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Since I had driven the Avalon, I went to the Hyundai dealer first. The list price on the Avalon was $5000 more than the Azera; after driving the Azera, & finding it comparable in handling, ride comfort, etc, to the Avalon, I didn't even bother going to the Toyota dealership as it would have been a waste of time.
I have not regretted the decision. I have 25,000 miles on it with no problems, & am extremely happy with my Azera Limited. I will replace it with another Hyundai when the time comes. I would also like to note that I found the transaction at Baytown Hyundai in Baytown, TX, very pleasurable. The salesman and personnel were curtious, knowledgable and informed. Above all, they wanted to sell cars and we were able to negotiate a price that was around $400 over invoice. I have had the car serviced there since purchase, and have been very happy with the service department also.
My hunch is that Seoul hasn't done the greatest job of writing up the minutiae of some of the settings in the English service manuals and materials that dealers here have and I was lucky enough to be at a dealership with Korean mechanic and some Korean salespeople. Alexandria Hyundai seems to get a lot of business from the local Korean community here in Northern Virginia and I fully intend to keep going back. Great buying and service experience so far with my 2008 Azera so far. This is my 3rd Hyundai and 1st one I bought from this dealership.
Additional note, avoid Fairfax (VA) Hyundai like the plague! Rip off artists, if they can get away with it, in both the sales and service departments.
My dealer experience:
Joe Pecheles (Greenville): This was actually the 2nd Hyundai I tried to buy from them in the past 2 months. Friends were looking for an Elantra. They tried to play games with me then (Sales Manager and Salesman) and lied to me when I stopped by a couple of weeks ago to look at the Genesis (BTW I did not give them my name either time.) Never even responded to me regarding the Genesis after emails.
JERKS!
Medlin Hyundai (Rocky Mount): Contacted me 3 days after receiving my email. Also would not give any numbers on the phone regarding friend's Elantra.
Southern States (Raleigh): Agreed on Genesis, but BS me on trade-in and Genesis lease incentives.
Lee Hyundai (Fayetteville): Okay, just slow to get back with me on numbers. by the time they did I had bought a car from............
Hyundai of New Bern (New Bern): I ended up buying my friend's Elantra from them after calling one time and talking to Sales Manager. Gave great deal in writing and only kept my friends long enough to get paperwork done. Wally and Liz were great.
I went down there to look at Genesis and talk numbers after initial conversations. Not feeling really good thinking maybe financially I needed to wait until next Summer. They had an 2009 white Azera. LOVED IT. Just about everything you get with a loaded Genesis for A LOT less $$$. Worked with Liz again as well as Bobby and Cecil. Mr. Strickland (owner) was also very nice and friendly. No pressure, easy process. :0)
I don't have the numbers in front of me, but got below invoice, plus $1000 rebate, plus special financing rate that my credit union could not touch.
White pearl,
Beige leather
42,000 miles
$17,000 OTD(this figure includes tax, tag transfer etc..)
I've been a Hyundai owner since 1988 having owned a '88 Excel, '92 Scoupe, '98 Sonata, 2001 Santa Fe, 2007 Santa Fe and my wife currently drives a '08 Hyundai Veracruz Limited that she loves.
I drive a company car(Grand Caravan) but considering my son is learning to drive and I wanted a sedan, I felt the Azera would make an ideal used vehicle purchase. When you factor in the impressive engineering, features, quality and surprising depreciation of the Azera, it became a screaming bargain!
Cannot wait to detail this car and make it shinier than new.
Craig
Whats so remarkable is we also own a Veracruz with the same 3.8 litre engine and the Azera accelerates and shifts sooooo much better. Hard to believe they're the same engine!
Craig
Charles was an absolute gentlemen, along with being very easy to talk to and negotiate with. I'm very glad to give him my business.
The other dealerships include one in VA beach whose internet salesperson (Scott) hung up on me (details: I let him know that I was looking at another Azera which had a price $1500 less than the one he was selling. He tried to justify his markup by saying it was due to the fact that his carried a transferable warranty, and he could ALMOST guarantee that his had better tires and fresher brakes. I then said that I could buy brand new tires and brakes for less than $1500. Then he hung up.) Another dealer in Richmond, VA had two Azeras with the exact same mileage and details, but couldn't get the price even close to the $15,300. Still, they didn't hang up on me.
Anyways, looking forward to closing the deal on Friday when I can make it down there to pick it up. Also, thanks to everyone for their prior posts as I utilized them for my research.
In case you are yet to close the deal, I suggest that you hold out for a better deal. The price seems a little high.
Try looking through Carmax & see if the Azeras they have on their inventory matches your requirement. Down here in Texas, I have seen a lot of Azeras under 35k miles being listed for under 13-14k on Carmax & other dealers.
Just look around. It might even be cheaper to fly to Texas & drive back! (Just looking out for you buddy!)
