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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hello dodgehappy. The easiest way for us to evaluate this deal is to look at this truck's selling price. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. Let us know what this CR-V's selling price is and I'm sure that either myself or another helpful community member will gladly tell you what they think of this offer.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey swampdragon. These vehicles have completely different money factors, residual values. Furthermore, you never mentioned their selling prices either. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable. Honda is currently providing a $1,200 dealer cash incentive on the Accord, but no cash on the CR-V. That money will make a big difference in the lease payment.

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  • swampdragonswampdragon Member Posts: 35
    The 1200 dealer cash is making a big difference in the lease.

    I was quoted 245.54 - with 755.54 down for the accord
    295.88 with 805.88 down for the CR-V

    If I wanted to put less down - then the monthly math would need to be adjusted.

    Another dealer was at $299 for the Accord - nothing down
    Honda is offering $250 with nothing down but on the Accord LX Model

    I might be oversimpligying things but why should I concerned about the dealer price and residual on a straightforward lease? I want to put nothing down and don't plan on keeping the vehicle at the end of the lease - I will look at the numbers for overage on the miles - no return fee - AHFC has a $1500 deductible on return also.
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hey swampdragon. The selling price for a leased vehicle matters because the lower your selling price is, the lower your car's monthly payment will be. I always advise consumers to shoot for a selling price that's as close to dealer invoice minus any available incentives as possible when leasing. Doing so pretty much guarantees that they are getting the best possible deal on the vehicle that they want.

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  • billdadbilldad Member Posts: 4
    Got an offer for 36 mo/ 12 k miles. New York
    MSRP $28525
    Cap Cost $26499 (with destination)
    Acquisition Fee $595
    MF 0.00080
    DMV/Title/Fee $300
    Residual Value $16259
    Total Out of Pocket Taxes etc $1500
    OTD Mo. Payment $339
    I'm to meet with saleman this week, anything else I should know, any advice, thoughts?
    Thanks
  • logitraxlogitrax Member Posts: 98
    Hey all! What's the current MF for the CRV 4WD EX?
    Thanks!
  • rostasteverostasteve Member Posts: 5
    Figured I'd share the offer I got from a dealer in Northern NJ yesterday on a 2011 LX AWD for 36m/12k lease.

    MSRP: 23,700
    Cap Cost: 22,300
    Residual: 60%
    MF: .0008
    Monthly Payment: 275

    Bank and DMV fees upfront (~$900). Taxes (7%) in the payment. This the first offer the dealer gave me without any negotiation. Seems like a fair deal...
  • delta737hdelta737h Member Posts: 626
    rostasteve,

    The 0.00080 MF and 60% residual factor applies to the 2010 CR-V LX 36/12k lease not the 2011 CR-V. AHFC is not offerring subvented financing for the 2011 CR-V.

    John
  • rostasteverostasteve Member Posts: 5
    Thanks for the heads up John. The dealer made it clear that it was for a 2011. I wonder if this was an honest mistake on his part...
  • delta737hdelta737h Member Posts: 626
    edited October 2010
    rostasteve,

    My best guess is that it was an honest mistake. I just analyzed a lease for a 2010 CR-V from an Ohio dealer with an MF of 0.00080 and residual factor of 60% for a 12K/36 month lease. The dealer needs to double check their rate sheets. However, I'm not sure but I think the 2011 MF is 0.00200 and residual 62%.

    Good luck!

    John
  • logitraxlogitrax Member Posts: 98
    edited October 2010
    Just picked up a 2011 CRV EX AWD last night for my wife:

    MSRP 26,025
    Invoice 24,267
    Incentives 0
    Holdbacks 505 (Adjusted invoice = $23,762)
    Residual 66%
    Money Factor .00158
    Acquisition 895

    SALES PRICE 23,888
    ADJ. CAP COST 24,783

    277.57 payment + 26.23 tax = $303.80
    There's a $400 dispo fee at the termination, so the adjusted monthly cost is $314.91.

