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  • verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,286
    What? $5500 under invoice? Are you sure it wasn't under MSRP? Either way, good deal. Was it brand new or was it a demo?
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    If it was really 5,500 invoice then I am assuming you bought a service loaner.

    There is only 3,000 dollars of marketing support so the most you are going to see a dealer discount the car is 1,500-2,000 dollars under invoice.
  • 08lr308lr3 Member Posts: 76
    well, i'm not at all happy with paying what LR said was the MSRP or close to it, then giving out 3k in incentives. Just price the car fair and forget the this kicker. Its not fair to all those that purchased this year. Its like apple releasing the iphone for 599, then dropping the price months later for 299. sucks period.

    but, do like my LR, hate looooosing money (value) on the car like that..period..
  • midwestmike1midwestmike1 Member Posts: 5
    What are your favorite features on your LR2?
  • italylr2italylr2 Member Posts: 2
    I've had my LR2 since mid-July and just love it. Mine has the lights and heat package. Didn't get the tech because we already have a GPS and my two teenagers have Ipods. We live in northern Italy and I wanted a vehicle that was confortable and agile. I get both of that with the LR2. We have narrower roads and smaller parking spots here (on average). The LR2 can turn on a dime and is an extremely smooth ride. The 0-60 mph is not there, but that is not what I was looking for in this vehicle. What I like is the rear parking assistant. Lot's of parallel parking here. I like the Xenon adaptive lights. Never been able to see that well in the dark driving. We don't have a garage so the LR2 stays outside. The heated windscreen is a GREAT feature. Waiting for the defroster to warm up before driving off is a thing of the past. I hit one button and all the glass starts to be defogged/defrosted almost immediately. My wife loves the heated seats. I will tell that we got rid of a 98 Windstar and bought the LR2. Needless to say there is a considerable difference in what we had and what we went to.
  • jax10jax10 Member Posts: 36
    I have read, researched...trying to decide whether to get LR2...I know every make has its "lemons" & problems, but this seems to be a major one that I have read over & over, from the time they came out...living at least 4 hour (round trip) from closest dealer I am thinking it is a very big risk to buy the LR2...does Land Rover plan on having a recall on this problem? The REVIEW below is the latest REVIEW posted on EDMUNDS...Thanks.

    BEWARE OF THIS CAR!
    Date Posted: 10/19/2007 By: mtd130 RATING:

    DETAILED RATINGS:
    Performance: 1 Fun-to-Drive: 1 Build Quality: 1
    Comfort: 5 Interior Design: 5 Reliability: 1
    Fuel Economy: 4 Exterior Design: 7

    Vehicle
    2008 Land Rover LR2 SE 4dr SUV AWD (3.2L 6cyl 6A)
    Review
    I bought this car and have had nothing but major saftey issue. It just died on me while I was driving before I had driven it 2000 miles. It got towed to the dealership and they had a software update for it. I then took it back and then less then a week, it died again. The tech at Land rover told me it was a "docking of the key" problem and it loses communicaton with the fuel line! No fix out there for this computer- key problem and yes there are getting more complaints about this issue. As of right now, I am not getting into this car.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Never heard of it. Sounds like BS to me.
  • ronxlr2ronxlr2 Member Posts: 46
    nah, I can vouch for this, it's a real problem... My LR2 had this problem -- happened quite a few times. The first time, I was leaving the grocery store and pulled up to first stoplight. When it turned green, I pulled up and was turning left through the intersection. Halfway through the intersection, my LR2 started stalling like I was out of gas even though I had more than a half tank. Luckily, there was a parking lot right past the intersection because my car cut off completely and the steering wheel locked up. I was able to force the steering wheel over enough to just make it into the parking lot. When I restarted the car, everything worked fine again. Since then, it has happened about 5 or 6 more times, but each time i have noticed it as soon as I crank it up. I think it has something to do with pushing the start button quickly as you're inserting the key.

    When I took my car in for the 7,500 mile service, they did some sort of recall software update that had to do with the ignition, so I'm assuming that's what they were fixing. I haven't had that problem since my service.

