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unfortunately, with any car you get, no matter what manufacturer, once your out of warranty, you are at their mercy and they technically don't have to do anything for you!
For anyone else, don't let him deter you from getting an Acura or Honda product! If you look at CR reliability history chart for the TL, the last model year for widespread transmission issues was 2004. Since then, they have gotten above avg or much above avg scores for their transmissions! they are no longer a problem
I have had a 2006 TL and now a 2008 and I have had no transmission issues with almost 90k combined miles on those cars nor do I know of anyone of my countless friends and family members who have Honda and Acura products have transmission issues
He likes to complain about Acura day and night, but what he doesn't tell you is that, I have had the same exact trouble with Infiniti that he has had with Acura, just regarding a different issue. All the manufacturers treat you like dirt, and there is no brand loyalty with any of them. I've found that out the hard way over the years. Nissan has had terrible trouble with the 1st Gen CVT which is one of the reasons why they extended the warranty to 10yrs/120k miles on the CVT and connecting parts to the transmission. They also did it to avoid lawsuits b/c people were having their transmissions blow out at 50k, 60k, and 70k+ miles and having to spend $5-10k out of pocket for replacements which Nissan would not reimbursed. Nissan is still giving people trouble who had their transmissions go out before they extended the warranty coverage and needing tons of papers which the customer does not have and not reimbursing them still. Thankfully, the 2nd Gen CVT from 2009+ has thus far seen much much fewer CVT issues and less intensity compared to the 1st Gen. That is why I waited to get the Maxima until 2010 once I saw how the 2nd Gen CVT faired. So far, after 12k miles, it has performed flawlessly and no problems what so ever yet.
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I'm agreeing it was a terrible experience to have to go through but I don't think it is appropriate to tell people that an entire car brand is terrible. I had a terrible problem with brake/rotor issues on my Infiniti FX, but I don't go on the Infiniti threads and tell people not to buy their products and that all Infiniti's are bad and should not be bought b/c I had one negative experience with my vehicle.
I did not curse or personally attack him. I think I did pretty well addressing his warnings and problems with Honda/Acura transmission and staying at the transmission issues at hand. I have both Acura and Infiniti vehicles so I think I can offer a good perspective on the issue.
Acura took 11 days to notify me of their decision. Very inconsiderate.
Don't worry - they are rid of me and my extended family. Their actions cost them 3 sales in the past month with more to come.
Please post and let us know if you still have a working transmission in a year or two.
I'll wager that your "D5" light will be flashing soon.
Good luck - you'll need it.
I never referred to your rants about your Infiniti as whining as you did with me. Please by civil and professional to other members. Show some class.
Hopefully you'll never go through what I experienced with Acura. They could have called me two days after my request and inform me in a reasonable manner why they did not wish to contribute more to the repair of the transmission. 11 days is what it took for a decision.
As I previously posted, this car was totally nervewracking to drive from around 60k to the end. I flushed it regularly. I brought this transmission to their attention and went on record of the problem at 60K plus. The constant daily slipping had my daughter wonder is the D-5 light going to flash today? Is today the day the transmission goes out? She drove to her college and her special education assignments each day about 40 miles and was fearful of being stranded somewhere.
Acura never did anything. It was like just wait for the other shoe to drop.
My family had 3 transmissions go out on MDX, TL and an Accord. I don't call that "whining" my man - I call that "facts."
Hopefully you never see the dreaded "D5" flash.
What you went through with Acura is exactly how Infiniti and Nissan have treated me so I can understand how you feel with being treated like that, just with a different brand obviously.
I hope your happy with your new vehicles and they are problem free for you!
So I did as they advised and just got the estimate from the dealer. They said that a full transmission replacement was advised, and with a full replacement the ECU would also have to be replaced because the shift points will all be different for a new transmission. The estimated total cost is $6100. They have talked to the district manager and have authorization to do the replacement for a cost to me of $2100.
Except-- My independent shop gave me an (admittedly off-the-cuff) estimate of about $2000 for the job. This is a major disconnect, and I think the actions of the independent shop in pointing me to a dealer instead of just quoting a replacement speaks to their integrity. I'm also a little suspicious that the reduced cost I'm getting is just about dead on what my independent shop quoted.
