is, that car was, what 1800 lbs? To meet today's safety standards a similar car would weigh 2500 lbs and then the engine would not be enough.
On a separate note, the Ford Fiesta looks very promising! It shares a platform and many components with the Mazda2, which I'd love to see offered here, too.
I have an old Consumer Guide from 1985 that tested a Chevy Sprint. They didn't do their own 0-60 testing, but in the text it mentioned that GM estimated it could do 0-60 in about 12 seconds with the stick shift. If you didn't get air conditioning.
Seriously, that's probably more than adequate for most driving. Heck, my two '79 New Yorkers, '76 LeMans, and '85 Silverado all take around 11-12 seconds to hit 60, and even so, it's not that often that I have to run them flat-out to get them to do what I need them to. And even merging onto highways, often it's pointless to run them flat-out, because then I'd be entering the highway faster than the flow of traffic, and only have to slow down.
I dropped her off at the air port one time and drove it home for her. It didn't feel slow at all, but again that was an 1800 lb car.
Hers was probably a later model, I think it had 62hp.
I looked at those in 1991, but ended up in an Escort GT with 127hp. I guess I was tired of not being able to go up hills with the A/C on.
I recall looking at the price, and the HF was $300 cheaper than the LX or DX, IIRC, but those made 92hp. Then I thought...$30 per horse is a bargain. Didn't buy either, but I do remember shopping for them.
I don't think the problem today is a lack of horsepower, when even the cheapest cars break 100hp. It's weight. It's scary how many fairly basic cars weigh over 3000 lbs.
It is, a while back we timed ourselves in normal traffic. Typical 0-40mph times was between 12-15 seconds for a line of traffic coming off a stop light.
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2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Yes... both!
So, while it won't knock your socks off, it's still probably more than adequate for most needs. The only thing I'd worry about is highway merging. The 12-13 second 0-60 time doesn't scare me so much, but the quarter mile time does, and implies to me that the car is starting to get pushed to its limit after 60. For comparison, Consumer Reports tested a 1968 Dodge Dart with a 225 slant six (I remember this only because I used to own a similar 1969, so I know how it performed) and while it took them 14 seconds to get from 0-60, the quarter mile came in at 19 seconds at 72 mph. So, to get from 60 to 72 mph, it only took that car 5 seconds, while it's taking the Smart more like 6-7 seconds to get from 60 to 70.5 mph.
And FWIW, that Dart seemed perfectly capable at the time, although I'm sure if I had it to drive today, it wouldn't be nearly as good as I remember!
I also wonder then, how the Smart would do in highway passing? Such as, if you're cruising along at 65-70 and want to pass, but traffic in the passing lane is rolling past at a much faster clip. Would the Smart have the guts to pass safely?
Where it would feel slow would be passing on the highway, 50-70 maybe, though hopefully the owner isn't driving often on those kinds of roads.
maybe i have seen 4 or 5, ever.
last weekend i saw one for sale up in litchfield.
it was sitting in the yard with grass growing around it, like many other cars that have been waiting for a buyer for a while.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
I can't help but think - why would you get a Smart when leftover 08 Miatas have a $5000 incentive tied to them right now? I doubt I paid significantly more than that Smart owner did.
The Smart makes a great city car- tiny, easy to park in tight spaces, adequate power for in-town driving. But if you routinely drive on highways/interstates or any long distances, the Nissan Versa would be cheaper to buy, a lot faster and more comfortable and gets 34mpg highway.
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2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
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2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Kia No.3
Today I found out the No.3 will come with a standard 6-speed manual tranny. This little subcompact would be a good one to make a return to the manual transmission with. I'd get the colors pictured on this No.3, too.
There's only one small problem, carnuts. The No.3's not coming to the U.S.
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Sure beats the Korean-made Aveo5.
It should get 46mpg or so, converting a similar sized TDI engine in another KIA/Hyundai in the U.K., to U.S. gallons.
Doesn't look too bad, all things considered.
According to the September issue of Motor Trend magazine the 2010 Yaris will gain traction/electronic stability control as standard equipment. This is great, if it's true. I see nothing about this "gain" anywhere online with what little research I've done. Can anyone in the know out there confirm this? At times I doubt MT is really on the beam, so to speak. I do know that upper level versions of Nissan's '10 Versa and Sentra get stab/esc. I'm surprised Toyota didn't include these safety features in the first place with the Yaris. :confuse:
Please inform. I'd really appreciate it.
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My biggest concern about something like that would not be so much how it does when hitting something, but how it does when it GETS hit. Running a Yaris at 40 mph into the rear-end of a stopped Suburban does NOT yield the same result as doing it the other way around.
Standard ESC is going to be mandated in a very short time (2 years) anyway, so Toyota loses little by making it standard earlier, and gains the nice PR of it.
For '09 the Yaris got standard ABS and 6 airbags, so with the standard ESC for '10 it will be properly equipped for all the safety shoppers. Problem is it is still built in Japan and with the exchange rate at 95 yen to the dollar, we probably won't see too many in the States.
It would be nice to see Honda offer a proper subcompact again - the Fit is on the large side for that segment. I hope the CRZ is still in the works. And bring on the Polo, Fiesta, and Fiat 500! :-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Of course the sneakers would go right under the Suburban and escape unscathed.
We should at least stick to the same price class, and look at how it fares compared to an Aveo or Versa, the two closest priced cars it would compete with.
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2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Hmm...maybe Toyota can take over that Goldwing production line Honda just closed down :P
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I would still love to see Honda take the competition more seriously with the Fit.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
So far, they can get away with it because most of the competition don't take themselves seriously. Toyota doesn't help by overpricing their cars either, but people are willing to pay it, it seems, even for the Yaris and Fit.
Besides, NO ONE takes GM and the Aveo/Cobalt seriously...I don't even think GM does yet. They've always had trouble taking that segment seriously, and while the Cruze might have fixed that a bit, it's been postponed indefinitely. While Focus, Elantra and Sentra (not even mentioning Civic and Corolla) walk all over the Cobalt. Aveo actually does a bit better competition wise than Cobalt (Doesn't stand up too bad with Accent and Versa, and tends to rate better than Yaris) does but it's still not there yet, and Fiesta is going to rip it to shreds next year.
Sales could be rosier for Honda though.
"Although almost all of American Honda Motor Co. Inc.'s models made buyers eligible for cash-for-clunkers rebates, Honda still couldn't pull out of its recent sales doldrums, recording July sales down 17.3 percent compared with last year."
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