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Ford Explorer Maintenance and Repair

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  • rockyprockyp Member Posts: 6
    E.D.
    Thanks for the help. The engine is a 4.0L SOHC V6 engine with a 5R55e transmission. I keep up all of my maintenance (got 80K out of the Wranglers) and being at 100K I just had the transmission fluid and the differential changed. The Ford dealership is telling me that the transmission is not going into secopnd gear and that they can replace the valve in the gear for $875, but at 100K they recommended doing an entire rebuild for $2950. I am going to get a second opinion (AAMCO etc.) if I can drive it off of the lot. Any advice would be appreciated.

    Thanks,

    RockyP
    Stockbridge,GA
  • puzzleddadpuzzleddad Member Posts: 3
    We are in Middle Tennessee. We wanted a low mileage 2003 Black XLT with leather and no sunroof (i.e., which ruled out Eddie Bauer's). After looking for a few days, the best macth we could find was at a CarMax in Chicago. $150 and two days later we had the car ...unfortunately it has this rear axle/differential problem.
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    I can't do anything else for you, it sounds like it's about gone. Unfortunately those tranny don't last a long time, probably at the end of it's rope. Check around to get the best price for the best service, get quotes from reputable shops.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. ISF
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    puzzleddad, You are right, as far as the rear axle is concerned, it IS a LEMON. They have constant problems with these rear axles since they came out with the new design in 2002. They are correctable, because you can always take it out and replace it, but it's going to cost you a lot of money in the long run. It would be about $2000 to replace the rear axle assembly, if it is repairable, maybe half that, but that is money that you shouldn't even have to be spending. I own a 1997 V8 and a 2001 V8, both wonderful vehicles, but I will NOT own an Explorer newer than 2001, because of all the expensive problems they have, bad rear axles, bad transmissions, and if you have the 6 cylinder engine, trouble with those too (timing chains). Please go to the top of the page and use the SEARCH BUTTON to look for topics such as rear axles, transmissions, timing chains, etc, it will enlighten you greatly. It's your money, but I would stay away from that Explorer. At least start off with one that has no problems to begin with, then at least your son can enjoy it for a while, but set repair money aside for the future, you will need it. If you really want to get it, the BEST thing to do is get a good maintenance agreement contract on it that will cover all the major repairs, you will need it.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. ISF
  • matthattan1587matthattan1587 Member Posts: 53
    Oh I understand...I am not sure if all Eddie Bauer's have sunroofs, mine was $850 add on option. It might be standard on the 2003 model. I can look around at places for the model you are looking for...maybe something will come up?
  • matthattan1587matthattan1587 Member Posts: 53
    Does anyone know the measurements of the Trailor Hitch on the back of 2006 Eddie Bauer Explorer...cant measure as car is in shop?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,250
    what measurement are you looking for? tow bar size?
    towing package is 2 inches, standard is 1.25 i think.
    for that, the year doesn't matter. i have an '02.
    if you need height or anything else, i have to wait for my kid to bring it back. i'll hear the stereo before i see it.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    Did you understand the difference between the fluid and filter CHANGE verses the fluid FLUSH and filter? AT the dealer, the normal service is to Change or Drain the fluid, but the problem with that is some of the old fluid remains in the transmission. The FLUSH actually drains the fluid AND runs clean fluid through the transmission to FLUSH out any remaining old fluid. The FLUSH is much better than the drain and refill. You mentioned it was expensive, but I do mine myself, it cost $10 for the filter and 20 Quarts of MERCON V at about $3.50 per quart, Tax $5.60, so it costs me about $90 to do it myself, and well worth it. I can't say that it will cure your problem, but it IS very good preventive maintenance. Your hard 1-2 shift could also be caused by the control circuits, computer, wiring, solenoids, sticking accumulor piston, etc. If the dealer can't find any codes or any obvious problem that may cause this, try an additive before you go tearing into the transmission or valve body. I only recommend one additive to use, the only one that I have found that actually works, it's called LUCAS Transmission Stop Leak, in a 24 oz white plastic bottle, about $9. It can be found in most Auto Parts Stores. If you don't see it, go to their website, just Google Lucas to find it. Pour a bottle of that in (allow an hour for it to drain in, use a long neck funnel) and give it a week to see if it makes much difference. I can't promise, but chances are good that it will help.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. In Sunny Florida
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Seems like flushes too often result in a tranny failure, especially if they weren't part of a regular maintenance schedule. Coincidence?

    Here's one recent thread about it:

    steve_, "Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute: Problems & Solutions" #3411, 30 Jun 2006 9:09 pm
  • gasburner1gasburner1 Member Posts: 10
    ED,
    Yes I understand what you ment by trans flush. In fact of the three dealers in my area, two only do the flush. The last trans fluid change I had done was using the "flush" method. The problem is the dealers just want to do the flush only, and leave the same filter in place, and it is a big "extra" to get the filter changed. I'm sure changing the trans fluid myself would be cheaper, but I certainly don't have the time to do it. Thanks for the info. I'll see what the dealer comes back with after he looks it over.
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    I should perhaps clarify exactly what a CORRECT transmission flush is, as there seems to be a lot of misconceptions about it, and people are offering to do it in different ways.

    1. If the transmission is flushed correctly it will not harm the transmission. I have personally done transmission flushes on many mid to high milage vehicles, both domestic and foreign and NEVER had any problem.

    2. NO solvent or foreign fluid or chemical should be used to flush the transmission, only new fluid as specified by the manufacturer is added to the transmission.

