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It would be interesting to know how many Fortune 500 CEOs drive Lincolns today. Maybe just one, Alan Mulally. It would also be interesting to know how many drive Cadillacs. Even though GM has not yet reentered the Fortune 500 (although it's expected to), my guess is that more CEOs drive Cadillacs than Lincolns. I imagine, though, that most drive MBs, BMWs, Audis or Lexuses. A few may drive Porsches or Ferraris, or even Corvettes and Teslas.
The important thing for Lincoln, though, is the future. Will more CEOs be driving Lincolns in, say, five years?
Gary Kelly, Southwest Airlines: 2005 Porsche 911 Carrera (bought used)
Dan Amos, Aflac: 2007 Volvo XC90
Dixon Thayer, I-trax (health care facilities): 1986 Ford F-250
Phil Libin, EverNote (technology company): Lexus GS 450h
Adam Selig, Visible Technologies (brand management): 2006 Mercedes-Benz CLK
Robert Stacy, Asia Media Products: 2007 Porsche Cayman
Henry Givray, SmithBucklin (association management): Audi A8
Craig Hunt, KeysCaribbean Resorts: 1997 Land Rover Defender
Kris Singh, Holtec (energy company): 2003 Lexus LS 430 and unknown 2007 Mercedes-Benz AMG
Debbie McGrath, HR.com: 1993 Oldsmobile Silhoutte
Bob Peterson, Melton Truck Lines: Toyota Camry
Raul Fernandez, ObjectVideo: 2007 Maserati Quattroporte
Dean Cubley, ERF Wireless: Mercedes-Benz SL 500 (That’s a roughly-$100,000 car. The company has yet to turn a profit.)
I don't know anything about Debbie McGrath, but I do know she's not a show-off. Well, at least she drive a Oldsmobile, and not a lowly Chevy. More interesting than what she drives, is why she drives it. For annonymity, maybe, or to prove she has nothing to prove? The Silhoutte is a brilliant choice for reducing your chance of being carjacked.
For HR.com, maybe an organization as useless sounding only produces enough revenue to fund an old Silhouette? :shades:
Well, Dean Cubley's "SL 500", and whose company has yet to turn a profit, may be for real. Still, what year is his MB? Also, is the car a company expense, which adds to whatever losses are accruing?
And we don't know what year that Camry is, either.
SL500 would be before 2007, anyway.
Thinking of all that, a friend of mine's father was a senior engineer at a company, made very good money, had a gorgeous house, had a new 40K+ car expensed to the company,etc . They also had a well-used ~75 Chevy pickup for junk hauling. Would look good for those stats. On that note, the Silhouette and Camry were probably there to be used by the hired help.
I personally know one VP at my employer (which employs tens of thousands) - probably making a very healthy mid 6 figures. He and his wife get a new Volvo wagon or CUV every 5 or so years. The director of my group, one step below VP and certainly into 6 figures as well, is a stereotypical schmoozing old fratboy, and drives a 5er. Shocking!
Submit to the limit.
Ross Perot's car was an early 1980s Oldsmobile Ninety-Eight Regency.
Sam Walton drove an old Ford F-150.
My wife's boss is chaufferred around in a Lexus LS460L.
That is a full three to four model years from now, but it does indicate that the new new Lincoln Motor Company team has finally gotten the memo that they need to pump much greater resources into their products if they are to be competitive, a hard lesson Cadillac learned earlier. Unfortunately, it takes three years to do a significant line-up revamp. But they are on the right road now.
An aside: beginning to see some MKZs on the road. In the metal, I think the Fusion actually has better looks.
Don't put a lot of stock in that article. Insiders are saying it's full of inaccuracies, although everyone agrees an Aviator is coming.
Really? Cadillac vs. Mercury? Shouldn't the Cadillac be "top of the line"?
