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I have driven a Lexus RX since 2001. The vehicle has over 100,000 miles and the only thing that required repair was the power antenna and that was under warranty. My experience is that Lexus is an extremely reliable well built, comfortable vehicle.
BYW I am a guy and do not consider it a ladies vehicle and besides, who cares.
Yes, I do know that Lexus are very reliable, after all, if a Toyota can last you over 100k miles then Lexus has to.
Well, the sales guy told me it's still consider a ladies car
Plus, I don't really see many guys driving the RX,
Btw, are you planning on getting the new RX?
Ever driven the x6? I have, it's great, but so are the problems.
Never looked at a BMW as I heard repair costs when out of warranty.
I would like to know what others are receiving for a discount on the 2010s
Wait and see, what new Lexus marketing support amount will be since the previous $5K offer expired March 2. I would guess, they may extend or even increase that amount. With more bad news coming every day and the stock market tumbling, it is not like people are rushing to buy a luxury car in this down economy. I would hold out and wait until you get the best offer that others are reporting in this forum. There is no reason to pay $2K-3K more than you should.
April 2009 edition of Motor Trend? It was a comparison between the 2010 Lexus 450h and the German diesel counterparts, i.e.,
BMW X5, Mercedes-Benz ML320 Bluetec and the Volkswagen
Touareg TDI.
After studying some of the varioius pictures, I have to say the
2010 RX looks pretty good, at least exterior-wise, against the other three models. It makes them look dated.
Also, it was stated that the BMW got stuck two or three times, "three times more than the Lexus or the VW." I believe I saw a picture somewhere else in the magazine where they had to tow the BMW to get it out of the muck and snow. The Lexus came in second behind the VW.
So while I've been on the fence as to the exterior styling of the 2010 RX, I was pleasantly surprised at how it looked compared to the other vehicles.
Dealerships have been calling me to come and look at their 09 RX350, most of them w/o NAV. The ones with NAV is at Prestige Lexus and after dealing with a rude/unprofessional salesperson, I decided to close the book on Lexus. That's until other dealerships start calling me on daily basis.
Today, another called for a black+tan 09 RX350 with few miles on it for $34,500 AWD w/o NAV. I would like to get a NAV system, but if they're giving it to me at a really good price (say $30k), I'll get an after market NAV like Tomtom or something like that. What do you guys think? I honestly don't think that they'll take $30k. This is not my first vehicle of choice. My preference is 09 MDX with Tech/Sport package and I'm in no rush to get either one, as long as I get the best deal.
I really appreciate your help.
I went there last weekend and they were trying to sell me the '08 RX400h as opposed to the '09 RX350 with NAV (that they no longer have). The internet salesperson told me that the price of the RX400h would be around the same as the RX350 with NAV which she confirmed to be around $37k. We showed up, test drove the car.... and then they showed us the bill that was around $40k. In which world $37k is similar or around $40k?
Yesterday, a different salesperson called me to offer me the same 09 RX350 that he claimed to be left over because the buyer backed out last weekend. The same vehicle was available as of last weekend and offered to us at $36k by a salesperson who tried to sell us the '08 400h.
X6 on the other hand looks very cramped in the back and with even less cargo space than rx. just from pics, it looks like rear passengers will have to duck their head when they sit.
if i had to choose, i'd pick the rx over x6.
The thing that got me is that even for a car with 1000 miles, they showed me the invoice that has wheel lock, premium pain, cargo mats+all weather mats, etc as a part of the MSRP. Then they discounted like around $10k from that price, and then compensate the 1000 miles for like additional $500. I truly feel like I'm being have. It's not a brand new car, so they can't count all these used wheel lock, premium paint, etc. Afteral, the car was used for a test drive, shouldn't all the knick knack be counted in depreciation of value?
I think I've had it.... I'm giving up on the 09 Lexus RX350 and switch my attention back to the MDX. I was hoping to get good deals on the RX, but I truly have no patience for haggling back and forth. I like RX, but it's lacking several features that exist in the MDX. With all the haggling for a car that hasn't been redesigned for years, I decided to hang my hat.
Thanks for the info though
with the rx 350 they just want to let go of the last one...did u happen to talk to the manager they can give it to u for like 32k. but if u give up its fine...
plus i dont know if they r going to have the 5 k dealer incentive for this month...
what features does the MDX have over the rx350? maybe i should start looking at the MDX as well...
Paid 5 percent over dealer invoice, which saved around $3250 off of the sticker.
Thanks again
After you have driven a bit, please share your thoughts with all of us. It certainly is a nice car and the nav-mouse is definitely unique.
Thank YOU!