    We compared it against the 2010 EX with Honda's .0008 MF. Those #'s were:

    MSRP 25,875
    Invoice 24,128
    Incentives 0
    Holdbacks 502 (Adjusted invoice = 23,626)
    Residual 60%
    Money Factor .0008
    Acquisition 595

    SALES PRICE 23,697
    ADJ. CAP COST 24,221

    275.38 payment + 25.80 tax = $301.18

    So for a difference $12 per month, we went with the 2011 model so that my wife could drive off the lot in a black on black, which we've been unable to locate in the 2010 model. Plus, we got to stick with a salesperson/dealer I've stayed loyal to for my past 9 cars...which helps make it worth the extra cash!
  • forschreiberforschreiber Member Posts: 5
    Could anyone help me with November's residual and money factor for an EX-L CRV no nav??
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Here you go, forschreiber. Honda Finance's November buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 CR-V EX-L without navigation with 15,000 miles per year are .00071 and 58%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top aka "Super Preferred" credit tier.

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  • bythehudsonbythehudson Member Posts: 1
    Could anyone help me with November's residual and money factor for an CR-V EX-L without nav. with 12,000miles per year?

    Also, I really don't know much about this Lease Calculation thing. Can anyone review the deal I got at below, and tell me what I should be careful about when I meet a sales associate tomorrow to purchase a CR-V EX-L?

    2011 CR-V EX-L
    MSRP $27,895 + $780 (destination)
    Total out of pocket downpayment at $3,000
    Total out of pocket monthly payment of $299 for 35 months
    NYC tax rate is 8.875%

    Please help!
    I'm planning to buy this one tomorrow.
    Thank you so much in advance!
  • centennialcrvcentennialcrv Member Posts: 1
    I think I got a good deal on this one. I have been calling several dealers, and waiting for the right offer. Saturday it was cold and rainy here in Indiana. I don't think the dealership was busy. The first dealer that I visited called to offer me a better deal than previously quoted. Here is what I ended up with.

    2011 CRV SE FWD
    15,000 miles per year for 36 months
    I paid only the first payment of $259.04 on Saturday (Including 7% sales tax)
    I have 35 more payments of $259.04.
    I think this is a good deal. Can anyone top this?
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi bythehudson. Honda Finance;s November buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 CR-V EX-L AWD with 12,000 miles per year are .00071 and 60%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top credit tier.

    The easiest way to evaluate the deal that you were quoted would be to take a look at this truck's selling price. The selling prices of leased vehicles are negotiable, just as if you were paying cash for or financing them. Without this number it is much more difficult to tell how large a dealer discount you were given and in turn if there is any room left to negotiate. Let us know what this number is and Im sure that either myself or another knowledgeable community member will gladly tell you what they think.

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  • acarshopperacarshopper Member Posts: 6
    I'm interested in leasing a 2011 CR-V EX AWD in NJ. I do not want to put more than $1,000 to $1,500 down. Does anyone have a suggestion as to what a great monthly payment would be under these circumstances? I'd like to have an idea before I go in and negotiate. Also, would waiting until the end of the month make much of a difference? Finally, would waiting until December (or the end of it) give me even more of a negotiating advantage? Thanks!
  • acarshopperacarshopper Member Posts: 6
    To clarify, I would also like a 15k/year lease. Thanks!
  • acarshopperacarshopper Member Posts: 6
    Okay folks - so I wound up leasing a 2011 CR-V SE 4WD because I could not justify the price difference for a moonroof. Here is my deal; 36 months/15,000 miles per year, $500 down (includes first monthly payment) and 285 per month, inclusive of taxes. How did I do?
  • steevosteevo Member Posts: 389
    Car_man,
    Do you have the mf and residual for same WITH Nav?
    Thanks,
    Steve

    "Here you go, forschreiber. Honda Finance's November buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 CR-V EX-L without navigation with 15,000 miles per year are .00071 and 58%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top aka "Super Preferred" credit tier.