    3. Flushing the transmission without changing the filter is not recommended. Some transmissions have a screen instead of a filter, and the manufacturer recommends not changing it, such as a 2002 Nissan Altima. In such cases, you can leave the pan and screen in place, drain the transmission fluid by removing the drain plug, replace drain plug, then flush and fill the transmission. If your vehicle does NOT have a FILLER TUBE and DIPSTICK, it is recommended for a shop to do this proceedure, to be sure the correct amount of fluid is replaced in your vehicle. For vehicles that have filters and no drain plug on the transmission pan, the transmission pan should be dropped, fluid drained, new filter installed, transmission pan and gasket replaced, then fluid is added, flushed, then topped off. Normally about 6 to 8 quarts of fluid is run through the transmission to flush the old fluid out of the transmission. The color of the fluid is observed as the fluid exits the transmission, usually through a clear hose so that the color may be observed. The fluid is dark at first, and then turns a clear brighter red as the old fluid is purged out and the new fluid flows through the transmission torque converter, pump, valve body, and various hydraulic passages, accumulators, clutches and lubrication passages. The gear selector is moved to the various positions during the flushing process to insure that the fluid is flushed through all the transmission components and passages.

    4. A special Flushing Machine is not required to flush the transmission, but may be used. The transmission has a pump inside of it that will pump the fluid through the transmission and out of the transmission. This is usually done by disconnecting the transmission fluid line from the transmission fluid cooler, located in front of the radiator, and connecting a clear hose from the cooler line to a large drain pan. This is particularly easy to reach on an explorer, as the lines pass under the radiator. The engine is run for short periods of time, and new fluid is added to the filler tube as the old fluid is pumped out into the drain pan. An assistant starts and stops the engine, and moves the gear selector during the flushing operation. For safety, the emergency brake is applied, foot brake applied, wheels chocked, and it is better to have the drive wheels off the ground. Once Transmission fluid flushes clean and clear, stop engine, reconnect transmission cooler lines, fill with fluid, start engine, move selector lever, top off fuid level to correct level on the dipstick.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. ISF
  • txcars56txcars56 Member Posts: 1
    I have a '93 Explorer Sport 4.0 v6 with 184,000 miles. The engine has run great till now. Starts and runs fine, but increasingly over the past few weeks will "cut out" for a split second and then continue running fine. This morning it stalled (the very first time it has done this) at a light, but I restarted and resumed driving. It feels like it's ignition and not fuel related, but I don't want to jump to conclusions. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
  • realbillrealbill Member Posts: 4
    I HAVE A LOUD OOOOOOO NOISE COMING FROM MY ENGINE I HAVE BEEN TOLD ITS FROM MY INTAKE I ALSO HAVE NO POWER GOING UP HILL THIS IS DOMINATE WHEN IT GETS HOT CAN YOU PLEASE HELP I WAS TOLD TO CHANGE GASGETS TO ALL HOSES ALL ARE EXPENSIVE I HOPE SOMEONE CAN HELP ME SOON I AM AFRAID TO DRIVE IT AS IT IS GETTING WORSE. THANKS KAY
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    GOSH! TURN OFF THE CAPS, YOU SOUND SOOOOOOOOO LOUD!
    There, that's better.
    Now give us more information about your vehicle and this noise. I assume it is a Ford Explorer, What year? What Engine? Tell us more what it sounds like? When is it louder? When is it softer? Softer at Idle? Louder when you give it the gas? How about at road speed? Describe the sound, moaning, whistling, rattling, clanking, clicking, grinding, roaring, etc. How does the sound change and when does it change? Be as descriptive and colorful as you can. We got the LOUD part already.
  • 07denalitx07denalitx Member Posts: 4
    Sorry about the caps. Yes its a Ford Explorer,1997, 4.0 engine. the noise sounds whooooo. This begins when the car heats up and continues at road speeds from stop to 60 mphs. gets softer sometimes at giving car gas. The car sometimes looses some power at going up a hill , this problem has just started. This happins with air off or on. I had a sensor replaced and they had to take off dash board to do it and now air only works on max. same with heater just paid 250 dollars and this all started shortly after that. like I said I have been told air problem along with intake system I'm afraid they see female and know I know nothing. (Which I don't ) Please help asap. Thanks, Kay
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    You or a friend will have to get their hands dirty to find the problem or take it to a mechanic you can trust. It sounds like the sound may come from the engine air intake system. Feel for vibrations on the air cleaner box, on the air intake tube, and on the engine at the throttle body. Try unsnapping the cover off the air cleaner box and lifting the cover up some, see if you hear the sound coming out of the tube going to the engine. If you do, I would pull the air intake tube off and investigate it, check the mass air flow sensor at the air cleaner end and check the throttle body(the part at the engine where the tube connects onto). If you don't hear the sound coming from the engine air intake, you will have to listen carefully elsewhere and try to find the source of the sound. I don't know what else to say without being there.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. ISF
  • johel77johel77 Member Posts: 3
    I just changed the battery on my Explorer 98. Now I can't start it. All I get is a click and the Theft light blinks on the dash. I don't have the owners manual nor the code. Please help
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    Is this a NEW battery you put in? Are the connections good and tight. Are you sure that the battery is charged? What happens when you turn on your headlights? Are they as bright as normal? Leave headlights on, watch your dome light, turn on the key and turn on the AC and wipers, does the dome light dim? How about when you try to start the engine, do the headlights or dome light dim?
    How fast does the Theft light blink? I think about once every 10 seconds or so is normal.
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    To Steve and Tidester and Mr Shiftright.
    I firmly stand by my post #5207. The best thing you can do for a transmission is give it a PROPER flush every 30K. I outlined a PROPER flush in my post, but I think that many of the flushes that these people get are done improperly. If you can't trust the people working on your car, you have to watch every move they make. If you can't be sure that they are doing it right, take it somewhere else. Take Post #5207 with you and show it to them, if they won't do it like that, then go somewhere else that will. They should make that Post #5207 a Sticky on here. If they do it right, then you won't have any trouble with your transmission, due to the flush. Please don't confuse a good flush with a bad transmission! If a tranny has a problem or is junk, it will still be junk after you flush it. Flushing is not magic, it won't fix anything, it's just good preventative maintenance. Remember, there are TWO important things in general to make an automatic transmission last, #1 Keep it COOL, and #2 Keep it CLEAN!
    All transmissions are NOT created equal, and some won't last long because they are poorly designed. The Automatic Transmission in the 6 cylinder Explorer is poorly designed, as is the Automatic Transmission in the Ford Escape. The Ford automatic transmission with the good reliability ratings are the ones that have been around for a while and have been race proven, like the AOD, and then the AODE, and now the A470RW. The A4R70W is the same as the AODE except it has the Wide Ratio Gears, hence the W.
    I worked at a Chevrolet Dealer in the 1970's, also worked at a Chrysler Dealer in the 70's, doing everything including engines and automatic transmissions. I retired from that work, but built some GM, FORD, and Mopar trannys on 80's and 90's models of my own, and don't plan on doing any more.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. In Sunny Florida
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    You (and anyone else interested) should bookmark that post so you can refer to it quickly - I did! :)

