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Appreciate your response!
I'm also dealing with a few local dealers around the beltway and $10K off would seem hopeful. I These posts regarding margins and what a dealer should make and not make are irrelevant. If any dealer is offering a discount, then it creates competition and a dealer can choose whether to compete or not compete. What they make isn't my business (but based on how lavish these dealerships are now, I'm guessing they aren't hurting)
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Wilmer
One side note about the price: in Europe they add VAT (value added tax) to that price but I didn't include those numbers cause it would just confuse everybody. A car that sells for 50K USD in the US would sell for about 50K Euro + VAT in Europe. Prices and Taxes are much bigger here!
But the point is that you can get about 10K off on 2012 GLs because it is the end of the x164 platform.
For what its worth, its a fantastic car.
Thanks for sharing. What was the MSRP on your car? What was the actual purchase price?
I ask because the amount off depends on the base price...and proper comparisons can only be made when we know the base price. This way we can calcuate the % discount. So a 9K discount might be a 10% or a 7% discount.
Glad to hear from you as I am in the market and keen to get a good deal. Thanks so much!
Do you think it makes sense to wait for the new 2013?
What changes are planned for the 2013?
Thanks!
Why not to buy 2012 gl: redesign will make u obsolete, gadgets suck, end of life purchases are not sexy
Reality if you wait for 2013 gl: no/insignificant discount on MSRP, redesign is questionable but newness factor is cool, gadget will be much better, reliability is a question mark if you look at luxury car redesign history
Who should look at 2012 gl: if mercedes gl MSRP is at the high end of you price range (10k discount is big), the 2012 is a great if not so sexy deal. Comfort, quality and safety is unmatched
Who should wait for 2013 gl: if money isnt a big issue then you will be far more satisfied, but not in the practical areas.
As for discounts I am only getting about a 9% discount off MSRP from dealers I talk to. Approximately $6K on a 71K car. Any tips on how to get the larger 10K disocunt i.e. 14% discount. I am in the US and so far no luck at getting any thing close to the 10K/14-15% discount you mention.
Thanks again.
If you want the larger (10k) discount i can recommend a number of approaches. First off is use patience to your advantage. They need to move the 2012s and the more you wait the more likely they will crack. Also, use the fact that factory orders are no longer possible to your advantage. Multiple visits to dealer help. The more time dealer spends with you, the more they will feel the psychological need to make a deal. Wait them out. Second shop around with multiple dealers and tell them the price at which you are ready to make a deal. Somebody will crack with prospect of having leftover inventory. Also, consider that they try to make money back on service so use that to your advantage.
I am convinced that you can get the 10k discount with a little patience and leg work. I'm not normally a tough negotiator, i actually hate it. However the prospective 2012 gl buyer is probably trying to buy a bit over their price comfort range so the discount is paramount. If money isnt an issue then wait for 2013...nothing better than being early driver of relatively rare model.
I negotiated my butt off for the final 2.5 k of my discount. I walked away. I came back. I told them i was going to buy a q7 or lr4. I played it cool and let them re-engage me. Bottom line, if you consider that this car is priced much higher than it should be, and that the decision to purchase is more emotional than rational, then dont be asamed to play hardball.
You will love the car so if you want to steal a mercedes on the cheap then this is your chance
Thanks again!
Thanks.
so for a 70K car, the true dealer cost is about 63K which is just 7K below MSRP. So if people are getting cars at 10K below invoice, does that mean the dealer is selling it at a 3K loss...or am I missing something.
I have found this forum very helpful. Though I would contribute as well (if it helps others).
Black/Black MB-Text interior
Options: Premium 1, Parktronic, Blind spot assist, rear entertainemnt system, heated steering, side board with illumination kit
MSRP $72,350, and dealer offerd $65,000.
Is this a good deal? Any thoughts?
BTW: I just want to offer 60K + 1999 Nissan Altima (valued at $2300 trade in).
I suspect that you can push for the $60K (or lower) as MB just introduced the completely revamped 2013 GL class which should be on dealers' lots in September...a mere 5 months from now.
My two rupees.
64,800 (sale price) - 1500 (FEP discount).
Thats the best I could get for BlueTEC.
Can any onne comment on howmuch in total they spend on maintenance?
Thanks
Thanks,
I've seen a lot of great posts about individuals purchasing a GL450 for 10-13% or even more below MSRP.
I'm curious on the breakdown between what makes up that discount? How much of the discount was from pure negotiation? From a conquest program? A cash incentive? A corporate partnership discount? Etc...
As an example, I'm looking at a 2013 GL450 (either finance or lease depending on terms). I have a corporate partnership program that gives me a $3,000 incentive. I can also include any cash or lease incentives available. The MSRP on the GL450 built through MBusa.com with the options is right at $74,000. I also drive a cadillac which may provide me with an additional incentive with the conquest program if they offer it (I've heard $3,000 is the number) for a trade-in.
This would be helpful in knowing how to approach the negoations!
Thank you in advance
What I want to do is go to the fleet manager and have a custom order of exactly what I want so they have an immediate turn around on that inventory. I just don't know how aggressive to be in negotiating. I doubt the posters here have gotten 13%+ discount on MSRP purely by negotiating before other incentives.. but I'd like to know how close to or below invoice you can get before other incentives.
If you can get 13%+ on a custom order, redesigned model, there must be something serious wrong with this redesign then.
I would say the maintenance isn't worth it, but bear with me.
Your schedule would be every 10k miles or so. $199 for one, $299 for the other. Depending on if you're getting a 350, you have to consider paying for the additive which can be another 200 every SECOND service. So, if you drive about 12k a year, you're looking at about average 700 every TWO years or so.
That's only $1400 over 4 years, maybe a bit more. There's really no other maintenance that I've had to do, other than purchase tires (they wear pretty fast at around 27,000 or so).
IF it includes brakes, you may want to consider it, as my brakes are about ready to be serviced (I'm at 40k miles). I guess that would account for that extra $1000 in maintenance...
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We just got a 2013 450 for invoice but had to agree to a money factor of .0021 (vs. their buy rate of .0016). Residual for 48 months with 12k per year was 54%.
We are also getting the 2013 550, this one for 1% over invoice - it had to be ordered, so we got exactly what we wanted but won't get the car until April.
P2, MB Tex, DVD entertainment system, Blind spot assist, Running boards..etc.
Not sure if 30 HP more in 2013 Gl350..would make much difference?
Budget wise..this looks like a good deal.
Worthy it?
Thanks.