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  • steevosteevo Member Posts: 389
    The numbers are the same for the CR-V with Nav. I just worked out a deal for my wife on a CR-V EX-L with Nav using those numbers. We agreed on 29000 for the CR-V EX-L Nav using the above .00017 and 58% for 36 months and 15000 miles. Also Honda is forgiving the final 2 payments on her Pilot Lease which we will now turn in when we pick up the CR-V. There is a 595 bank fee and a 75 dollar Doc fee.
  • packer3packer3 Member Posts: 277
    Great people great deals my third Honda. Leased 2008 Accord LXP with 3 payments left, I brought it back and got into 2011 CR-V SE AWD, 12M miles $700.0 down $265.00 per mth 36 mth. Mohamad down there is a great guy to deal with.
  • aladdinprincealaddinprince Member Posts: 3
    Hey all,

    First time thinking of a lease but got complicated when trying to factor in a trade so i'm thinking better without, sell myself. Is that smart?

    I'm looking for a 3yr/12k miles, no money down except nec stuff. But what is that?
    Getting all kinds of crazy fees that i think are bogus! What should be the only fees?
    And, in NY vs NJ (live border) are there different fees? I heard no doc fee NY?

    Had some jerk try to tell me the glass etching fee was Honda req? Yeah right, walked out, when he said they put door pads on all the doors too.

    Lastly, how do you know how to compute the lease, tries Edmunds calc, didn't work at all. Are these fixed by Honda? I want to negotiate the price first and down but how do i know they did it accurately?

    Thx a lot!
    ps
    The deals i did get so far, several, with little haggle was $349/mo inc tax (down is 1st, dmv, doc.) Putting money down isn't a good idea, i know that much w/lease.

    I also got a trade offer $325w/tax and a check back for $2400. They were giving me $4000 for my mint 2000 civic.
  • steevosteevo Member Posts: 389
    Use the MF and Resdiual values in this forum. Then plug your numbers in to the lease calculator found at leaseguide.com.
    Your deal sounds decent to me. My deal is 377 a month including tax but I am getting Nav and 15000 miles. My doc fee in LI was 75 dollars. Also they are charging tax on the bank fee and the doc fee, said its a new NYS thing. Also NYS tire disposal fee of 12.50, wtf is that I am not disposing I am buying!.
  • drz05drz05 Member Posts: 1
    Hi,
    Can anyone help me with the money factor and residual for November for the 2011 CR-V SE AWD?
    Thanks!
  • lenamcdearmidlenamcdearmid Member Posts: 9
    edited November 2010
    This is the deal I have currently

    2011 Honda CR-V EX-L with navigation

    Lease is 36 months at $375 with tax. No money down or due at signing.
    MSRP is 29425
    Residual is 59%
    Money Factor is .00017
    Cap cost is $27,719.62

    I live in 30067

    Is this deal a good one? Considering finalizing this today
  • steevosteevo Member Posts: 389
    Looks like a good deal to me, especially if that price includes the bank fee and the first payment, but even if not its a good deal. I assume that is a 2WD truck. You can see my deal a few posts back..
  • lenamcdearmidlenamcdearmid Member Posts: 9
    I am assuming all fees/cost/payment is included. Basically i bring no money at close. Thanks !!
  • packer3packer3 Member Posts: 277
    Screw the factor, your getting beat by $50. a month. Plus the fact your monthly payment will be over $280.00 per mth.with the taxes and MV
  • lenamcdearmidlenamcdearmid Member Posts: 9
    So you believe that my package 2011 honda cr-v ex-l with nav for $375 a month is too high? no money at all out of pocket?