    tidester, host
  • johel77johel77 Member Posts: 3
    Yes, New battery. Fully charged. I think the problem started when I left my car parked for long time and battery died when car was locked and armed. So in order to change the battery I opened the car with the key not the remote. So now I can't get it to start, when I turn the key all I get is a Theft light that blinks about every 2 seconds.
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    I'll try to help, but I need enough information to help you. You did not answer the questions about if the headlights and dome light come on. I need to determine if you have good electrical power in the electrical system or if the security system has you locked out. So please mention if the headlights and other electrical accessories work normally of not. I am not absolutely certain how the Ford Security system works, but I know that the GM security system locks out the vehicle by the computer shutting off the fuel injectors. You can crank the engine, but the engine won't run. I believe Ford may work similar to that, but your engine won't crank over at all, I believe you said it clicked, which leads me to think it may be an electrical power problem, not a security lock out issue.
    I checked the operation of my THEFT light, to refresh my memory of how it works. When the car is off and parked, the Theft lights blinks about every 2 or 3 seconds. when you turn on the key, it goes off, and stays off when you start the engine. That is normal operation. Your Theft light may be working normally, which is further leading me to think that you have an electrical power problem, possibly a bad wiring connection, bad starter soleniod, or bad starter. I could go on and on about ways to check it, checking the voltage at the starter, checking for voltage drop, checking amp draw, etc, but please give the basic information first. Are the headlights and other electrical accessories working normally of not?
    Good Luck,
    E.D. In Sunny Florida
  • elizabethgelizabethg Member Posts: 3
    :confuse: I have a 95 Ford Exp. that sometimes starts but sometimes wont. Has a new battery. When it wont start, normally pouring a shot glass of gas directly into the intake will make it start. Its at the mechanics now, but of course, it has been starting up for them like a champ! I read somewhere here about a VZV valve, which i will tell Mr Mechanic about, he just says if its starting for him, i should take it home and call him when it craps out on me again, but I do not want to get stranded someplace! Help!
  • 98explorer98explorer Member Posts: 8
    i have a 98 explorer eddie bauer that is increasingly hard to start, sometimes(usually) it starts right up, but occasionally it takes a few tries usually after we've been driving at slow speeds through town with the air on, but this morning it will not start, we tried the fuel reset switch and think maybe it has to do with the coil pack???
    please help, need any kind of advice, kindda on our own on this!! :cry:
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    Ford Exp sometimes starts/sometimes doesnt by elizabethg
    elizabethg:
    You failed to say what engine you have? What engine do you have? These intermitent problems can be very hard to diagnose, because when the car is starting and running ok, you simply cant find the problem. The mechanic can poke around and check a lot of things that "might" be the problem, but that takes WAY too much time when you are paying a mechanic big bucks by the hour. The new vehicles since 1996 have the new OBDII computer systems and are more complex than the older cars and require more skill to diagnose. This ain't your fathers car! A good mechanic uses good diagnostic skills to locate and solve problems, and of course, some problems can be hard to find. When they can't find the problem right away, and have no idea what it is, they will usually back off, because they know they can't charge you an enornmous sum of money just for them to tinker around with it, in hopes that he might stumble upon the source of the problem, OR NOT! The only solution is Good Diagnotics, you have to take it somewhere to a knowledgable mechanic with a well equipped shop. Is is normal to charge a diagnostic fee, which is fair, nobody should work for free, but tell them up front that you have an intermittent problem and you can't afford to throw money at it, and if they can't fix the problem or at least diagnose correctly what is actually wrong with it, then you are not paying.
    The exact nature of your problem must be that the engine cranks over normally, but sometimes the engine doesn't start, is that right? If that is true, then the battery and starting system has nothing to do with the problem. If that assumption is correct so far then the mostly likely causes are fuel problems, ignition problems, IAC (Idle Air Contol valve), then computer system & sensor problems like Crankshaft Position Sensor, Throttle Position Sensor, Mass Airflow Sensor, IAT Sensor, MAP Sensor, or electrical wiring problems, leaking intake gaskets or seals, or possibly internal engine problems. I could go on, but I can only do so much over the internet. You should take the car to a good shop that has good expertise and good diagnostic equipment. A good way to find out is to call the shops on the phone, tell them what you problem is and ask they have a particular mechanic who is good at this sort of thing and what kind of testing equipment do they have? Do they have "Modern" equipment? "High Tech" equipment. They will all generally say that they have the best stuff, but pick at them and and try to pin them down, ask what KIND of equipment do they have, how NEW is it?
    Good Luck elizabethg.
    E.D. ISF