    That said, I still have my radio no-sound issue that LR is finally "aware of" and their engineers are working on a software update to fix it. I need to check my notes -- I am probably pretty close to, if not already qualified for, Lemon Law status. If that's the case, I'll give them one final chance to fix it during a non-scheduled visit. If they don't have a fix for it yet, I may get them to buy it back from me and take my money to BMW. I never had these kinds of problems with my 330Ci, and I was always treated like gold by their customer service department. LR service managers are usually nice, but nowhere near as pleasant and accommodating as BMW service managers.

    The ONLY thing that might keep me from pushing the Lemon Law case is that the LR2 has absolutely the BEST sounding sound system of any vehicle I have ever owned. I've had high-end aftermarket systems that can't hold a candle to this system. Even the upgraded, 10-speaker Harmon Kardon system in my 330 wasn't nearly as clear through the spectrum when I crank the tunes as my LR2 system.

    But then again, the LR2 system isn't much good when it doesn't work... we'll see.

    Rob
  • tredferntredfern Member Posts: 20
    Does anyone know, Will there be LR2 2009 model . Didn't people start ordering 2008's last year at this time? Just wondering if they will have them, what will change??
  • verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,286
    Read back a few posts. All your questions have been answered recently :shades:
  • tredferntredfern Member Posts: 20
    Don't know what you are talking about, I don't see any answer to my question....
    No more SE's, I see that,
    Again, my question is, will there be ANY LR2 , 2009 model?????????? If so, what will the changes be from the 2008 SE or HSE????
    around this time last year people were ordering the 2008 which came out here in April....
  • muddyymuddyy Member Posts: 60
    As far as I know the SE's on the lot now are in effect 08's. The new HSE's coming in now are 08's and if you order a new SE for next year it will be an 08 also. It's too soon for any info on 09. Although I must admit, when I called my dealer to talk about the available SE's and the coming HSE's and the future SE's he had a hard time keeping track of the release dates and the model year.
  • lrguy44lrguy44 Member Posts: 2,197
    True. To be labeled a 2009 it must have been maufactured after 1 Jan 08. You will see 09s in August of 08.
  • arcaneonearcaneone Member Posts: 3
    We drove an LR2 today and liked it better than we did after driving its competitors (RDX, X3, Vue). But the reliability issues are a real concern. We don't want to buy a car that has a better than average chance of having operational problems.

    Basically, my question for the forum here is: how statistically significant are the problems reported here (and in the other LR2 fora that I've checked)? I don't discount that a sudden ignition failure is potentially catastrophic, but I wonder if there is a reliable source for the number of incidents.
  • verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,286
    and if you order a new SE for next year it will be an 08 also

    You can no longer order an SE. They are only bringing HSEs from now on.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Problems reported in a forum have zero statistically significance. Your sample size isn't correct and most importantly it is more likely that someone with problems would go find some place to vent, seek advice, etc. then someone with no problems would come to a forum and praise the car.

    We haven't had any LR2s with this supposed ignition problem at all. I almost wonder if something isn't getting lost in translation and this is really just the high tension fuel pump wire problem. We had a couple of cars with that problem but we caught all of them before they were delivered to a customer. What was happening was that on some cars the power wires to the fuel pump were routed in a way that caused them to be pulled taught in certain situations. When this happened it made the pump get confused and it thought you were out of gas. The pump shut it self off and then the engine died. You could restart the car a couple of minutes later and if the vibration of the pump and/or the vibration of starting the car had loosened the wire then the problem would not come back at least not right away.

    We have had a couple of LR2s with the radio shutting off but the software updates fixed them.
  • tredferntredfern Member Posts: 20
    I thought it was last year at this time that people were ordering the 2008 LR2 that came out in April, so my question was, when will the 2009 models be announced...do they not have a regular schedule & do them at the same time each year...I was wondering if there will even be a 2009 LR2 & what the changes would be, would like to know this before I buy a 2008...I know the SE's are discontinued. Thanks.
  • lrguy44lrguy44 Member Posts: 2,197
    As I said before, the 2009 model will be coming next July or August (which is now our entire annual change over) and will have little if any change from the 2008 HSE
  • schottschott Member Posts: 4
    I was ready to get a fully loaded LR2, but really want to use it with my Cingular PDA -8125 by HTC, or another newer Cingular PDA with the Windows Mobile Operating System. I tried to set up my phone as described by looney loey. My phone is also and HTC Wizard and the only difference seemed to be that his was one from T-Mobile. At first it seemd that the pairing worked. However, there were certain problems.