    I have contacted several dealers around here and no one can come close to that with no money down, for the package that i wanted.
  • packer3packer3 Member Posts: 277
    Give it a shot tomorrow first day of the month and maybe there is a new Honda sales program and they need to start off with some sales, go in with a check written out at $325 and tell them you want the CRV and here is the first months payment.
    If they ask for a down payment and they will, have a check written out to the amount of $500.
  • lenamcdearmidlenamcdearmid Member Posts: 9
    I wasn't going to pay first payment tomorrow or down payment. all my inception fees are included as well.
  • snowcrazed1snowcrazed1 Member Posts: 4
    Hi,

    I am a first time car leaser.

    Here are the details

    MSRP: 23,725
    Residual: 63%
    MF: .00071
    Terms: 36 months/12K

    My Questions:

    1. Should I put a down payment? say $3000?
    2. Should I be negotiating a better MSRP? or profit on top of their invoice price?
    3. I understand I should get the security deposit waived? what else should I try to have waived?
    4. Should I try to get add on included in the deal such as heated seats, or the thingy that covers the back trunk that is silly to not be included!!!

    I really appreciate any helpful hints. P.s. I have good credit!

    Marianne
  • snowcrazed1snowcrazed1 Member Posts: 4
    I just posted, but realized this detail may be more helpful.

    Dealership in Bellingham WA

    Dealer Net: $22134.19
    Gross Margin: $1381.33
    Acq Fee (included in payment calc) $595
    Gross Cap Cost before Dealer Contribution: $24,110.52
    Cap Cost Reduction: $1870.00
    Net Cap Cost: $22,240.52
    MSRP: $23,725.00
    RV% (12000 mi/yr): 63%
    RV calculated: $14946.75
    Money Factor: 00071
    Depreciation: 202.6
    Service Chg: 26.40
    Base Payment: $229.00
    Amount due at signing: $2,099
    Security Deposit Waived

    What do you think of this offer, where should I negotiate?

    Thanks,
    Marianne
  • steevosteevo Member Posts: 389
    packer3 you are hysterical. At least I hope you are trying to be funny because if you are serious then you are a fool.
  • contract_buildcontract_build Member Posts: 26
    edited December 2010
    Dear car_man,

    I wish to thank you in advance of any information you - or kyfdx - might provide to my questions on this leasing forum (as well as some other Honda car leasing forums I'll post a question on).

    Because of your essential information 4-1/2 years ago I read here on Carspace/Edmunds, we were able to negotiate, in April 2006, a 3 year/15k lease on the then current year 2006 Honda Pilot EX-L that:

    We got priced down to $28,139.48, and, thuslyCost us only $358.14/monthHad a residual of only $16,197.50... so we bought the Pilot at the end of our lease!!!
    We're currently looking to lease another Honda - somewhat more mileage oriented - and wish to know if you have any December figures for the CRV?

    My wife and I are looking at the 2WD 2010 EX or EX-L leftovers or the current 2011 2WD EX or EX-L's, 12k/15k residuals and the money factor(s) for the Honda Financial leases.

    Is there a difference in the lease factors for the 2010 or 2011 years?

    Once again, THANK YOU!

    Sincerely, builder
  • contract_buildcontract_build Member Posts: 26
    edited December 2010
    1. Should I put a down payment? say $3000?

    LEASING... NO WAY (at least for an individual/non-business).

    Your GAP coverage will only cover what you owe on the car: if it's stolen or - heaven forbid - there was a MOST serious accident, some or ALL of that three grand will be unrecoverable.

    2. Should I be negotiating a better MSRP? or profit on top of their invoice price?

    Don't talk about leasing with your dealer to start out... get as LOW of a purchase price as you can - see the other CRV forum for prices paid (may vary as to the region in which you reside) - then you can compute the depreciation/residual and money factor numbers when you're discussing the lease.

    Nonetheless, basing a lease off of the published msrp will not result in your best deal.

    3. I understand I should get the security deposit waived? what else should I try to have waived?

    If you're dealing with a Honda dealer, take a look at the current specials running off of the Honda Motors website: $0 down for many of the autos (read the fine print:TTL, Dealer "fees", et.al., will have to be paid "upfront" or rolled into your lease payment).