    98 explorer doesn't start sometimes by 98explorer
    98explorer:
    You also failed to say what engine you have? What engine do you have? What I said to elizabethg applies to you too, so ditto my messege to her to you also.
    Good Luck 98explorer
    E.D. ISF
  • elizabethgelizabethg Member Posts: 3
    thank you for the feed back. my mechanic pretty much said the same thing you did. he thinks its the fuel pump going bad on me, and he could replace it, but it would only be a guess, and thats a pretty expensive guess. Its a V6, btw. ;) Today I kinda decided I'd take it to the dealer and let them put it on their diagnostic thing...I did run it over to Pep Boys this afternoon because they have 1 of those diagnostic things, but they said if my car isnt acting up, their computer wont read that theres a problem. This is the lovely hell Im in, cuz I cant take my car on vacation til i get this resolved. *sigh*
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    Could a rental car be the answer for the vacation?
  • bopilotbopilot Member Posts: 8
    E.D.

    I have read most all your AConditioner threads and have one important question. I recently installed a rebuilt AC compressor on my 1998 Ford Explorer and replaced all appropriate parts as well as flushed. Nothing has been run as of yet but when I took it to a friend mechanic to evacuate and charge he asked if I had primed the compressor with oil or if it was already primed from the supplier. Well, I did not prime nor do I know if the supplier did and cannot find out from him for another week or so. The question is, can I charge oil via a charged oil can into the system upon immediately turning engine and AC on without risk of damage or do I need to take the lines off the compressor, blow some oil into the back end, and hand twist the compressor to move some oil inside it before allowing it to be run by the engine for complete oil and freon charge?
    Thanks, Steve G.
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    Steve G:
    Let's review the procedures and the order that they should be done in. Refer back to my post #5116, I think that post had most of the information that pertains to your question.
    You said "replaced all appropriate parts as well as flushed", then you stated that "if I had primed the compressor with oil or if it was already primed from the supplier?". I sounds like you may have been confused on the procedure, because it sounds like you have assembled all the parts together and NOT added the oil. Is that correct? If so, then re read part of the text of my former messege post below.

    "When you are ready to start the project, have all the new parts and tools ready. Buy the compressor with NO oil in it, shipped DRY, so that you can add your own oil of the proper type. Have the proper AC oil, 9 ounces of "Double End Capped" PAG 100 oil. Have the old refrigerant recovered by a AC shop, they would probably do this for free, since they get to keep the refrigerant. It is against the law to intentionally discharge refrigerant into the air. Remove the Belt, Remove the compressor, Remove the orifice tube, and Remove the Accumulator. Since the system is now open, you have the opportunity to do an optional step, to flush the system(highly recommended), you could flush out the condenser, the evaporator and the hoses at this point if you would like. This would help to ensure a clean system and remove the old oil, which would help to ensure a long life for the new compressor. The cleanliness of the system is the most important factor for compressor life. Use new o-rings on all the connections. If you flushed out the system, you will now need to put in a full charge of oil, 9 ounces of "Double End Capped" PAG 100 oil. Put 4 ounces in the compressor, 2 ounces in the evaporator, 1 ounce in the condenser, and 2 ounces in the accummulator. Next install the compressor, orifice tube and the accumulator. Rotate the center hub of the compressor at least 10 times to clear oil from the valves. Then connect the gauges and vaccuum pump and pull a deep vaccuum(29" or more) on the system for an hour. Close the valves on the gauges and turn off the vaccuum pump, vacuum on the system should hold, watch it for at least 15 minutes to be sure the vaccuum doesn't creep up. If you loose vaccuum, look for a leak, check your connections, turn the compressor shaft to be sure the compressor shaft seal seals. Put the Vent Temperature Thermometer into the dash outlet vent of the vehicle. After evacuating and the vaccuum holds, ENGINE OFF, close both valves on gauges, connect refrigerant can to the gauges charging hose, purge the yellow charging hose of air, slowly open low side valve on gauges to slowly charge refrigerant into the vaccuum, holding can upside down, using the can tap valve to control the flow of refrigerant. Start engine, charge in until can is empty."

    You will notice in the text that it says to flush the system FIRST, THEN install and connect the new parts. In your particular case, You said you flushed the system, which means that you flushed the old parts, which means you flushed out ALL the oil out of the system. Is that correct? When you replaced the compressor and "appropriate parts", I assume you at least also replaced the accumulator and the orifice tube. The text in my former post says AFTER the parts are flushed clean, then ADD the new oil in the approriate quantitiies to each of the parts as follows "Put 4 ounces in the compressor, 2 ounces in the evaporator, 1 ounce in the condenser, and 2 ounces in the accummulator" You do this while the system is still open. Then you next install and connect the new parts with the oil in each of the new parts. So when the system is closed it then contains the FULL charge of oil. Then you simply evacuate the air from the system, the oil remains in the system, then if the vaccuum holds like it should, you can charge the system. In your case you do not know if the compressor had oil or not. This is very critical because you do not want to overcharge the system with oil. You should have ascertained wether it had oil in it or not when you purchased it, VERY important. It is important that you put the correct amount of oil in the system when you CLOSE the system, that way you are SURE of how much OIL is in the system. Right now you don't know. You will either have to find out from who you bought the compressor from, or pull the compressor off and drain it to be sure it has no oil, then refill it and the rest of the system with the proper amount of oil. Have you put any oil in any of the components? It is always better to fill all the components with oil before you close the system, than charging in oil later when charging, because you don't want to start off with the compressor running dry. The important part is that you have a full 9 ounce charge of the correct refrigerant oil evenly distributed in the system.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. ISF
  • 98explorer98explorer Member Posts: 8
    the engine is a 4.0 6 cylinder we replaced the battery and it seems to try to start but won't. thamks so much for any advice! :confuse:
  • bopilotbopilot Member Posts: 8
    Thanks for the quick response. Must have missed the reference so after reviewing your copy I see what needs to be done. Nothing has been run so and a new accumulator, orfice tube, and interconeect hose from accumulator to condensor have been installed. Yes, the system that was left was flushed. Per your instructions I am to remove the compressor, check for oil and apply as instructed.