    1. If I dialed direct from the car I couldn't hear the phone ring and had a difficult time knowing if someone picked up the call. However, if I called using the voice dialing on my phone, I could hear the phone ring.
    2. Once I turned off the car the phone would not work and the push button start does not have an accesory capability. So, to use the phone it seemed that the car engine needs to be on.
    3. After the car was turned off, and I tried to access any feature like the phone book, last numbers dialed, etc., I would get a Please Wait... message, that lasted forever and wouldn't work.
    4. It seemed that to use the phone I needed to pair my cell phone with the car WHENEVER I turned off the car. To pair the phone takes a few minutes and is annoying if needed every time.

    I spent nearly two hours fooling around with the LR2's Bluetooth and became very frusted with using it. I wonder if looney loey had any of these or other problems, or if anyone else trying to pair up a similar PDA phone to the LR2 has had these issues. Please let me know if there is a work around or patch.

    Without having some assurance this screwed up Bluetooth Phone from Alpine in the LR2 will work with a PDA phone, I can't see wasting a few grand for the Technology pacakge. Instead, I'd need to consider an aftermarket product from Pioner, Dual, TomTom, Magellan... I can't find an in dash product, but there's always the portable window mounts. If anyone has added a Bluetooth device to their LR2 for a Windows PDA phone, please let me know!
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    how statistically significant are the problems reported here

    It is not statistically insignificant if the problem happens with your vehicle! :)

    In terms of statistical polling, the sample size matters, as Brit pointed out. Also, the randomness of the sampling is prerequisite for valid polling and should be kept in mind when reading Forums messages.

    Yes, people who experience a problem are more likely than those without the problem to report it since they are oftentimes looking for solutions or seeking commiseration. However, message boards are not formal polls and somewhat different principles apply. A major distinction is that a person reporting a problem receives instant feedback from other owners of a given model. The ensuing discussion frequently does put the problem into proper perspective. Brit himself just provided an example of that.

    Then there is what may be termed "poll fusion" whereby the reporting of a problem prompts others to contribute more extensive "polling data" such as "My mechanic works with these cars all the time and tells me that the problem is rare/common ..."

    Finally, a report about a particular problem will sometimes prompt others to jump in and corroborate the original report with their own experience. These are people who, for whatever reason, would not otherwise post a message in a Forum but find some comfort in knowing that they are not alone. I have lost count of the number of messages I have seen posted where someone proclaims "I thought I was the only one with such and such trouble ...."

    So, while it is rather difficult to assign a number to "statistical significance" related to a problem disclosed in a Forum, it is possible to get some sense of it by paying attention to the discussion in its entirety.

    tidester, host
    SUVs and Smart Shopper
  • ohwell159ohwell159 Member Posts: 11
    Okay, I am one of those very outspoken people. I waited a month (1500 miles) to post my opinion on my 2008 LR2. Ebony as she is called is black with tan interior and has all 3 options. I love the car the only issues I have - I wish the lighting on the instrument panel and the radio were brighter. I have had a very hard time finding a comfortable seat position. I sometimes find that my foot/leg gets tired from pressing the gas. I wish the bottom of the seat could go up and down as well as tilt forward and backward (if that makes sense). I bet the new HSE will correct this problem. Lastly I do find the wires in the windshield a little annoying. When I first read the post about them I did not know what they were talking about, but when I drove my new car home I noticed it immediately. I have gotten somewhat use to it now, but I definately do notice it when the sun is shining brightly and at night when the headlights from oncoming vehicles hit it. I haven't had the dis-pleasure of needing the heated windshield yet, maybe when I do my appreciation will outweigh the annoyance. I have not had ANY problems with my car and I do love her. I was a bit concerned about buying a LandRover because of all that I had read about issues, but I am glad I did. The dealership where I got mine is wonderful and have taken great care of me.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    PDA phones and smart phones can be very troublesome with the bluetooth system. It almost seems like the phone has too much stuff going on so it gets confused.

