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Mercury Milan vs Toyota Camry
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Have season football tickets and I am ready for some football!
My Tauri have been excellent cars and good values. Wouldn't hesitate to buy a Milan or Fusion, though it will be a few years off, as the current Taurus at 60K miles is just getting broken in.
You'll save in monthly payments with the Milan, but that's mostly because the loan is for 6 years. It's not a good idea to drag out a car loan that long; for one thing, if you don't put down a large down payment, you'll likely owe more on the car than it's worth for most of those 6 years.
The 4-cylinder Accord is probably very close in performance to the V6 Fusion/Milan. Plus you already have the top-of-the-line trim. And the Accord has proven to be very reliable.
There are more issues to be unraveled for this deal however. The buyer is giving up a $1000 rebate to get the 0% financing. Also, how much upside down is this buyer on the car he now owns? Unless he put a lot down, he has lost a lot of depreciation--even the imports DO depreciate. Usually does not make any sense from a depreciation standpoint to unload a 1 or 2 year old car.
The best bet might be to refinance the present car at a lower rate. I cannot believe anyone would stick themselves with an 11% APR anyways. This person may have very bad credit rating to begin with, thus the high rate, and it is not clear they would qualify for the Ford/Mercury promotion, even though it supposedly is open to those with less than stellar credit ratings.
A coworker bought his Camry about 2 months ago and it's been back to the dealership 3 times. For some reason he still thinks Toyota makes the best cars. I guess the koolaid is pretty strong.
Just stop and ask yourself this one question, "why can I buy a car for 72 months at 0% interest?" Easy answer, they aren't selling, they are still inferior to the Camry, Accord and Sonata, and Ford needs to move metal for cash flow!!! Wake up, you have a nice car, but not as nice as my '07 Camry XLE V6, and CLEARLY nowhere near as fast!
Also, you failed to look at Fusion/Milan sales. UP, UP, UP.. so they are selling..Enjoy your over priced, overrated overdone, ugly Camry :shades:
It is indeed a jooint venture as fas as design is concerned.
It has however bieng manufactured by AISIN, which is a Toyota Affiliate.
If somebody who is TOTALLY unaware of the world of multinationals, and in the automotive industry in particular, a Toyota does make for a good choice.
The Milan (and the Lincoln Zephyr) are all based on the Mazda6 Platform which has been acclaimed as a great platform all around the world. The Duratec 3.0V6 engine too has been fine tuned by Mazda and is an ultra smooth revving engine that does not use timing belts but ultra-silent timing chains. The transmission, which typically has been Ford's Achilles heel has been remedied by a 6-speed Transmission that is built by non other than AISIN, which is a Toyota affiliate.
For somebody who knows the value of money, these cars that Ford has come out in the last couple of years as fantastic. Just look at the Mazda CX-7 and CX-9 based on the same Mazda6 platform.
Each country has their own workhorses. If you travel around the world you will notice that. Some have Toyota, some have Ford. Some have their own "indigenous" local brands.
I have a classical example that is actually funny.
In India there is a scooter company by the name of Bajaj, which few decades ago (1960-70 I guess) collaborated with Vespa of Italy to manufacture scooters. Well it was a hit and Bajaj sold scooters under their own brand name till 1990. It was very well revered even though there were barely any improvements made in all these years. In the 1990's Vespa decided to come back and sell their latest scooters under the "Vespa" brand name. Guess what?
People disliked it. The general opinion was that Vespa does not know how to make scooters as good as Bajaj. wtf.
if you want to race, why buy a camry? beats me.
>venture with GM?
>It is indeed a jooint venture as fas as design is
>concerned.
>It has however bieng manufactured by AISIN, which is a
>Toyota Affiliate.
This post is 100% false. The 6-speed in the Milan is Aisin sourced and is the same transmission in Avalon with unique programming.
The Milan transmission is in no way related to the GM-Ford joint venture tranny being introduced by Ford for the 07 model year in the Edge/MKX and MKZ.
Mark.
Almost right. Unfortunately the MKZ still gets the Aisin tranny for some reason even though it gets the 3.5L engine. It will probably move to the 6F (joint venture) next year.
MKZ continues with the AWF21 from Aisin.
Mark.
Even though the information was not out at the time of this post...it's interesting that the Fusion is now rated MORE reliable than the Camry and Accord.
Fusion reliability
Mark.
http://www.edmunds.com/apps/nvc/edmunds/VehicleComparison?op=0&tab=pricing&isbas- - ecar=false&modelid=&styleid=&refid=&maxvehicles=5&vehicleindex=&removestyle=&num- - Cars=2&just=center&disclaimer=false&modelId0=100516994&styleId0=100764367&modelI- - d1=100506010&styleId1=100699453
You enjoy your ride, I'll enjoy my $2,000, my 221hp, and the same 6 speed transmission that comes in the Avalon.
Oh and if you want to get really Bitchy, check out Consumer Reports Annual Auto issue. the 4 cylinder Toyota's reliability is WORSE than average...
In fact, in the 2006 J.D. Powers Vehicle Dependability Study, Mercury rated second after Lexus, Toyota was fourth after Buick and Cadillac.
How does that taste!
Mark.
Mark.
Mercury interiors from 60s to be pretty cool compared with Ford - looking like futuristic spaceship kind of cockpit.
Mercury Milan is just a Ford Focus with a different name badge. Just like Taurus and Sable were. They were both discontinued. Hmm.
I'm a big fan of Camry myself. It has a good reputation and is getting better each year. I'd be too scared to try a brand new car (unless it's like Sable... which I admit was a pretty decent car for the older folks! )
And if you think the Camry is getting better then you haven't been paying attention.
At least those were my impressions from test drives.
I am not sure why, but the seats also feel different to me.
Mercury Milan is just a Ford Focus with a different name badge. Just like Taurus and Sable were. They were both discontinued. Hmm.
I'm a big fan of Camry myself. It has a good reputation and is getting better each year. I'd be too scared to try a brand new car (unless it's like Sable... which I admit was a pretty decent car for the older folks! )"
LOL! Please come into the new millenium. Car reliabitliy is up, way up across the board. Get out on the internet and do the research yourself. Sounds to me like your relying soley on the media and PAST bashing of Ford/GM products. Toyota has had its share of problems also. Get out on the net they are there. I guess you didn't hear about the introduction slip of the Camry and its transmission issues huh? The media has had a hayday with Ford/GM in the last 10-20 years, bashing and bashing away. When Toyota/Honda have an issue, you don't hear about it. Now, don't get me wrong, Ford/GM have had some quality issues in the PAST and the media isn't soley to blame. But the bias is rampant.
Take look at the reliability ratings over at MSN.com in their auto section. You will be pretty surprised on how reliable the Taurus/Sable actually are. Research before you come into a room claiming Ford/GM are still unreliable.
I think the Millan is based off the Mazda 6 platform not the Focus...which will be based of the Mazda 3 soon (think it already is in the European Focus)
I don't think there was any platform sharing between the old Taurus/Sable and the Focus...
That's funny, I hear about Honda and Toyota "issues", recalls, etc. all the time on TV, in newspapers, etc. In fact, I remember an article that was in the Wall Street about how Toyota was not happy about how many recalls they had recently, and what they were doing about it. I have not noticed any media bias, in MY opinion.