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Vehicle Base Model: 38200.00 33043.00
Comfort Package 2000.00 1600.00
12 Speaker Prem Audio 110.00 88.00
Navigation 2400.00 2052.00
Premium Package 2400.00 2028.00
Tow Prep Package 238.00 190.00
Cargo Mats 92.00 55.00
Wheel Locks 81.00 51.00
Cross Bars 259.00 225.00
Remote Start 375.00 225.00
Glass Breakage Sensors 205.00 149.00
Total Accessories: 8530.00 6870.00
Destination Charge 825.00 825.00
TDA 573.00
Dealer Holdback 764.00
Whsl. Financial Reserve 382.00
Total: 47555.00 42457.00
Hope this helps!!
I have been reading here for a while, I have notice that no one is sharing their driving experiences about the new RX, they tell all about the price, msrp, and this and that, but no DRIVING EXPERIENCE!!! :confuse:
If you want to discuss driving characteristics, try here:
2010 Lexus RX
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Sounds like you got a great deal....that is barely over invoice. The 2010 RX just came out, so to get a deal like that is great. Congrats man!
The thing about 09 MDX that I like the most is the SH-AWD. It's one of the best. From what I read, RX350 has tons of problems with it's F/AWD (late production of 2009 and even get carried over to the 2010. I will post the posting that I found regarding this). Besides, MDX has one of the best Navigation system, and third row seating available. Many will try to say that the 3rd row seating is totally useless (for child and pets only), but it's better to have it then not.
The interior and exterior of RX350 have not been redesigned for years. It still has the tape deck audio system. And when I asked the salesperson why the tape deck and not the IPod, he said that because it was going to cost too much to redesign when the cars have been ordered for manufacturing years ago. Not sure if this is true or not, but I just feel that if I want to dump that much money for a car, it better be perfect and not outdated!
For the price around $38k, you can get a fully loaded MDX (Tech Package which include NAV + backup camera, reliable SH-AWD, redesigned exterior/interior in the color combo that you want, and not settle for whatever the Lexus dealership has). That's the way I look at it... It's a bit more if you want the one with the Sport Package. You should really test drive the car to see the difference between them two. I made a mistake of not doing enough research the last time I bought a car (06 Subaru Legacy Turbo 2.5GT Limited) and realized that I was had by the salesperson!!!! :mad: So, I will take my sweet time this time around to get something that I really want on my terms too.... The way that the economy is going, it's a buyer's market
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f14dd11/43
>> The 2010 RX350 (and the Toyota Venza) F/awd system was adopted from the Ford Escape/Mariner/Tribute design and is WORSE than the previous RX F/awd system by a WIDE measure.
>> The new 2010 RX350 F/awd system, like the Ford Escape, uses direct drive from the transaxle output to the rear driveshaft. At the end of the rear driveshaft a "linear" electric clutch is used to modulate, modify, the level of engine torque, 0-50%, delivered to the rear diff'l.
The functionality of Braking, ABS, VSC, EBD, etc, depends on the rear driveline being INSTANTLY decoupled upon activation of any of these "features", and that is the Lexus procedure.
The way I read the information the only time(s) the rear drive line will be automatically "coupled" is under HARD acceleration or with front wheelspin/slip arising from too much engine torque being used for road surface conditions. There is an intimation that OAT, COLD OAT will play a part in the level of torque automatically delivered to the rear drive line.
If the clutch is fully locked, as it can be up to 18MPH under driver pushbutton control, the driveline and tires will be forced to "absorb" any stress due to high roadbed traction. If the clutch is only partially closed/engaged then the clutch itself will be forced to absorb any undue driveline stresses, stressing.
The Ford manual WARNS that in this circumstance, linear clutch overheating, the system may go to FULL engagement or be disabled altogether and advises the driver that should this happen the procedure to follow is to pull over long enough for the rear linear clutch to cool off.
Toyota and Lexus have been notoriously lax with this type of advice so I suspect we will not see this CAUTION note in any Toyota or Lexus owners manual until maybe 2013.
While I am NOT a strong fan of the current RX's F/awd it can be made more functional than the new one. The current model uses a fully OPEN center diff'l that will allocate the engine drive torque 50/50 F/R just as long as both "ends" have equal, roughly equal, traction with the road surface.
The "secret" to making use of the current system is to assure that F/R roadbed traction is ALWAYS roughly EQUAL. I do that by installing all four tire chains in times of need.
The only option with the new system would be to "wire" the rear clutch fully closed and disable one of the front drive halfshafts. You would then have a RWD vehicle, ultimately more safe than the new F/awd RX350.
I have been seriously considering the purchase of a Mercury Mariner hybrid (now with VSC) and should I do so it would go immediately into the shop for a REMCO front halfshaft modification and I would "hot-wire" the rear clutch fully closed.