    RIM came out with a patch that makes their phones work much better with the Land Rovers and Treo did something similar a year or so ago. If enough people use your phone eventually someone will come up with a patch to make it work better. If not well then you might be better off buying a more simple bluetooth capable phone just to use in the car.

    EDIT:

    There is accessory power with the LR2. Just press and hold the start/stop button for a couple of seconds without having your foot on the brake.
  • u2fan1967u2fan1967 Member Posts: 19
    hi WWYD,
    To put it simply, there is no relieable source for statistics yet. Its still too early. Next year, I'm sure Edmunds and Consumer reports will have numbers. But should you let that hold you back from a vehicle you like and fits your needs? I don't think so.

    A few points to keep in mind: every vehicle in the world has issues. Especially in its first model year. And as you have seen, most folks on these boards post issues/problems looking for resolution. Thats human nature. But that is so few and far between. this vehicle is sold all over the world and considering how many have sold, the number of issues/problems I've seen are few and are between. That's my opinion. After 4000 miles and several months I have had absolutely no problems and my wife and I love it. We fight over who gets to drive it. The LR2 is an awesome vehicle. Volvo uses the same engine in its S80 and the terrain response system is also used by Volvo now, etc. etc.

    Statistics? Is it going to be at the level of say a Toyota highlander? no. But then again, who cares? Your covered by a full 4 year 50k mile bumper to bumper warranty with full maintenance included. How could you go wrong? You could buy a $100k Porche Carrera and have tons of problems (which have very high failure rates BTW).

    I have both a BS and MS in engineering and work in high tech and so by nature, I tend to over analyze everything and in this case it was an easy decision. Don't get stuck in "Analysis paralysis" worrying about failure rates, etc.
  • vinnieg1vinnieg1 Member Posts: 53
    In the first year these are normal and Land Rover is taking care of these problems with software, loaner cars, etc. No hassle. Buy a Ford or Chevy and find out how they treat you.
    If you researched the LR2 you know it was built an is a balanced vehicle, not too soft like Lexux, not to hard like BMW and better off road capability. Once you get used to the racaro seats they are great. A car can not be everything to everyone but the LR@ fits us perfectly.
    Every car can be nit picked. Go with your heart.
    If you love it buy it.
    It is a great car.
  • verdugoverdugo Member Posts: 2,286
    the terrain response system is also used by Volvo now

    Small correction. The terrain response system is unique to Land Rover. What they share is the AWD system. It's made by Hladex from Sweden. The Haldex AWD system is used by several manufacturers and is considered to be very good.
  • tredferntredfern Member Posts: 20
    Hi u2fan1967,
    Just want to Thank You for the "advice"...you make great sense. It is the vehicle I want. There is not an LR2 in my town or anywhere around, have never seen one on the road, that is one thing I like about it. I, too, over analyze everything, especially this, for many personal reasons I will not go into here, but my greatest concern is that it is a 5 hour round trip, to & from, the closest dealership...so if I were to get one with problems it would really be a lot of trouble, time, etc, if I was closer to one I would not be so worried about it.....all of the "basic" (chevy, ford, dodge, toyota, etc.)are in my town...anyway, as you said there is a 50,000 mile warranty, etc....I can't seem to convince myself not to get one know matter how many "cons" there are...I may wait a while longer to see if I can get a good deal on the HSE, want the Satellite radio, not expensive tech pkg.....wish they would throw in the towing pkg, & tinted front windows & sunroof.....wish you could make a deal on one for me.... but Thank You again for your valuable opinion. It has helped me.
  • arcaneonearcaneone Member Posts: 3
    Yes, thanks to all who responded.

    I generally wait a year to buy a new model (but did not when buying my Mini, and that was a good experience).

