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But to chime in, VIN etching prices charged by the dealer are a total ripoff. The fact that they make it appear as if it is required is criminal, and in my humble opinion, it detracts from the look of the vehicle. I've also read somewhere that it affects integrity of the glass, but that's BS in my opinion.
I made it clear to dealers up front when I emailed or called that I am not going to pay etching. I didnt even give them a chance to tell me that they charge for it or now.. For me it worked.... Many dealers I dealt with immediately changed their tune and went to their managers to have the fee waived.
The thing with Wayne Mazda is that they love to beat prices.. So if you are willing to be harsh with them and inform them of other options out there, they will bend.
I ended up buying from Ramsey Mazda, but after I found the vehicle that I wanted at Hamilton Mazda way down in South Jersey. When the dealer there wouldnt bend on price and trade and etching, the sales person who I was dealing with at Ramsey, went the extra mile and not only went for the vehicle on my behalf all the way down to Hamilton but also gave me an additional 1000 for my trade in plus coupon on the website for extra 500 off plus waived the etching fee upfront.
I didnt mind gettig my vehicle with 150 miles on it.
I agree - some companies do give you a break for etching. Mine doesn't (AIG). Some companies give you a break, but only let you stack 2 or 3 discounts together, so it still doesn't pay off in those cases.
Car dealers have a tough time. Consumers are smarter, and cars don't break down nearly as often, so the repair center isn't as profitable. Commissions and profits on used cars typically are way higher than new ones too, but more folks are buying from CarMax and off eBay and Craigslist and Kijiji. And their customers all lie to them too. :P
Smart Shopper is full of stories....
Wyne Mazda,and I guess a few others, do have the etching already printed in the sales slip....this is a shame....
http://www.mazdausa.com/MusaWeb/pdf/pricing_update/CX9-2008-pricing.pdf
Mazda Awarded First Place in Auto Bild Magazine’s “Quality Report” for the Third Year Running
HIROSHIMA, Japan— Auto Bild, Germany’s largest car magazine, has ranked Mazda in first place in its highly respected “Quality Report” for 2007, which was published on June 8. This was the third straight year that Mazda has been awarded first place in this annual report.
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They are the biggest dealer in the country, but, they are on the east coast. The west coast dealers usually get vehicles first, especially since the CX-9's come from Japan.
He did say that we could switch to another of our liking if they happened to have one on the floor before then, as long as our order did not include any options that made it harder for them to sell it.
I am in North Carolina and they said they would honor the S-Price for my employer.
Had 2 MPVs but wife and kids are tired of minivan. Looking at CX 9 and would like to try and get a left over 2007. Am I going to have a tough time? Don't want AWD because of lower mileage and cost but extra options on car won't bother me. Seems that availability of these is a lot less than on mini-vans. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
Bill
I wonder if the .2L upgrade was a Mazda idea, rather then Ford?
The increase is for sure a Ford plan, its their motor, and will be available for the 08 Lin. lineup.
http://www.mazda.com/publicity/release/2007/200707/070720a.html
Thanks!
Eric
I'm a pretty tech savvy guy so this is really bothering me. Anyway, if someone could give me the basic info - like how to get the ESN number I would really appreciate it. Also, if there's anything thats not intuitive about the system I would really appreciate it.
P.S. I searched online for the info and couldn't find it. I also called Mazda and they said they couldn't email it to me and I HAD to go back to the dealer.
Being tech savvy I'll bet you don't even need the manual. The best way to get the ESN is to call the 800 number for sirius...go to their site, it's there. The customer rep will take you thru the process (including getting the ESN) inside of 5 maybe 10 minutes. You probably have a free trial period and after that you pay a contract. Consider the lifetime membership as you can transfer that to other radios up to 3 times for a $75 change fee each time. If you keep it (Satellite radio, not the car since you can change it) long term, lifetime is the way to go...Good luck!
The overall feel is basically the same. It is just a matter if the other stuff matters to you?
press and hold the black knob on the left side of your radio controls and your ESN will display on the info screen.
I spend a lot of time in the seats 4-6hr per day and I cannot even drive it witout using a seat cushion.
Many people do not seem to have a problem, but a few of us larger people find the seat to be intolerable for long repeatitive use...
Good luck....
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/cars/4462.html
All I can base my opinion on are the facts at hand. First, the seats are so hard they are nearly intolerable. Second, I am NOT the only person who has had a similar problem.
If stating my opinion based on my experiance is wrong, then there is little reason to have fourms like this one...
The nav felt a little quirky in the beginning but once we got familiar with it, we like it now. Bluetooth works quite well. (If you have the fan in full blast you need to reduce the fan speed a little for the voice recog to work well). The rain-sensing wipers work quite well. Impressive audio system. Love the keyless start. And the Xenons. I would like a little bit more power/torque on this vehicle - but who wouldn't on any vehicle?
Overall, a slick, fun family hauler.
It's called "a loose nut behind the wheel"...
One neat thing I found out about the car recently when I was doing a thorough cleaning is that under the front passenger side mat, under a little pull up slot, the VIN number is etched into the floor of the vehicle. Thankfully I didnt purchase window etching before, but this is more ammunition for people not to purchase window etching. Here is the reality, thieves can break your window and tear off your dash board where your VIN is, however they will not rip out the floor of the vehicle.
Bottom Line- I love my CX9. My wife loves it, when I frive places people are in awe at how great the vehicle looks...
ps; 07 CXy9 (cuz its soooo sexy) AWD Gt sparkling black, nav system, dvd and power assist... I totaly love it! more so ... so does she
It is not unusual to see people in that position to bash anything about the car no matter how great it is..I guess is his way to get back at Mazda and the dealer.
We all should understand that and continue forward hoping that we do not encounter any kind of "fluke" in our ne w beloved car CX 9 or any other
The local Mazda rep failed to show up when he said he would to look at the seat. I drove (50 miles ) one way to the dealership to wait on him. After he was two hours late, and never called, I left.
If that is not a "screw you", I do not know what is...
I carried it to another Mazda dealer. I explained the situation and they at least took the car for a drive. He did comment that he through that the leather was a little harder than it should be. He called the Mazda Rep. He never returned the call. This delar told me that he did not want to get in the middle of the situation and I understood his position.
You guys are welcome to trash me all you want, but it will not change the fact that I bought a $35,000 vehicle that is nearly intolerable to drive without a cushion in the seat. I admit that I am quite bitter about the situation, however, I also believe it is fair to warn people that they may well experiance the same problem. That is exactly what these forums are all about.
If you do not like hearing the truth about my situation, there is a very simple solution...
DO NOT READ THEM....
P.S. I did get a lot of satisfaction yesterday when I filled out my JD Powers Survey about the dealership and the CX-9. I know it will not make any difference, but it felt good...
When I called Mazda I asked repeatedly to be pass up to a manager. The person refused to do so. I assume that they are trained to do this...
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