5k cost to repair my Azzy, but Falls Church Auto Body (Virginia) did such a great job that my mechanic at Alexandria Hyundai said he wouldn't have noticed the work unless I had mentioned it when I asked to have them put it onto the rack so we both could see it. Only minor, millimeter sized, differences from what it should be.
My bottom line...safe car, saved me from whiplash...definitely will drive it until it dies, even if I can afford a fancier car in the meantime. 'Mi-Ok', Korean for 'beautiful pearl' will be my girl for a long time...
I was searching every day for a month. The cheapest price and mileage I found was 2009 Azera Limited with 13,000 miles in Florida (and I live in Michigan) priced at $19,880. Then I decided to search Craig List in the nearby states. And I found this car in Ohio Cleveland area. And I drove there two time, to test the car, and then to get it because this was a steal.
36 months / 15,000 miles per year
MF = 0.00136
Residual = 55%
MSRP = $37,565 (asking price $39,040 with dealer options added to include protectants and tint)
Invoice = $34,969
Price Paid = $34,479
Adjusted Cap Cost = $33,962 with $2250 worth of rebates
Out of Pocket = $0 + Free iPad Mini
Total monthly payment including NV sales tax = $480.
why isn't the cap cost lower?
34479 - 2250 + 595 = 32824 (not 33962)
Adding $180 tax on the 2250 still makes it 33004
is something missing?
1. The doc fee in Nevada is completely optional (i.e., negotiable)
2. There is $1000 lease bonus cash on the Azera:
"Lease Bonus Cash Leasing Bonus Cash
Requirements and Restrictions:
Customer Bonus Cash is available towards leasing. Available on 36-48 month term contracts. Must finance through Hyundai Motor Finance.
Leasing Bonus Cash Start End
$1,000 01/03/2013 04/01/2013
Raise some hell with them; they were not honest with you.
I actually did get the $1,000 lease cash, in addition to the $750 loyalty discount, and $500 military discount for a total of $2,250 in incentives.
The doc fee was really the only part of the lease I wan't too happy with. I was able to get out of my Sonata lease a few months early though and not have to pay the disposition fee, so I can't complain too much.
I don't know what good complaining would do anyways since I already signed on the dotted line.
I also shopped the new Accord, and it is a great car. I liked a few things about the Azera better...especially the looks and the feel that it is more of a luxury car than the Accord. The interior is nicer too. The Accord is a bit more reasonably priced, gets better mileage, and actually accelerates quite a bit faster if you get the V-6. But overall, I still like the Azera more.
I drove the Audi A4 and A6. The A6 was nice, but way too pricey and the lease was pretty awful on it. The A4 was decent, but the Azera has a better interior. I also have kids, so the tiny trunk and back seat in the A4 didn't quite cut it for car seats and strollers.
Not that it matters now...I am in the Azera lease for the next 36 months and I love the car.
I'm looking for the "black series" cts-v with all the goodies...at one time the fastest production sedan.....no longer since the panamera is now faster...but not just for speed....cts is a great car....i don't think the mid cycle redesign will change styling...caddilac is into the new "wedge and chisiled" style now..cts wagon is also very nice....currently own a black over black 06 (25k mi) azera premium that has been flashed and dynoed @ 300 hp at the wheels lots of carbon fiber upgrades also....wouldn't trade it for any other azera that i've seen.. my daily driver is an 01Santa Fe with 150k mi m both were bought new at first launch for both models
For similar bucks, the Buick Lacrosse Premium II looks very competitive and features the HiPer strut suspension that eliminates torque steer in high powered FWD cars like the Azera. Our '06 Azera torque steers badly, get a downshift to 2nd on a crowned road and if I'm not holding on and anticipating the response, it would be easy to end up in the ditch.
Enjoy your new Azera!
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/ford-revoknuckle-and-gm-hiper-strut-explain- ed-tech-dept
IMO, the Azera front end problems can not be fixed with a strut replacement. I guess if the struts on our Azera went bad - as exhibited by loss of damping, uncontrolled bouncing up and down, porpoising - I would look at a strut replacement with one of the higher end aftermarket products. Till then, we motor on with a front suspension design that has some problems.
Trying to sell my 2007 Azera now, what do you think is a good price for 87k miles, but mint condition?
I'm currently evaluating a 2014 Cadenza vs a 2013 Azera. Are you stating that your Cadenza buying experience was horrible, your Azera buying experience was horrible or both were horrible? So far, my Kia sales person has been laid back... perhaps too laid back! The Hyundai people have been as you described, so much so that I'm working on an internet deal with two other dealers 200-250 miles away that appear to be more on the up and up. We shall see.
Also, how do you like the Cadenza? I'm a bit put off that the Cadenza's UVO service does not offer remote start as does the Blue Link service on the Azera. Its odd, one can have dealer installed remote start added on a Kia Rio, Soul or any other lower model but that is not offered or even possible on Kia's new "near luxury" model Cadenze. Strange.