    It is now down to the LR2 and the X3. Decision time.
  • yed19yed19 Member Posts: 15
    arcaneone,

    We just put some money down to hold a HSE stornoway grey with ebony with all three packages last weekend that will be delivered in a a week and a half. Whats funny is that we (my wife and I) came up with the same two choices.

    We came to the decision to go with the LR2 for a few reason...

    The automoatic transmission on the X3 seemed to have hesitation from 2nd to 3rd gear (something I experienced while test driving it, but didn;t think too much about). After looking on the X3 forum, I noticed that there were people mentioning that it was an issue and that even after the supposid "fix", it was still very apparent. Considering my wife will do the majority of driving with this car in traffic (1 hour each way every day to work), a hesitation and therfore a jerky ride didn;t seem to mesh well with my wife.

    The X3 with the same features (navigation, adaptive lighting, cold-climate package would end up being around 12K more (or something like that). Couldn't see a huge excuse to buying it over the LR2.

    The only outstanding questions I have about the LR2 is the "heresay" about Land Rovers always breaking down... An image I think they are trying to fix with this car. You might equate this behavior to that of the Jack-in-the-box/e.coli issues of a decade (or-so) ago. After the lawsuits were settled and new process' put in place by JITB, you could estimate that JITB was probably the safest fast-food place to eat after that. i am hoping the same thing is happening with Land Rovers new LR2.

    I am also hoping and have seen that the HSE corrects a few small issues that the SE trim level had with it:

    Dirty back window all the time: Fixed by "fin" on top of window to keep airflow and water from getting on the window

    No Comparment in center consol: New small slider can conceal small object in center consol

    Software issues are probably fixed on a newer model

    And even though we could have gotten x-pricing on a SE, we bargained $500 off the HSE as they wanted to make our decision "easier".

    ha.

    Anywas, hpoe this helps
  • arcaneonearcaneone Member Posts: 3
    Going to do a couple more longer drives, in the daytime, hopefully this weekend but maybe over the T'day break. No particular hurry, and want my best friend/spouse to own the decision too.

    I'll post.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,410
    Live yet, but I dig the styling of the LR2 HSE!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • ohwell159ohwell159 Member Posts: 11
    Maybe I am crazy but does the does the rear wiper have just 2 settings? On or off.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Yes
  • ohwell159ohwell159 Member Posts: 11
    I am shocked. I drove in some serious rain yesterday and I could not have asked for anything more as far as handling. I use to have a Jeep Liberty and always hated the way it handled in the rain. My LR2 made me feel so safe and steady on the reoad. . I was impressed. The only problem was I could not see out my rear window. I am shocked. You can buy a $20,000.00 car that has at least Hi and Lo. As far as I am concerned it is a safety hazard. I will be contacting Land Rover directly to discuss it. How did they overlook such a feature on a car that brags about it's off road capabilities. I love my care but had I driven in yesterdays rain for my test drive I would have had to pass. On another subject, can the key fob be set to chirp when I lock or unlock??
  • serranotserranot Member Posts: 113
    I've never seen a car that had hi/lo on the rear wiper, and I can't imagine that this is a deal breaker. Seriously? Name one that has two settings.
  • ohwell159ohwell159 Member Posts: 11
    My Jeep Liberty. It would not be such an issue if the swipe interval was 2-3 seconds but 6 seconds is too long. I have already contacted Land Rover to inform them of this safety issue. Come on, I have wires running thru my windows to de-ice them, but I can't see out my rear view window in the rain. I can't be the only one that thinks this is an issue. Do not get me wrong I love my new car. I think it is natural for people to discuss the issues they have. If they have no issues than they probably are not going to come to this site and post.
  • serranotserranot Member Posts: 113
    Clearly, this is a personal preference issue. However, I am having a hard time envisioning how a 6-second wipe of the rear window is a serious safety issue. I do not know of anyone, myself included, who believes that it is necessary to have the rear window absolutely clear at all times. I am not saying that it wouldn't be better if it was clear all the time, but this issue does not even blip me.

