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2011 Fit Sport AT @ Stevens Creek Honda off their President's Day Sale Ad (they had a ton of fits, and even more that just rolled in this morning when I picked up my car)
Price incl. Destination Fee: $16,288
Gov't Fees: $287
Doc Fee: $55 (CA state maximum)
Taxes @9.25%: $1506
Total OTD: $18,136
Wasn't really thinking about picking up a car this early (since I move out of state in a few months), but the deal came up and it came under Truecar.com's "Great Price" mark of 16.9k so we went to our local dealership (Capital Honda) to see if they would match. They thought it was illegal since they were advertising below cost (ad stated that it excluded finance charges, gov't fees, applicable taxes, no mention of destination charge)! We weren't sure they'd still have the car at Stevens Creek since only 5 VINS were on the ad. TJ Singh (Internet Manager) helped us out and just let us pick any of the Fit Sports so I got the color I wanted.
Any help would be much appreciated. I did search older posts but the last post was Feb 22.
Thanks,
zach
Personally, the differences between the Base and the Sport aren't important to me (spoiler, alloy wheels, etc...) but for $1k more, I suppose it's a good value. Any opinions?
RP: $18,460
Sale Price: + $ 17,495
Doc Fee: + $ 299
Sales Tax: + $ 889.70
Title Fee: + $ 34
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OTD price: $ 18,717.70
Plus they threw in rubber floor mats.
And .9% financing.
Here are quotes from other dealers in the area.
19,012
19,174
$19,725
Dealer near airport: $17,708
Northside dealer: $17,545
South suburban dealer: $17,495
Near northside dealer: $17,294
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Actually, Carrs was rather high. The near northside/westside dealer I found with the best price and service was McGrath. Talk to Jerry Lopata, I found him a nice person to deal with.
Ed.
I found that Fletcher Jones was the lowest so far at 16,545.29+ $750 Destination. I know it's not much- less than a dollar.
O'Hare Honda, and other dealers weren't too far from these prices. Schaumburg Honda was most expensive, quoting me an MSRP price.
The local dealerships say this is the last one in Base Manual form and the Fits will trickle in very slowly from shortages. Good Hunting!
Had my mind all made up to purchase a used 2009. However in doing research, I'm finding that in my area (Seattle / Bellingham WA). Used Fits cost more than new here. Factory invoice on Fit Base AT (incuding shipping) $16,650. I can find no use base models & the cheapest used Sport is $16,690 with 17K miles. Most are $18-20K. I realize these are asking prices, but even according to NADA the average retail for a used 2009 Fit is greater than the cost of new.
Since the 2011s all have VDS & traction control standard, it seems stupid to even consider a used one. So at this point, I am anticipating going to the dealer to order a new Fit Base in Celestial Blue. Am I missing something here? :confuse:
So, options are limited:
1. Wait till the market adjusts downward
2. Go for a different car
3. Pay an exhorbinant, premium price for a Fit, basically bashing the low ownership cost of the vehicle.
Assuming you are talking about the 2011 Insight Hybrid hatchback, I don't find it larger than the Fit in terms of passanger or cargo volume. I have looked at ( I like the look) & driven the Insight; here is what I found. The Insight is a hybrid that will better the Fit by 10-20% mpg, but is a small, streamlined hatchback is no match for Fit in terms of versatiity - if one needs or wants hauling space.
On the road the Insight was OK, but not inspiring in any way. For my short legged physic, I found that the front of the seat bottom put excess pressure on my thighs so I couldn't drive it comfortably - deal breaker.
But most things that have good cargo area end with "lander" and so on and have massive tires and 4WD. And about 18mpg...
- The Matrix is a good choice. The interior is as plastic as a tupperware party. But it is a good alternative. You can get a Matrix for less than a Fit.(truecar or similar) There's no question that the Matrix is a better and more solid car. It's not a fast seller and so you can get them for far less than MSRP now. The manual is better, of course, giving you better MPG and performance in traffic. Toyota makes superb manual transmissions as well. Pretty much on par with Honda, IME.
