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There are some websites you can visit that will give you the tips and techniques -
I'm so curious why it is that my computer readout CONSISTENTLY shows me a number that is 1 MPG higher than my calculated MPG, yet everyone else here is reporting that their computer actually UNDER-reports their mileage. Maybe mine is defective or something.....
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Do you have a 2012 LE as well? If so, what color?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
for today's fillup - onboard mpg: 35.4
manual mpg: 36.4
filled up today:
Onboard MPG computer: 35.7
Manual calculation: 38.1
Tires: 37 psi
I've been trying to accelerate gently since the car is new and it's still getting "broken in" - or is it? I remember the new car sales director at the dealership telling me the engines on new cars are broken in at the factory these days - I have also been coasting on occasion, (when feasible) when I see a red light up ahead...
Is 40 mpg a possibility?! I don't know, but 38 mpg for an automatic car that's a non-hybrid is pretty impressive if you ask me.
BTW, Intellichoice.com gave the 2012 Yaris LE it's highest rating (excellent) and it got 6 awards - I believe one was for fuel economy
Per mpg car's computer: 35.9
Per manual calculation: 36.4
Still pretty good though!
Onboard mpg computer: 35.9
My calculation: 35.4
Well, it looks like 38.1 mpg isn't going to happen again, 35.4 still pretty impressive though - perhaps the decrease in mpg is due to my driving technique, I'm probably not as "cautious" or "gentle" now that I've got over 3,200 miles on the odometer (well past the break-in period) - that plus using the A/C so much due to the warmer weather -
Seems like the switch to summer blend has improved the mileage a bit even though I am now using the A/C a lot of the time.
5-speed SE
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
So far the lowest city mpg has been 33, highest 38.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
So far the Yaris has delivered on the mpg and then some!
I'm using the A/C most of the time now, so that seems OK. Still going for a 40 at some point, one of these days. ;-)
5-speed SE
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
per car's mpg computer: 35.9
per manual calculation: 36.1
I'm also using the A/C alot lately. This is almost all city-driving.
I am going to try and focus a little more on better mileage for the next tank and see how that goes...2012 SE 5-speed.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Last tank, 33.7 mpg - all city driving -
Still higher than sticker for city driving, I'm attributing it to using the AC all the time -
Highest I got was 38 mpg -
My non-commute driving is mostly highway driving however.
The best tankful mpg I ever had so far was 41 mpg in mostly highway driving, cruise set at 65 with some passing at 75, A/C use half the time.
The Echo I had before this car could easily get 45-46 mpg in the same circumstances, but it also handled like a wet sponge so I will take the fuel economy hit in exchange for the much better tires and suspension of the Yaris. ;-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
By shaving 3 mph off my typical speed on the highway and coasting as often as possible, I got the mpg up to 41 for the last couple of tankfuls. Rather gratifying given that I was stuck in traffic on the way to work more often than usual.
This thing really loves coasting - it is the best single thing to boost mileage significantly. But reducing highway speeds by 5% is a close second. Other stuff like avoiding rapid acceleration away from lights and such doesn't seem to help as much.
2012 SE 5-speed
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Example: At 60 mph the wind resistance is 3600(A).
At 70 mph, it is 4900(A). ("A" is the frontal area of the vehicle).
There is also some tire resistance reduction at lower speed.
I agree about the gear thing. Certainly "seems" that slowing the engine a bit at highway speeds would help economy.
Strangly, while other manufacturers have 5,6 and even 8 speed trannies,
Toyota Still uses a 4 speed auto in many of its 4 cylinder cars.
Me thinks the Yaris and Scion are really geared more toward town, city and commuting in traffic, rather than highway use. Same would be true for the Honda Fit.
Other forums indicate that the Corolla and Civic get near the same mileage on the highway as the above 3. Even though they have larger engines, more frontal area and are heavier. :confuse:
Hatchbacks will always be less aerodynamic than sedans which is why Corolla/Civic get the edge there. From what I understand, the hatchback impact is compounded the shorter (less long) the car is, which also works against Yaris, Fit, Etc.
I am thinking of renting a Prius C Five for a week, which is basically a Yaris SE with a hybrid powertrain (the steering and suspension supposedly come over intact from the Yaris SE to the Prius C Five trim with the 16" wheel package) to see (a) how much better mpg I get with my driving pattern, and (b) how much slower and all-around less fun to drive it is. If the MPG is a lot better and the CVT doesn't drone enough to put me in a bad mood, I may trade the Yaris for the Prius.
However, I suspect that with my driving pattern (70/30 highway/city), it will only manage 45 MPG or so. If I could get a solid 50 and it wasn't achingly slow I would consider the switch. Even then I would only be thinking about switching because the no-action gas pedal in the Yaris (for the first couple inches of pedal travel, the engine doesn't rev at all. Even after that it revs so slowly that timing the gear shifts can be challenging, and I have driven a stick for 25 years) makes it such a pain to drive.
Or maybe the new Golf GTD is for me....TDI fans say they can get mid-40s MPG in that car without really trying. I hear the new Fusion hybrid is rated 47/47, but that's a bigger car.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2012 Yaris SE 5-speed
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
AND this is the first car I have owned with an onboard gas mileage calculator that was actually spot on, tank after tank, as I do the calculations to check it.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)