    I can recall times when I wished that my Trooper rear wiper worked constantly like the front. However, I never thought for a minute that my safety was in jeopardy because of it.

    My guess is that Land Rover will acknowledge politely, but this is not really any different than most other vehicles.

    My $0.02.

    Regards,
    Tom
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    First I don't think it is actually as long as six seconds. Some where in one of the tech manuals it lists the delay time and I don't think it is six seconds.

    Second, why do you need to see crystal clear behind you every six seconds? Even if the rain is pouring down you will be able to see shapes and lights behind you which is all you really need to see.You can tell if a vehicle is behind you even with the rear window completely covered in water. You might not be able to tell what kind of car it is but you can tell it is a car.

    This is probably the second stupidest complaint I have ever heard regarding Land Rovers.
  • ohwell159ohwell159 Member Posts: 11
    Well, I guess I touched some nerves. I have had my LR2 for a month and a half and 2000 miles. I am speaking from experience. I drove in a bad rain storm and I couldn't see out the rear window well enough to feel safe. And trust me the delay is 6 seconds. I am not discussing the cup holders, or cubby or the color of the interior I am discussing something that I have experienced that I feel is a design flaw. You can't tell me that no one else out there has had my same experience. I thought this site was to share experiences such as this. If this sight is for a couple of Land Rover employees to make potential/current owners feel GOOD about their upcoming or current purchase than I am not interested. Check the posts I think you will find a lot of complaints that are more trivial and stupid than mine.
  • matrsoskinmatrsoskin Member Posts: 32
    I completely agree with ohwell159: slow rear wiper cold be a real problem not only during a heavy rain but also during wet/dry snow when it melts on the road and white de-icing slush mix covers the entire vehicle thus leaving a hard to remove film on the windshield and rear window.
    I strongly disagree with british_rover: discussing Bluetooth connectivity problems in LR2 and LR3 with such a passion and length is indeed the silliest complaint: who in the world would buy such vehicles to hold a conference call or talk to your clients while climbing rocks, going through the mud, or fording rivers. That was the main reason for purchasing such vehicle, wasn't it? Otherwise, jump into BMW, Lexus, or Acura.
    Matroskin
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    I didn't say it was the silliest I said it was the second silliest.
  • ichabodichabod Member Posts: 1
    How can it be that the LR2 did NOT make it onto the winner's list for the just released Insurance Institute For Highway Safety "Top Safety Pick" awards? The X3, RDX, CR-V, Element, Forester and several other mid and small SUVs did. For a vehicle that appears so well-built (including the supposedly extra strong steel), and with the full assortment of advanced performance and safety features, it's curious the LR2 didn't make the cut.

    http://www.iihs.org/news/rss/pr111507.html
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    They probably didn't even test it.

    Too low of production and too new and its a Land Rover so they just ignore it. Look at the list of vehicles tested for Land Rover. They haven't tested ANY of the new Land Rovers. The Freelander was the last Land Rover they tested and that was a 2002 MY vehicle. The current Range Rover has been in the US for over five years now and does not have a single crash test listed for the US.

    The federal government crash test is the same they don't have any Land Rovers listed on their website that are still in production.

    Just go to the EURO NCAP website for crash test data. They are much more up to date then any of the US tests.

    LR2 crash test It was the first Small SUV to score five starts on the NCAP test. The VW Tiguan now has done it as well but the LR2 was the first.
  • serranotserranot Member Posts: 113
    The Bluetooth connectivity IS, in my opinion, a very relevant safety consideration. Ignoring for a moment whether talking hands-free really is safer than holding the phone to one's ear, the fact is is that people are going to talk on the phone. A lot of people. And if their phones are able to be used hands-free, the vehicle with such a design feature should meet specs to do that. There are IEEE standards established to preclude these incompatibility problems, and the vehicle should be able to work with them all, just like a USB connection or a network interface.

    People do not by LR2s to climb rocks, forge rivers, or go through the mud on the phone. They troll the pavement looking cool while commuting 98% of the time. And they do it while talking on the phone much of the time.