    4. Should I try to get add on included in the deal such as heated seats, or the thingy that covers the back trunk that is silly to not be included!!!

    Not sure what you're talkin' bout here... heated seats and such are based on the "trim level": heated seats will only come with a leather seat trim model which the LX SE does not have.

    As far as the cargo cover... after you get your best price, my advice would be to try to get them to throw that in: after they agree - with a FIRM commitment from the Dealer's sales manager, then start talking lease with the residuals and money factors you'll find here from the moderators here: car_man & kyfdx.

    GOOD LUCK (!) and let us all know how it goes...
  • aladdinprincealaddinprince Member Posts: 3
    First, I would never put cash down for a lease on a car you might give back. And, never pre-pay the tax. If its totalled or stolen, you are out that up front cash whatever the payout. Also, a lease is not ownership as they might have you think.

    I know that lowers the payment but you are still paying it. Get them to lower the cost of the car. So, i guess that could be #1, always negotiaite the car price first. Don't say i want my payment to be X as they will tweak things you don't understand to get you there.

    I spoke with Honda finance direct and they told me, off the record, the exact same thing. They also dictate residuals etc off MSRP and the invoice is fluff too. The only charge Honda requires is the $595 bank fee. The dealerships add everything else, mostly. Some will try to add extras tell them no! if they are on the car tell them you are NOT paying for them.

    Here is the deal i just signed, Honda CRV EXL (no Nav, not worth it, nuvi $100)
    3yr/12k mi lease. $287.83/mo.
    MSRP 28675, price for lease $26050 w/destination.
    Out of pocket $1117 included 1st mo, bank fee, dmv and bs NJ tire fee.

    I got them to waive the doc fee, never pay that! and throw in an oil change as i walked out when they said no to the doc fee but they ran out after me. i did almost all the nego's online as i won't waste my time. another guy was in there holding out for financing and he was gettting everything too. Be strong and firm and you will prevail!

    Remember the most important is price first as that is what they base the lease amount on! And then only pay down the min. GOOD LUCK!
  • boomer26boomer26 Member Posts: 1
    My Accord lease ends in April 2011. The dealership is hounding me about what I'm going to do next. I'm fairly certain that I want to lease the CR-V, and I see some really good deals out there. I hope to lower my lease payment (I currently pay $439 a month and know that was not a good deal). Is there a reason to start this process now, or is it unwise to start this early?
  • snowcrazed1snowcrazed1 Member Posts: 4
    Hi, thanks for the advice.

    Regarding your deal:

    Did you negotiate down from MSRP from 28675 to $26050 w/destination?

    If so, then I should just give them a price around $2500 off of MSRP, would that be a good place to start?

    sorry I am not a pro at this stuff.

    Marianne
  • snowcrazed1snowcrazed1 Member Posts: 4
    Hi- Even though I know I want to lease a car, I understand that I am not suppose to reveal this fact until the car price is negotiated.

    My question: What is the standard amount of wiggle room on price that is typically given among dealers out there? Is it for example $2500 off of MSRP (or Invoice price for that matter)? Just need to know what a good starting point is, if anyone can care to share their success here?

    Thanks,

    M
  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi aladdinprince. There's nothing wrong with trading in a vehicle when you lease a new one, but it would be in your best interest to keep your two deals separate. Doing so keep the dealer from making things confusing and trying to take advantage of you. Negotiate a good deal on the new CR-V that you want and then introduce your trade. If you feel comfortable with the amount that the dealer is willing to give you for your trade, have them cut you a check for it rather than using the proceeds from it as a down payment for your lease.

    The following article outlines how to calculate lease payments: Calculate Your Own Lease Payment.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi drz05. Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 CR-V SE AWD with 15,000 miles per year are .00071 and 61%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top aka "Super Preferred" credit tier.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Welcome back builder. Here's the information that you're looking for.