    I am confused as to installing the refrigerent. You said to hold first can upside down but did not say whether the following cans need to be upright or upside down for liquid. Please clarify.

    The local mechanics use the "venturi" evacuators which I was avoiding but if it is OK will purchase one from local supply house and do it all myself. What is your opinion of this method?

    Thanks,
    Steve G.
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    98explorer:
    Ok, You replaced the battery, but I'm not sure if that had anything to do with your starting problem. All you said was "hard to start". When the engine is hard to start, do you mean that the engine does not crank, or turn over slowly or sluggisly, or do you mean that the engine cranks over normally but just does not start?
  • 98explorer98explorer Member Posts: 8
    it cranks over normally, it just doesn't start, it's getting a spark and fuel checked and cleaned the idle air control valve and still nothing, it seems to do this more when parked at an angle
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    Installing the refrigerant is easy, just be careful. You hold ALL the cans upsidedown to charge liquid refrigerant into the system. The reason why, is that if you hold the can upright and charge with gas, the liquid in the can boils into gas, making the can freeze and the pressure in the can drops very low. You hold the can upside down so that the liquid does NOT boil in the can, you want the can to stay warm, so that the pressure in the can does not drop down too low. It is very important to note that you should start with the vaccuum in the system, HIgh side valve on the Gauge set closed, Low side valve open, and with the can connected to the charging hose, with the valve on the can tap CLOSED. When ready to start charging, hold can upside down and very slowly open the can tap valve,watching the low pressure gauge, begin to charge the refrigerant into the vaccuum on the low side. You should see the low side guage slowly rise up out of a vaccuum the build up pressure. As the low side builds up pressure, watch the high side gauge, it should slowly start to rise also (this indicates that the gas is flowing from the low side through the orifice into the high side. You should keep charging until the pressure stops rising, this will depend on how cold or warm the can in your hand is. If you kept the can from getting cold, the pressure should be up to around 80 to 100 lbs. Then start the engine, and set the AC to MAX AC HIGH BLOWER. The AC clutch should engage and the compressor will start pumping the refrigerant from the low side to the high side, making the low side pressure drop, and high side pressure increase. Once the can is empty, the low side pressure should drop very low, the compressor will start cycling, turn off the can tap and remove the can. Put on the second can, slowly open the can tap to slowly charge refrigerant into the low side, Use the can tap valve as a throttle valve to control the rate of refrigerant flow into the low side, and to control low side pressure from going over 60 pounds. Keep the low side pressure under 60 pounds while you are charging the system, to keep from slugging the compressor with liquid refrigerant. Check the lable on your system to see how much refrigerant it should take. I think about 30 ounces would be close, just under 3 cans. But don't just go by the volume or the weight, observe the pressures in your system and put in just the right amount of charge to bring your pressures and temperatures into the correct range. See the attached text at the bottom of this post.
    Whatever, you want to use for a Vaccuum Pump is fine, as long as it is able to suck a good vaccuum, down to 29 inches. The Venturi types use air, and may take a lot of air to operate, so be sure you have a good air supply before you get one. Most do it yourselfers buy the single stage electric vaccuum pumps, they are the cheapest ones. Most shops buy the dual stage electric vaccuum pumps, because they do a good job and last longer. You may be able to find one at a tool rental outlet.
    Since you are new to this, I included some text from an AC paper I wrote, that explains about how to charge your AC System. You may find this useful:

    There are two ways to tell what the refrigerant is doing in the system, you must use Both:
    First, with the AC Gauges, reading the high side & low side pressures.
    Second, is measuring or feeling the temperatures of the lines & vents during the charging process.
    Start the engine, set the A/C to Max Cool, High Blower. With Engine idling, as you slowly charge the refrigerant into the low side vacuum, the evaporator begins to fill with boiling refrigerant as the charge is increased. As the charge is further increased, cold refrigerant vapor and mist begins to flow into the accumulator. Then at the final amount of charge, cold vapor & refrigerant mist begin to flow towards the suction port of the compressor. You MUST FEEL the suction line at the compressor to see how cold it is at the SAME TIME that you are watching your gauges & charging the system. When you JUST BEGIN feel the coolness starting to come through the accumulator and then reaches the compressor suction port, STOP charging & let the system stabilize, before continuing. You MUST STOP CHARGING when the pressures look good & when the temperature of the suction line to the compressor BEGINS to get cool. Set the engine to run at 1500 rpm, you want the line at the Compressor suction port to be cold. Charging the A/C is a fine Balancing Act, to get it just right and achieve 100% system performance. DO NOT OVERCHARGE. If you do overcharge, the system will not cool very well, the A/C will not be as cold, & you may slug the compressor with liquid refrigerant, causing damage to the compressor. It is best to charge it a little under, than a little over. On an an average FLORIDA day of 90 degrees as an example, the high side should run about 210 to 235, low side should run about 21 to 30.
    Pressures will vary slightly according to your climate and location. Expect slightly higher pressures when the outside air temperature is hotter. There is a general rule of thumb that the high side pressure should be about 2.3 to 2.6 times the ambient air temperature (outside air temperature in the shade).
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    Hmmm....... parked at an angle? You mean like parking on a hill? Possibly a fuel pickup issue? I seemed to remember issues about fuel pickup when the fuel tank is low, say 1/4 or less. Does is seem to happen when the fuel tank is low, maybe try keeping the fuel tank 1/2 full or more and maybe not parking on hills.