So my question is: Is $6100 in the ballpark of replacement of transmission and ECU for an 02 TL (so maybe my independent repair guy just didn't take into account into account) and is it really necessary to replace the ECU?
I could use some informed opinions. Thanks
I decided to just go with the dealer's offer. The cost is comparable to what I was led to expect by my service guy, so it isn't like I'll save money going to them.
I just have this sneaking suspicion that the highball quote allows the dealer to look generous while getting me to pay for all or most of the repair. If this is the case, I'd like to know in order to decide where to make my next purchase (which may be soon). If the deal is more or less square, I want to weigh that into my choice of dealers for my next. If it's not, well that will carry weight as well.
Yeah that's about the price for a reman----$2900---but that includes the torque converter. Are you getting that, too.
The labor (with replace torque converter, flushing the lines, etc) is about 12 hours.
The Torque converter, if not replaced, would be about an $850 deduct.
Where I live, 12 hours labor is around $1500, so this sounds like a fair deal to me if you're paying $2100 total.
Would anyone have any suggestions as to what this might be or how to go about having it diagnosed correctly?
Thanks!
PLEASE HELP!!!! I was afraid to pay to have it looked at and have the same thing happen just as rkling01. I know for one thing it's the same exact issue!!!! :sick:
His advice to me was to call the dealer and let them know that I understood they weren't obligated to anything, but ask whether there was some sort of accomodation possible, indicating that I was willing to share a reasonable portion of the expense. Don't be confrontational and don't demand a given split. It doens't hurt to let them know that you might be thinking about a new car sometime soon. His advice worked out for me (IMHO).
They are putting in a new transmission on Friday. Sounds like a common problem. Some of the posts I have seen on these types of boards said that the transmission problem has been fixed in 05 and newer TLs. Not the case with mine. I also have a 2003 with 140,000 miles. No problems with that. Love both cars.
The transmission approaches its first shift point (from 1 to 2) at 1500-1750rpm, 2nd gear is engaged with a jerk and the car feels as if it lurched forward. Noticeable more when accelerating slowly, frequent shifting between 1st and 2nd gear becomes a When the car is decelerating and transmission downshifts from a higher gear into 2nd a similar event occurs, there is slight jerk.
I also noticed that regardless of outside temperature or whether transmission is warmed up, when picking up speed or at moderate highway speed, 3rd (and sometimes 4th) gear is engaged with a sensation of pull and shift is always noticeable, occasionally there is a jerk as if some kind of mechanical friction prevented normal operation. On occasion when accelerating between city blocks through gears 1,2 and 3 with approximately 40-45mph and then decelerating - transmission would downshift with a jerk. Given the age and mileage of the vehicle, I would expect the transmission to operate seamlessly
I have taken this car to the dealer 3 times.
1st time they flushed the transmission. (220.00)
2nd time they changed EGR valve and cleaned out system think this had something to do with hesitation.(350.00)
3rd time they just wanted me to go way
The problem is still there. At this point my dealer says they can’t find anything wrong with car. It’s very frustrating
Any ideas ???????
I will be out of warranty in 10,000 miles
the electrical problem is really the mind boggler you have a computerized car with an electrical problem mine needs to be reset because of this
08 TL w/ Nav 41k miles.
They also told me how each of them had had to replace their transmissions, one 3 times. This is not right. However, it sounds like there is no recourse - any ideas?
Did u ever get some assistance with ur car. I'm thinking i'll get the tranny flushed next.
-Should ALL the work be covered? It isn't a 2004 with the tranny recall. But I do not recall my warranty that is now in the black book in my car in their Acura parking lot.
What coverage/warranty should I expect they will give me on the rebuilt?
Should I ask about the torque converter? Not sure what it is but it was spoken about in an earlier post.
Thanks for any help.
My question is, does anyone have experience with a failing transmission? I couldn't get a straight answer (and maybe there isn't one) as to how long I have to buy a new car. As I mentioned, I can feel the car shifting but it's not very noticeable. Will the problem continue to deteriorate or will it just stop?
Thanks for any help and advice.
My mechanic does not think it is tranny problem (?).
Sincerely,
Tim