    Honda Finance's current buy rate lease money factor and residual value for a 36 month lease of a 2011 CR-V EX 2WD with 15,000 miles per year are .00071 and 60%, respectively for consumers who qualify for its top aka "Super Preferred" credit tier.

    The numbers for an otherwise identical lease of an '11 CR-V EX-L 2WD are .00071 and 57%.

    If you were to lease with only 12,000 miles per year, these vehicles' residual values would be 2% higher.

    Honda is not providing any lease support on the 2010 CR-V any longer so you probably will be better off leasing a 2011 model.

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  • CarMan@EdmundsCarMan@Edmunds Member Posts: 38,514
    Hi snowcrazed1. If I was in the market for a 2011 CR-V right now, I personally would shoot for a selling price of $500 to $1,000 over dealer invoice. You can look up the invoice price of the exact model that you want over in the New Vehicle Pricing section of this site.

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  • aladdinprincealaddinprince Member Posts: 3
    Car Man thanks, this is my post the other day.

    "First, I would never put cash down for a lease on a car you might give back. And, never pre-pay the tax. If its totalled or stolen, you are out that up front cash whatever the payout. Also, a lease is not ownership as they might have you think.

    I know that lowers the payment but you are still paying it. Get them to lower the cost of the car. So, i guess that could be #1, always negotiaite the car price first. Don't say i want my payment to be X as they will tweak things you don't understand to get you there.

    I spoke with Honda finance direct and they told me, off the record, the exact same thing. They also dictate residuals etc off MSRP and the invoice is fluff too. The only charge Honda requires is the $595 bank fee. The dealerships add everything else, mostly. Some will try to add extras tell them no! if they are on the car tell them you are NOT paying for them.

    Here is the deal i just signed, Honda CRV EXL (no Nav, not worth it, nuvi $100)
    3yr/12k mi lease. $287.83/mo.
    MSRP 28675, price for lease $26050 w/destination.
    Out of pocket $1117 included 1st mo, bank fee, dmv and bs NJ tire fee.

    I got them to waive the doc fee, never pay that! and throw in an oil change as i walked out when they said no to the doc fee but they ran out after me. i did almost all the nego's online as i won't waste my time. another guy was in there holding out for financing and he was gettting everything too. Be strong and firm and you will prevail!

    Remember the most important is price first as that is what they base the lease amount on! And then only pay down the min. GOOD LUCK! "
  • packer3packer3 Member Posts: 277
    As I mentioned in my thread previously, Leased 2008 Accord LXP with 3 payments left, (they ate the last three months) I brought it back and got into 2011 CR-V SE AWD, 12M miles $700.0 down $265.00 per mth 36 mth. I'm one of those smart fools, I nego. for a living.
    I didn't use that tatic but if you pay attention to a saleman how many times do they say if you are serious about the car today are you willing to sign and I will work on a deal. Why give them a chance with there pre written speach, be proactive, you should make the pitch, be in control your the buyer.
  • liannellliannell Member Posts: 47
    Carman or kyfdx, can you tell me if Honda offers the option of doing Multiple Security Deposits on on their leases? If so, what is the max number of deposits allowed, and how much does each reduce the money factor?

    Thanks!
    LianneLL
  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 236,720
    No MSDs with Honda Finance..

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  • vodnikvodnik Member Posts: 1
    I was yesterday on Honda dealership.
    I did not sign lease contract yet.
    I have next deal:
    2011 Honda CR-V 2WD EX-L no navig
    $306/m, 36 month, 12000 m/y, $1600+ DMV for others fees
    I don't know about deal.
    It's good or ...?
    I followed to deal of aladdinprince mess #816
    '2011 HONDA CRV EXL (no nav)'
    I did not find what taxes he paid.(NJ 7%)
    'Out of pocket $1117' does not include taxes.
    My Dealer told me you pay more
    because NY taxes higher than NJ taxes
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