    I found some references to explorers not starting with 1/4 tank of gas, when parked backed up on a hill. See Below messeges #3166, 3167, 3168 & 3171:

    #3166 of 5231 idntnvu & bond001 by jrc346 Dec 12, 2004 (11:55 am)
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    Bond001:
    You may have a point with the IAC valve. Seems like you posting about that brought back memories from the past when people were writing in here about "hard to start" and "poor idle" conditions.
    Both of the Explorers that I am talking about (2000's) will both not starting when backed up a hill, and have less than a quarter of a tank of gas. I always have to roll to the bottom of my driveway to start the trucks. It hasn't happened in a while because the gas always stays above 3/4 or a tank. When I suggested to keep the gas level above 3/4 it was for the reasons mentioned. Cooling, keeps debris out of the pre-filter (and fuel line filter), and solves the no start condition some have when on an incline.
    I don't claim that these are facts, just friendly suggestions that were passed on to me from various people I have talked to. They seem to make sense, but it's anyones guess. I do believe that it is a part of regular maintenance to change your fuel filters. When they build up crud and sediments in them over time, it causes a strain on your fuel pump, and will also decrease your gas mileage. Think of it as when you are blowing air through a straw. Bend the straw and it becomes much harder to push the air through. This strain causes heat, and will eventually get the best of your fuel pump.

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    • bond001 (Dec 12, 2004 10:20 pm)

    #3167 of 5231 Starting on a hill by opera_house_wk Dec 12, 2004 (5:56 pm)
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    I park my 97 facing down on a steep driveway and if I'm below 1/4 tank before I pull in, then there can be trouble. I've "run out of gas" there just trying to warm it up for a couple minutes. The tank is lengthwise and it is just simple physics.

    #3168 of 5231 Re: Starting on a hill by jrc346 Dec 12, 2004 (6:14 pm)
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    "The tank is lengthwise and it is just simple physics."

    Very true, but for some reason my 1999 Expedition does not seem to be as sensitive to this issue. However, like the rest of my vehicles, the gas in that rarely gets below a quarter tank.

    #3171 of 5231 bond001 by jrc346 Dec 13, 2004 (12:57 am)
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    "Is the fuel tank different in my Explorers than the 2000?"
    That is what I am wondering. The 1996 Explorer I sold 3 years ago didn't have the start problem on a hill, but it did burn up a fuel pump at around 90,000mi, so that is why I am cautious.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright Member Posts: 64,481
    I think that your excellent comment about flushing not being "magic" and not being able to repair a junk transmission, is/was the basis for my reluctance to endorse flushing as a "cure" for anything. I'm much more inclined to agree with flushing as a maintenance item---and I myself have done this and will do it on my cars.

    I think too many people are "sold" a flushing on the basis of their hope that it will correct an issue, and really, the odds aren't so good for that. So the shop gets paid for a flush AND an overhaul.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I think some of the confusion concerns changing/flushing vs power flushing - I've read comments over the years to avoid power flushing of the tranny fluid with those special external flushing machines/pumps.

    My Nissan service manual just says to inspect the tranny fluid every 30,000 miles and only replace if there's some indication of a problem, like milkiness from water intrusion or a dark/black/burned color.

    Maybe the Ford trannies really are that bad, but it sounds like overkill to do more than the manufacturer recommends - it seems like going around flushing the tranny, radiator, power steering and brake lines is an idea thought up by the bean counters in the quick lube places to maximize their profits.
  • 98explorer98explorer Member Posts: 8
    today we have discovered the crankshaft position sensor and are in the process of replacing that i think that is the problem i'll keep posted thanks!
  • dodgekbaddodgekbad Member Posts: 56
    My SUV is a '98 Explorer V6 SOHC with 108k miles. I was replacing plugs and wires when on the last one I finally got it off with Liquid Wrench and 20 minutes of waiting, in 3 intervals, for it to soak. Something went wrong because I can barely put in the new plug. I thread it by hand a little, and then use the socket and the plug barely goes down and just gets stuck in top of the socket.

    I think it runs a little rich. No check engine light however. But then again I didn't drive that much. Although I am tempted to just drive it like that until otherwise, but my gas mileage would be terrible I bet. And that defeats the purpose of changing the plugs to begin with.

