Toyota Yaris Lease Questions
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Hi everyone. Please use the following discussion to post any questions that you have about leasing a Toyota Yaris. Thanks.
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I wanted to get the MF and residuals for leasing a Yaris 2Dr Hatch AT, as well as the 4dr S level Sedan AT.
I'm in Houston, TX and would need a lease for 24mths, with 15,000 miles/year.
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New 2007 Yaris Hatchback, Automatic, ABS Brakes, Keyless Remote, Power Package, Floor Mats.
Here are the numbers:
MSRP: $12,335.
Max Advance Adjustments: $14,420.00
BaseValue MSRP: $11,850.00
Residual Value: (59%): $6,991.50
Residual Value Adjustments: $625.
Annual Miles: 12,000
Mileasge Adjustment: +2%= 237
Adjusted Residual Value: $7,853.50
CustomerCash Down: $1,000.00
Total Cash / Rebate Equity: $1,000.00
Inception Fees: $657.95
Excess Cash / Rebate / Equity: $342.05
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Selling Price: $14,420.00
Assignment Fee: $400.
Payment Recap:
36 months at $246.29 + 9.00% = $268.45
?? Is this a good deal? Or are some of those line items "fluff" or inflated numbers that I can negotiate out or reduce.
Looking forward to your reply,
Yourfuture Yaris Slave Girl
I calculated the power package combo you selected (w/ABS) at $1,700 - price of $14,420 - 620 delivery - 11,950 Yaris Auto - 150 floor mats). I don't know if that is the right price for that combo package, can't find it on Toyota's site (haven't guessed the right zip code yet).
Some good info on leasing can be found at:
www.leaseguide.com, www.carbuyingtips.com, and www.fightingchance.com. The Fighting Chance folks will sell you a service for $35 that includes their help on the phone (bring your cell) while you are at the dealer reviewing the paperwork, they will tell you what money factor and residual you should be getting.
If you want an Excel sheet to try out different numbers, try the worksheet at www.carbuyingtips.com/regm.xls.
I've plugged these numbers into my spreadsheet:
Cap Cost: $14,420
Lease Acquisition: $400
Gross Cap Cost: $14,820
Lessee Cap Reduction: $342.05
Residual: $7.853.50 (which is 55.3% of $14,420)
Term: 36 months
Money Factor: .00279 (equivalent to about 6.7% APR)
Monthly Payment (before tax): 246.32
So, your payment of $246.29 looks about right.
But if you really were to get a residual of 59% - 8507.80 (I don't have the black book of residuals, and it's kind of a guess anyway), you would have a monthly payment (before tax) of $229.97. Might be worth finding out what the Yaris 3 year residual rate is (not public knowledge).
I assume your 9.0% is your sales tax rate.
Remember that when you lease a car you pay the 1st month's payment and title fees up front. Also, you pay sales tax on any cap reduction ("down payment") you make.
But, what about the $1,000? What is in that? Well, it includes your cap reduction ("down payment"), the first payment (including sales tax), estimated registration/title fees and security deposit. Lets assume registration fees of $200, I come up with out-of-pocket of about $841 (342.50 cap reduction, 30.78 sales tax on cap reduction, 1st payment of 268.45 and registration of 200). So the dealer is adding on "fluff" fees of about $160 (or more, depending on what registration fees are).
Sorry for the long note - but a lot of dealers mess around with little charges here and there and will lie to your face about it being a state fee, or this or that, especially with leases, since they don't have to disclose the money factor and residuals are hard to get.
Good luck.
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