The Fit's problem area is the rear bottom sil is extremely rounded and that gives you geometry that won't actually "fit" a 30x30 box. I mention this as it's a fairly standard size for shipping and a lot of furniture from IKEA and similar places comes with that as a pretty normal dimension on one side. The Matrix has no such issue by comparison. So lots of cargo can actually slide in instead of having to be angled and arranged. Also, carpet sucks for cargo - the Matrix has the right idea for actually hauling stuff around.
**Stuff to avoid**
- The Kia Shoe (I mean Soul) is right out, as is the Puke (I mean Juke), just because it's also just too ugly to actually say "I own this!" to your neighbors. There's more pride in owning a panel van than in a Juke. At least you can lie and say "It's for work" or "It's made in the U.S.A." or something... And the Cube, well, you might as well get the original cube - an Element. At least that thing's somewhat useful despite being completely retarded looking.
- VW makes great hatchbacks and wagons. But reliability is poor. Pass. Shame, too, since their TDIs do get great fuel economy.
**alternatives to consider**
A small SUV if it got high enough MPG might also work. But most are frightfully expensive. (RAV4 for example) Two come to mind, though, because they are cheap, and that is good.
- The Equinox gets 22/32 mpg, which is pretty high for a small SUV. It can carry a lot of cargo and people and isn't actually a bad vehicle. You can get a CPO base model for about 16-18K a year or two old, and even in base trim, it's far nicer than the Fit inside. CPO and GM is a match made in heaven as you let some other sucker eat the depreciation and often you can get a lot of nice trim items thrown in as well. GM makes very nice interiors I have to admit.
- The other one that I recommend even more, though, is a bit out of left field for many. It's the Jeep Patriot. It has fantastic interior space and feels like an up-sized Fit in many ways (ie - basic box to get around in with lots of glass and space for the money). The only potential gremlin in the mix is that you absolutely must buy it with manual as Chrysler makes decent manuals but their automatics, especially their CVTs, are hopeless.
23/29 mpg is pretty decent. With manual, you can get over 30mpg quite easily on the highway. And of course, you also can get a 2WD base model about 15-16K with decent options added. Cheap and tough and hauls a lot of stuff around. Also doesn't look like everyone else's jellybean. The rear seats also recline and the interior is at least as nice as the Fit's(seats are more comfortable for sure). It impressed me. And then I saw the stupidly low prices they are selling for. We're talking almost Yaris cheap for a base model, especially at the end of the year.
Truecar has one listed near me with nothing but AC (kind of required, ya?) for $15,300. Jeep is running $1500 in rebates until the end of the month - but they get better when the new models come in. Compared to a base Fit, it's a pretty close call in terms of what it has and doesn't have. Of course, you can load it up, but your best bet is to keep it as bare as possible to save money.
The 3-4K difference in cost buys at least the first two years fuel (lower insurance and interest paid on the loan as well as tax and license as well - it's closer to 5K out the door less money. Or about 32K miles in your tank, even at today's silly prices.
4x4 might be a good option, though - for $18K, it'd be much better in cold weather. (it actually can do off-roading with the manual and 4x4 unlike most SUVs) (18K with a/c,side airbags, 4wd, and the interior/power group)
$18K for this or almost $18K for a Fit... Just saying...
At least you're getting what you're paying for, and $18K for a Fit by the time you deal with dealer gouging does beg the question why not get a better vehicle for $20-25K? If economy is your real goal, the Fit is just too close to the price of a good midsize sedan, let alone something like a base Mustang. Base model is $22K(Truecar). It gets 30mpg highway and has 300hp. Worth $4K more? Well, DUH. And that's before year-end rebates come rolling around and make it closer to $20K.
Cheap family and cargo hauler? Patriot.
More money? Matrix or maybe a small SUV. Or a much better car and forget the cargo area. Honda's loosing sales at this point as they've raised their price over the years (base was $13850, now $15850) and the dealers are still asking MSRP.