    The plug looks like it's way out there by the way. It's the rear one on the drivers side. Any advice?
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    I can't comment on power flushing, but have NEVER had any of my vehicles transmissions POWER flushed. I always flush my transmissions by disconnecting the cooler line and using the transmission pump to flush out the old transmission fluid and add new fluid. I always drop the pan and put in a new filter before I do the flush. I believe that is the best way to do it. I've done this on my personal vehicles for over 30 years, on all types of vehicles, mostly American makes, several Chevrolets, 1979 GMC, 4 Ford Explorers, a 1991 Saturn, a 1976 Toyota and a 2002 Nissan Altima. The manufacturer's recommendations will vary from make to make and also over the years as technology improves, but I have found a good "Rule of Thumb" is to flush and replace the transmission fluid and filter every 30,000 miles. Most vehicles I know of will show signs of the fluid darkening by that time, or certainly by 60,000 miles. And some vehicles need it more than others, and unfortunately, Ford transmissions seem to need it the most, at least from my experience. If your transmission does not have a filler tube and dipstick, it's best to leave this to a shop to do. Bottom line, I believe is is good insurance to do good maintenance, and the transmission flush is money well spent, as long as you don't get ripped off and pay to much for it. As I said previously, I spend less than $100 to do the transmission filter and flush, doing it myself.
    Now about the "other" maintenance flushes, I also believe the other flushes, such as the Radiator, Power Steering, and Brakes are also important and beneficial maintenance items, for several reasons. Don't flush just to flush, flush when you need it.
    The Radiator seldom needs flushing, and for most people with used cars, this will usually occur when they need to replace a water pump or Radiator, otherwise 5 year intervals are about normal. Check the manufacturer's recommendations. Systems that use the Dexcool Antifreeze (Orange/Yellow color) should be drained and flushed more often, about every 3 years. I have seen Dexcool gel up when left in a system for 5 years. When you service the system, and you have to drain the cooling system, it is an excellent time to check the overall cleanliness of the system. If any rust, corrosion, or discoloration of the fluid, it's best to pressure check the system to look for any potential leaks, Check/Replace Hoses, fix any leaks, and flush the system. It is easy and inexpensive to flush the cooling system, using an ordinary water hose. Drain antifreeze into a pan and dispose of properly, antifreeze is poisonous and can harm animals. You MUST remove the radiator cap and leave if off during the entire flushing process, so that you won't build up excessive pressure in the system. I made a simple adaptor from hose fittings and plumbing fittings that allows me to connect the water hose to one of the heater hoses so that the water will flow through the heater core and then into the engine. Turn on the heater in the car so the the heater water valve will be open. Start the engine and let it idle. With the Radiator Cap off turn the water hose on slowly and watch water come out of the radiator cap opening. Watch out for splashing water. Slowly flush until the water runs clear. The engine needs to warm up enough for the thermostat to open and for the water to circulate through the engine, so you may have to turn the water hose off for a few minutes, and cover the front grill with some newspapers. NEVER hold your hand or your head over the radiator filler opening, as hot water can suddenly gush out! Once you have very warm water at the Radiator cap opening, turn the water hose on slowly, so that water runs out the radiator cap opening until it runs clear, turn off water hose, let the radiator heat up again and turn the water hose again until the water runs clear. You need to repeat this process a few times until the water runs clear every time, because when you turn the water hose on, the thermostat closes when the cool water reaches it, so you actually flush only part of the water out each time until the thermostat closes. Once all the water flows CLEAR out the radiator filler, turn off the engine and turn off the water, remove the hose adaptor, reconnect the hoses, and open the drain cock to drain the system. Close the Drain cock, refill with the proper antifreeze and Distilled Water. I recommend adding only distilled water to the cooling system. Again, it's cheap and good insurance.
    Power Steering and Brake Fluid Flushes are also easy and cheap to do. You can buy a bottle of Power Steering fluid for less than $5. Use an "OIL SUCK GUN or PUMP' with a hose attached to suck the old fluid out of the fluid reservoir. Discard the old fluid and pour in new fluid. I do the power steering "fluid replacement" every 30K at the same time I do the Transmission flush service and fuel filter change.
    The Brake fluid is also cheap, a quart cost about $5 to $8 and is usually enough to flush all four wheels. You might want to buy 2 quarts to be sure you don't run out in the middle of your flush. To Flush, you simply do brake bleeding at each wheel, using a one man bleeder, simple to make from a small plastic 6 or 8 oz bottle and a foot of rubber hose, size the hose so that it fits snugly on the brake bleeder screw, with the hose going through a snug fitting hole in the bottle top, with the end of the hose near the bottom of the bottle. Use a piece of tie wire to support the bottle during the process. Start at the Left Rear Wheel, attach the hose to the brake bleeder screw. Loosen the bleeder screw about 1/2 turn, pump the brake pedal about 10 times, then check the fluid level in the master cylinder. Pump until almost all the fluid is gone from the master cylinder, but don't let it run dry! Fill up the master cylinder about 3/4 full, lay the cover on top, so the fluid won't splash out, and pump the brake pedal about 10 times. Check the master cylinder and keep refilling it throughout the rest of this entire procedure. Close the bleeder screw, remove the hose and bottle, discard the dirty fluid, put the hose and bottle back on, open the bleeder screw, and pump the brake again 10 times, refill the master cylinder. Continue this same procedure until the fluid runs clear out of the wheel cylinder into the bottle. Close the Bleeder Screw and remove the bleeder hose. Move to the Right Rear Wheel and do the same procedure, then to the Right Front Wheel, and then finally to the Left Front Wheel. All bleeder screws should now be closed. Fill master cylinder with new fluid. Test brake pedal, brake pedal should be firm and high. Always test the brakes to be certain they are operating properly before driving the car. I do the brake fluid flush every 30K at the same time I do the Transmision flush service and fuel filter change.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. ISF
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    When you finally got the old plug to 'break loose', did it seem to come out easier the rest of the way or did you have to 'wrench' it all the way out. If it came out easily after it broke loose, it may just be that the new plug may be crossed in the threads starting it in. You can buy a spark plug thread 'chaser' that is like a tap, you screw it in and it cleans the threads, actually cuts the metal a little bit to reduce interference on damaged threads. If the threadS are messed up bad where the 'chaser' won't work, then you will have to buy a spark plug repair kit, like a heli-coil kit or similar. The guys at the auto parts house should be able to show you what you need. You have to buy the right kit for your type spark plug. It consists of a special tap that rethreads the hole to an oversize special thread. Then you screw the new heli-coil onto the installation tool and screw it carefully into the newly threaded spark plug hole, to the correct depth, according to instructions. Once in, the little metal 'tab' on the heli-coil is broken off and the repair is complete.