RWD but with part-time 4WD capability via manually engaging the REMCO halfshaft coupling device.
i guess i should go test drive the MDX. i've heard many good things, but acuras never really did anything for me. however, if it drives well, it maybe enough to convince me b/c I've already had my share of impulsive car shopping and i'm done - although i had lots of fun with those 2 impulsive buys.
i test drove the volvo XC90 this weekend and was pleasantly surprised. i actually test drove it to confirm i should cross it off my list, but instead it's back on the list.
also test drove the BMW X5 and was hoping i wouldn't like it soo much(i am biased towards bmw) and now that's definitely on the top of my list. can't beat that bmw-handling. but I can't see spending that much money on a new car so i may go used.
i did cross the cayenne off my list. test drove a cayenne base although the one I drove might've had issues. i guess i was looking for anything to cross it off my list - the maintenance is too costly.
i'm looking for a good quality vehicle at a very discounted price in this economy. a co-worker is also looking for a new subaru, but even subaru is not budging on price. i thought it was a buyer's car market too - what's the deal?! or should i say where are the deals in NJ?
i was actually in the market for a used vehicle and this lexus marketing support through me for a loop b/c of the big discount. unfortunately, i found out about it too late. warnock said they were sold out of the 09 RXs a couple weeks ago and didn't have to go anywhere near $11k under list.
i'll let you know how i like the MDX. maybe we can go in together and get a deal for two. thanks for posting that info on AWD.
I'm more familiar with BMWs and maintenance is included for first 4yrs/50,000mi. I thought it was included with a Lexus purchase as well, but from what I gathered from the service forum it isn't. Someone mentioned they pre-paid for maintenance... anyone recommend what a good price is and for how long are the contracts?
Can you tell us if Lexus has announced any favorable money factor or other incentive yet for the 2010 Lexus RX 350?
Thanks,
CanStacker
I suspect many are waiting for an incentive, but Lexus is probably going to wait to see how the new RX is selling, especdially since supplies are somewhat limited now..
where did you bought your RX350..may I have the Sale person name?
Thank you
They too have good incentives. And if you happen to like MDX, the best price around North Jersey is supposedly Acura of Ramsey. Somebody in the Acura forum was able to get a deal at $38500 (09 MDX with Tech Package) with 2.9 or 3.9% APR for 5 yrs. If you like the X5, you will be pleasantly surprised with the MDX. MDX rides totally differently than Lexus or BMW though. In my humble opinion, it's more sporty and rugged. Performance wise, it blows Lexus and BMW. And their electronic gadgets also blow their competitors. In terms of services, this is where I'm not too happy about. We went to several Acura dealerships to service our RL and they rarely have any loaners available. You have to make an appointment like at least 3 days in advance. HQ Customer Services follow up dilligently with most complaints though. A colleague owns a Lexus and he told me that Lexus' HQ Customer Care never follows up on complaints. Only on praises.... that's why they have "over the chart" customer satisfaction... hehehe....
Subaru isn't going to budge their prices. While other car manufacturers suffer, Hyundai and Subaru are actually doing very well in comparison. Please tell your coworker to stay away from Ramsey Subaru or any other Ramsey Auto Group (Acura of Ramsey is not a part of this group). They got sued and lost due to their unethical business practices, and still they scam at every possible opportunity. We got scammed and I would never forgive/forget it. Will find out the name of the salesperson and post it on ripoff.com. That should teach him a lesson... Subaru itself is not a bad car. It's a high performance car (at least mine is). But the electronic gadget is sooooo outdated.... HQ Customer care is somewhat descent, though you really have to make your case with them.
Anyway just my 2 cents. I'll never consider cayenne.... it's too much hassle, and not enough ROI. My Subaru has the same boxer engine... not sure how long it will last as this is the first time ever I own a subaru, but crossing my finger. :shades:
I was told this much for their demo with 3000 miles in it.
I have been looking at many Lexus dealer's web sites. And none seem to show their new inventory. They display used inventory. But no new.
Has anyone seen a Lexus dealer's web site that lists new inventory?
thanks
I would love to have your contact info at that dealership in Rockville, MD if you would be so kind. Thanks!
Are you sure about that 59% residual? That's actually a very favorable 3 year figure as most vehicles are now listed in the low 50% to high 40% range for 3-year residuals (typically based on 10K or 12K miles per year). Many manufacturers were bitten pretty hard with lease returns that had a market value well under the buyout price, so they reacted by reducing the residuals. A residual of 59% could save you about $80/month compared to a 52% residual for a new RX (using their standard .00275 money factor and guessing at a typical price). Then again, it is a 2010 model and it is still early 2009 on my calendar, so maybe that's figured into the 59% figure.