    Regards,
    Tom
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    Not all phone brands are going to work with all cars with bluetooth. There is just no way that is going to happen. A few years ago if you wanted a phone to be link with your car you had to buy a 1,000 dollar plus phone that would only work with that specific vehicle.

    Up until this year address books wouldn't upload to the car from the phone. There are tons of phones that work just fine with the LR2 and not all of the phone compatibility problems are Land Rovers fault some of them are problems with either the handset maker or the wireless provider.
  • andybl29andybl29 Member Posts: 8
    I use my sunroof a lot on my LR2, yesterday it stopped opening automatically and I wasn't able to get it reset. I tried the steps in the manual for recalibrating, it didn't work. Any suggestions other then taking into my dealer--getin a little tired of taking it in (just had it in last week to get fluids rechecked after a half-a** 1st service). Anyone with a similar issue w/ sunroof, I'd like to hear how you fixed. Thanks.
  • roveretteroverette Member Posts: 6
    Sorry, but the rear wiper complaint is rather silly, imho. Passenger cars do not even have rear wipers and people who drive them seem to be able to travel around in inclement weather just fine. Having a rear wiper is a nice bonus and I don't think the delay is 6 seconds. :surprise:
  • ohwell159ohwell159 Member Posts: 11
    Did you think I didn't research this before I posted. Page 82 of the LR2 Owners Handbook, "The wipe interval is set to six seconds". The problem is that when you do not use the wipers the rain sheets off differently than when the wiper is on. I guess the solution is to not use the rear wipers at all in heavy rain. I'm sorry this is a design flaw and a safety issue if you live anywhere except the desert. I am done with the wiper discussion. Whether you agree or disagree I have experiences the problem 1st hand.
  • muellerfilmmuellerfilm Member Posts: 10
    My sunroof stopped working also and like you I used it a lot There are no repairable parts on the sunroof they replace the whole thing if there is a problem. The whole glass parts on top of the LR2 the sliding part and the non sliding parts are replaced. And if you need to have it done it is a big job. My LR2 was at the dealer for one month. Three weeks to get the part and one week to put it in. It is glued and bolted in and the whole top headliner has to be removed and they cut through the glue with a wire saw and have to be extremely careful not to scratch the LR2. My LR2 came through the experience perfectly and since I have had no trouble. The part is made by a subcontractor and I am not upset with Land Rover. My replacement roof is a lot quieter than the prievous sunroof when opening and closing. I was told that my new roof is an updated part. I have checked out other sunroofs at the dealer and none of the SE models are quiet like mine but the HSE are just as quiet as mine so the HSE LR2 must have the updated part my LR2 is a SE.
  • yed19yed19 Member Posts: 15
    What I find kinda funny about the rear windshield wiper complaint is that it seems as though LR may have already fixed the issue and noone realizes it. The HSE has a spoiler on top of the back window that will probably reduce the amount of water coming down the windshield anyway and divert it away from window itself.

    While I am sure the window will get water on it, the rate may be reduced to the point where the rear windshield wiper isn't such an ordeal anymore.

    Granted, I have not tested it out, but seems like a logical rate limiter for water as it diverts water away from the windshield and it just drips off the spoiler.

    I would however argue that it is not a safety concern... Seeing out your back windshield can be important, but as most moving trucks tell us... not necessary with side mirrors. Especially heated ones (assuming CCP package).

    This obviously sounds like nick picking and that is only a good thing when you start thinking about what people are complaining about. Unless your in Seattle (or simlilar) where it rains/drizzles the whole winter... is this really a big deal? I live in Seattle and could really care less about the rear window wiper. Granted, we are getting the HSE in a week... :)
  • andybl29andybl29 Member Posts: 8
    Thanks for your info. I just found out today that my sunroof needs to be replaced totally, like yours. This is really annoying, as the sunroof is on backorder (my dealer said this has shown to be a common problem with the LR2). I am going to take my truck until the replacement is in, I don't want it sitting indefinitely at my dealer. What a darn pain!! I'm hoping I have the same result as you--as quieter roof overall and no damage to the vehicle!! I will update whenever the work gets done.
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