    AN OPTIONAL STEP: Myself, I do not like the little metal tab and any metal chips falling down into the cylinder, because with my luck, it will cause me a problem, so before I start doing the procedure, I locate the piston at the bottom of the cylinder, ready to come up on the compression stroke, and I fill the cylinder with shaving cream. When the procedure is done, you rotate the engine, and the shaving cream comes out the spark plug hole carrying any metal shavings and the little metal tab safely out of the engine. Then you have a 'new' spark plug hole with new threads.

    Note: I recommend that when installing spark plugs on any engine, DO NOT overtighen them, apply a very light coating of "never seize" onto the spark plug threads, then just install them tightened down snugly. Pick up the never seize at the auto parts house also. I've never seen a spark plug blow out, just because it came loose, and it if ever did, it would be a LOT better than stripped out threads.
    Let us know how it comes out.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. ISF
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    It's not just the cost of the fluids - ATF seems pretty benign from skimming the material data safety sheets on-line (even though most of the non-synthetic stuff is a known carcinogen to the State of California) but I still don't want that stuff winding up in my aquifer (replacement wells in my neighborhood start around $14,000). So there's the green issue of replacing auto fluids needlessly as well (eco green and dollar green :shades: ).

    Some of the indy shops around here don't even change radiator fluid anymore since the disposal issue is too much of a hassle for them. If you are doing that at home you should be taking the first drain to the recycling center and not flushing that stuff in the storm drain or the sewer.
  • kwccorbkwccorb Member Posts: 5
    My 1998 explorer makes some gosh-awful noises these days. Sounds like a red neck thug-mobile. I couldn't sneak up on anybody if I had to. It is getting quite embarassing at this point.

    I've been told that I need new ball-joints and whatever else goes along with it. But, is that what might be making the noise. The noise comes from bouncing on the least bump in the road or any other motion. I recently put new breaks on front and back.

    Any ideas?

    kwccorb
  • dodgekbaddodgekbad Member Posts: 56
    Thanks for the reply. I acually can't remember if it came out smoothly or if I wrenched it out. I was tired as dirt by then and on that V6 SOHC, all but one of the plugs are easy to reach -- so it;s sort of a hassle all the way through the process.

    I heard Helli-coil should be left to a pro. It sounds like this cross thread job should be left to a pro also.
  • ecnirpecnirp Member Posts: 20
    2004 XLT 4X4 - 13K miles.

    This morning I took the SUV out and had no problems. 6 hours later I go into the garage and it will not start up. There was a little bit of light on the dash and then I lost it when I turned the key. Just the old clicking noise.

    Jump started it and took it around the block. Lights on the dash were flickering on and off and the gauges were not stable. Then then the battery light came on so I parked the car.

    Do I need a new battery or could it be the alternator or something else? Is there an easy way to diagnose? Could a shop just hook something to the battery to determine the issue?
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    How many miles? Have you had the ball joints replaced? The suspension BUSHINGS front and rear need to be lubricated, they squeak loudly when they get dry. Get a big can of WD 40 and lay on the ground right up beside the vehicle and spray all the suspension bushings (all points that move). The bushings are on the front on each side, 2 upper control arm bushings at the frame, 2 lower control arm bushings at the frame,sway bar and link bushings and the shocks. On the rear, bushing are on each end of the leaf springs and on the sway bar and links and the shocks. Have a friend, preferably a heavy one, stand on the front or back bumper and bounce the vehicle up and down while you are listening to and spraying the bushings under the car. You may be able to hear where the sound is coming from, and as you spray the bushings, you will hear them silence. Keep spraying until the noises are gone. If the squeaks come back, then spray them again with a heavier spray grease, like a white grease or a marine grease.
    If the ball joints squeak, those will have to be replaced. There is a lower ball joint and an upper ball joint on each side, total of 4. The lower ones wear out first. You may need just the lowers replaced, or you may need both uppers and lowers replaced.
    You can also take it to any service or repair garage and have them put it on the lift and ask them to spray and lubricate all the bushings and anything that moves or squeaks. They will be able to check the ball joints then also. If you have original ball joints, they are probably ready to replace by now. I have heard of cases where the ball joints failed early, like at 50,000 miles, but usually they are replaced between 100,000 to 140,000 miles.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. ISF
  • electricdesignelectricdesign Member Posts: 681
    Yes, you need diagnosis, a shop can test the battery, starter and connections. It might be just simply a loose connection by your desription of the 'flashing lights'.
    Good Luck,
    E.D. ISF
  • kwccorbkwccorb Member Posts: 5
    I have the same problem with my 1998 explorer. I had a shade-tree mechanic tell me that it was probably this (as he pointed to a little electronic thingy near the air filter).

    I was just looking in my Haynes Repair Manual and the thing he was pointing at was the Mass Air Flow Sensor (MAF sensor).

    I looked up the price of the new part and it is about $210. I may give it a try. If it works I'll let you know.

    kwccorb
  • seres4seres4 Member Posts: 2
    Scratch it's nose maybe, but wake up - I doubt it. I've never dealt with such cold customer service about anything in my life. Anyone know how to get in touch with Erin Brockovich? I'll let you know how my day in small claims court turns out. Speaking of court, I'm going to take copies of as many messages as I can find about these problems with me to the judge to try to show a pattern of poor quality and service. I know they won't be about the dealer I'm suing, but I see the dealer as an agent of Ford bound by it's policies and practices. So, if anyone out there has stories about Explorer tranny problems, please reply with your story. If I can win this suit, maybe it will help create a precedent in the court system (at least in California) that will get Ford off it's butt to give the customers what they deserve for their money besides the offer of an extended warranty. By the way, my problem child is an 03 Eddie Bauer 4x4 V8.
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