2 Women CEOs of major Vegas Hotel/Resorts - one drives a Rolls (has 2 of them, convertible Corniche and a Silver something, both recent models). The other drives a Honda Element. I know them both, and have asked them both. The difference is: The one cares, the other just doesn't care about cars or image.
Two friends (CEOs) of mine, (major corporations, a CEO can own a new stand too) - one drives a Cadillac DTS, the other an Audi Q7. They both "like" cars, but neither want to be that high profile. I find a lot of my friends who have "really made it", actually try to downplay their profile a bit, while those who are just trying, or really don't have the success, fame or means, are the ones trying to show off. Hollywierd celebs and rappers excluded.
Something tells me that I would have walked over broken glass to have worked for your dad. That kind of loyalty still exists, but it's rare and will probably be entirely gone in the next few years.
I joined my company 45 years ago and came back to stay in 1980. I am beyond odd in today's environment, but I still appreciate working with people who've been here for awhile.
Most of us who have installed the tune are seeing 0-60 times in the mid 4s and quarter mile times in the high 12s - and even better mileage when driven conservatively. Ford left a LOT on the table with the ecoboost V6 and hopefully when the MKS moves to the new platform and gets a more robust transmission, they will utilize its full potential.
I don't think 365+ hp in either vehicle will have any significant effect on sales volume though.
I would be surprised if there is much real-world performance difference between a stock MKS ecoboost and the XTS VSport. Again, with a tune, the ecoboost MKS becomes a different beast.
Enthusiasts who want high performance are simply a rare breed nowadays for most vehicles but especially for full sized sedans.
Until I began frequenting some forums specifically for ecoboost vehicles, I had no idea that there were so many guys modifying and drag racing their SHOs, Flexes and MKSs. While a drop in the bucket compared to all the car buyers out there, they are a very loyal and vocal group. There are a number of reputable tuners who are continuing to offer hardware and software upgrades for the ecoboost.
I think there is something sort of cool about a quiet, comfortable 4400 pound full-size vehicle that looks like it should be driven by a Florida retiree but is capable of pulling away from a 5.0 Mustang or V8 Camaro. Not everyone's cup of tea, though...
Little creepy, there, bruce! :surprise:
But considering how GM drove Cadillac into a ditch, they are doing pretty well. It takes a much longer time to restore a reputation than it took to destroy it. So Cadillac went downhill for a good 20 years and it'll take at least that to come back.
Let's see how they look in 2020, then maybe I'll change my mind.
2020 is only 6.5 years away. 2030 might say even more. Took a quarter century to nearly kill it, should take the same to revive it.
BTW, speaking of sales cannibalization,isn't that exactly what the MKZ is doing to other Lincoln models, given that Lincoln sales are not growing since its introduction?
Tesla---who knows on this one! My personal feeling, just from the gut, is that all full-electric cars are ultimately doomed. So my crystal ball says that Tesla will have to morph into something else, or else be content as a very small niche player catering to the luxury "toy" market ala Maserati, Aston Martin, Bentley, etc. However, the later choice is dangerous because it is very hard to make $$$ on low production in the car business, unless you remain pretty small (like Morgan).
Most reviews of the XTS look have been positive. The car itself is mechanically and dynamically no standout, but looks on the street it seems to have. I recently saw an XTS and MKS is close proximity parked. The eye immediately is drawn to the XTS, whereas the MKS either looks a bit too tall, or at best anonymous. It does not look like the money they charge for it. And other than the grills (which vary considerably still), Lincoln vehicles do not resemble one another at all in different sizes. Maybe the next MKS can begin a Lincoln look or styling trend for sedans. Hopefully the MKC will start a trend for the CUVs/SUVs in the family.
Specifically the 5th one on the list.
And the styling is either love it or hate it--
So, okay Cadillac is hunting the E Class Mercedes...where does that leave Ford?
XTS has a rear quarter window the CTS doesn't have, different greenhouse. The front end is similar, but that's art and science. ATS is more similar to CTS, but noticeably smaller.