Note- I do like the Fit, but paying MSRP or more on a car that came out five years ago just simply turns me off.
The only Fit 2009 & newer that I could find that less than 17,900 was a private party 09 Sport on Whidbey Island with Nav, TC, VSC & AT with 27K miles for 16,600. Sounded good, but my wife quickly quashed any ideas of purchase when she saw that it was purple. If you don't mind purple, it sounds like a "great buy" in today's market. look it up on craigslist
I'll take my chances and wait for the new base to come in, hopefully in a couple months or so. Thanks for sharing the info, enjoy your new car!
New 2011 Fit Hatchback Automatic--------$16,488.00 (destination charge included)
Delivery Charge---------------------------------$95.00
Sales Tax -----------------$1,622.21
DMV Fees-------------------------------------$325.75
Document Fee-----------------------------------$55.00
Total OTD----------------------------------$18,585.96
I have asked them to deliver the car, so I don't need to travel and go into the lion's den. Anything I can do better on? This is the lowest price I can find so far.
Thanks!
Sale price - 17600
Freight - 750
Tax, fee & tags - 1417
GAP coverage (I was not sure about this but figured might need it plus got .5% lower interest) - 699
Total = $20,466
Thanks!
I also find any additional warranty package a complete ripoff. They would say you get 7 years of coverage but it only means an additional 4 years as your warranty covers 3 years already.
Also, most auto insurers, such as Geico, offers mechanical coverage for new vehicle for a fraction of the price, plus you can elect coverage up to 15 months after you have purchased your new vehicle.
Don't be a sucker buying all these Gap or extra warranty coverage, you are throwing away thousands of dollars to the dealers.
Fit Sport 18200 + doc fee + tax + title = 19600. Good deal?
At last, I just tell her to come down to Bay Area, CA this july 4th weekend. Get the car and we will bring this new car to a road trip back to WA.
From the quote I get from South Bay dealers, at least they are MSRP/slightly lower than MSRP. GOnna do it this weekend, wish us luck
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I am looking to buy a Honda Fit AT with Nav option in Northern VA. I am so surprised that many dealers provided quotes either close or equal to MRSP ($19240 not included freight). There was no quote near the invoice price. When I bought my Honda Odyssey four years ago, i got a lot better deal $500 below invoice. No one would think with this economy, the car price keep increasing and dealers seem not want to back down on their profit.
Any ideas for a reasonable offer that I should make? thanks.
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The dealer puts a "phantom footprint" on every car and they charge $260 or so and if your car gets stolen and totaled you get $5000 towards a new car at that dealership. Total scam. Well he insists they have to charge for it and "reduced" the price by $200 or so. Cost of the car including the phantom footprint ripoff quoted at 18,460 which happens to be the sticker price. No bargain there. They want $75 for the "optional" dealer fee which he insists is not optional, and here's the kicker, he said the registration fee would be about $149, and when I pressed him on the exact amount he PRETENDED to call someone (think GlennGarry Glenn Ross) and said it was actually $198. Total BS, actual title and registration should be about $115. The NYS attorney general has actually gone after dealerships for overcharging for the registration fee yet they still continue to try this trick.
So right now I'm at
Car + phantom footprint:$18460
$10 inspection
$12 some kind of tire charge
$75 "optional" dealer fee
$198 registration (I'm definitely going to get this lowered, hopefully to $115)
Plus sales tax which the salesman computed on the $18460 only, but I'm sure it will be applied to more than that.
I have some more haggling to do, but I don't really have much wiggle room, as the fit does not seem to be a car dealers stock a lot of.
I plan to get the rubber mats and cargo area mat but can find them much cheaper from a dealer online. $89 for the mats and $69 for the cargo mat, way cheaper than the dealer. The floor model had rubber mats and cargo mat and wheel locks for something like $350. Total ripoff!
16,599 for the car then all the fees.. destination, doc etc. plus tax here is 9.25%.
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