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Chrysler Pacifica Starting and Stalling Problems

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  • mcdon1mcdon1 Posts: 8
    Finally we got it fixed and have had no further problems :) It was faulty battery cables which were replaced. It was covered under our warranty. Every time we took it into the dealer they said they could not replicate the problem. Finally it went totally dead and was taken by flatbed to the dealer and then fixed. Very frustrating but not a problem now. Good Luck.
  • 300mguy1300mguy1 Posts: 6
    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.... Leased a new 05 limited AWD -- fully loaded -- everything except Nav -- its been in the shop ** 28 ** times!! New fuel pumps, new relays, new injector , new plugs, broken plugs, bad coil pack, etc etc etc -- last summer the check engine light would not go off (bad fuel),, they had to "clean" the combustion chambers -- had it 24 days -- ended up putting on NEW CYLINDER HEADS. Went thru lemom law attorney in '06 -- but they still wouldnt take it back. Dealer went bankrupt ( SURPRISE!!). This nightmare goes back the end of August -- and you can bet I wont EVER buy another Chrysler product.
  • I posted a year or so back with the same problem. Dealer could never trace the cause, my mechanic could never trace the cause, the batter tested fine. It ended up being the battery though. If a cell in the battery is going, it can still test fine,yet cause the battery to die quickly. If when you go to jump it, it starts almost immediately, as if it wasn't realy drained, just missing that extra oomph to start, then try just replacing hte battery first...much cheaper than paying for someone to dig into the car (unless it is under warranty and the work will be covered fully). My car has had no problems since. Wish I had tried it sooner, because life with my car is lovely now. :-)
  • madmommamadmomma Posts: 4
    I've been reading about the PAC not starting problem. Did you finally get it fixed????
    Until the last 3 months, I have loved my car. Now it's just driving me insane.
    Thanks.
  • kbprince1kbprince1 Posts: 2
    Yes I got it fixed. Cost about $150.00. The ground wire from the engine to the battery had a shortage. The dealership replaced the wire. I've been driving the car for about 3 weeks now and all is well... So far.
    :)
  • annie4315annie4315 Posts: 4
    I have seen many of you have had or are still having problems with starting of the PAC. Our Pac is in the dealership right now. It's a 2007 with 31000 miles which we purchased in December of 2006. The car periodically won't start. We put the key in and it won't turn over but the radio and all electrical turns on. It will take anywhere from 3 to 12 turns to get it to start. This is the third trip to the dealership and they say they can't dupicate the problem although I have video footage of this happening on at least 4 seperate occasions. They said they needed to have it happen when it was at the dealership. Thyey have replaced the relay and the igintion switch which has not fixed the problem. Any other suggestions of what I should do as they commented that I have not had this problem before and now it's acting up. Like that's my fault?????
    Any help would be appreciated.
  • arriearrie Posts: 312
    My wife has had an '06 Pacifica for 2 years now and the only problem so far has been ABS light coming on and that was fixed this week. It was caused by the ABS sensors on right rear wheel. They changed all four sensors on warranty. No other problems so far so we must be very lucky owning a Pacifica without major problems.

    About your starting problem. As you say that periodically it won't start (turn over) but radio and other electrical seems to work it kind of rules out a lot of possible reasons. I must question your dealer's trouble shooting skills on this one.

    You also say that it takes anywhere from 3 to 12 tries to get it going.

    For me this sounds like there is no problem with the engine itself to start. It starts if it turns over when you turn the key, correct?

    So, the problem is that when you turn the key for some reason the starter motor does not always engage.

    There are some interlocking safety features build in the car's starting system. One of them is a switch in the gear selector. The switch does not allow car to start (engage starter motor) if gear is not on either park or neutral.

    You can test for this next time your PAC doesn't want to turn over when you turn the key. Just move gear to reverse and back to park a couple of times and try again. You can also move gear to neutral to see if it makes it to work.

    If any of this helps you can go back to your dealer and tell about it. It requires adjustment on the Park-Neutral switch (or replacement) and should not be a big job to do at all.

    Arrie
  • annie4315annie4315 Posts: 4
    arrie-
    thanks for the heads up...I have been online today researching alittle bit and someone also suggested the starter solenoid actuating but not completing the circuit to power up the starter. they suggested the starter to be replaced. Have you heard of anything like this. I am so unmechanical. I do not want to be taken by the dealership thinking I am a dumb woman. Thanks for any help.
    Annie
  • arriearrie Posts: 312
    Annie,

    Of course it can be the "starter solenoid" but I would do the test with gear selector first as I was explaining in my earlier post.

    If it is starter solenoid actuating but not completing the circuit I think you should hear it. Modern cars have starters with built in solenoids. The way this usually works is that when solenoid is powered up it moves the gear in the end of the starter motor shaft to engage with the flywheel gear and when it does this move all the way at the end of it it starts the starter motor. If this all takes place you certainly will hear a clunking noise when the starter motor solenoid actuates only partially. There are mechanical parts moving when this happens.

    If you do not hear anything like that when you try to start then I don't believe you have a starter motor issue. The problem probably is that your starter does not even try to start because it never gets the signal from your ignition switch when you turn the key. This can be caused by the Park/Neutral switch, which I was explaining about.

    There are other possible reasons for it too but it is a good start for trouble shooting the problem next time it happens. Just move gear shifter around and try starting with it at Neutral.

    This problem happened to myself with an old Ford Thunderbird years ago.

    Arrie
  • I have an 05 Pacifica too 52,000 and the same thing happened. We had no warning- the car just stopped and the engine was seized we've had all the oil changed but the dealer claims that the engine was starved for oil. Chrysler corp won't offer assistance and were horrible to deal with. They obviously don't stand by their product becasue they know that pacificas are made very poorly. :sick:
  • djagdjag Posts: 39
    The NY Times said the Pacific and the 300 are the best products Chrysler makes. They said the Pacifica was designed by Mercedes and is almost identical to the MC R model. They called it one of the very best crossovers ever. Dont blame Chrysler. You do have to put oil in auto engines regularly or they die. That is not Chrysler's fault...
  • Just an FYI my situation was differant than the oil running dry. I have only 26,000 miles on a 07' Pacifica and it also had starting problems. After replacing several components and 5 trips to the service department with my car staying there for a minimum of two days each time. (and yes....rental car at my expense!) They finally replaced the computer unit - and the problem still exists. I am so frustrated and it is under warranty- i am not sure seriously that they know what they are doing. Since early June the car has been at the dealership for a total of about 12 days! NY times may have rated it one the best products Chrysler makes but being a Pacifica owner I do not rate it high on my list and I have owned only Chrysler/Jeep products.
  • It's not the starter. We had ours rebuilt, then bought a brand new one from the dealer.
    I'm inclined to agree with it being the ground wire. My husband says that the way all the gears light up when we try to start it indicates a short somewhere.
  • bele88bele88 Posts: 2
    I have a 2005 PAC Touring - it was running fine this morning. This afternoon, I went outside & heard a loud, rapid ticking/clicking sound coming from the fuse box. When I tried to start the car, it would not turn over & the "immobilizer" light started blinking rapidly. I was using the original key, so I know it isn't an "unauthorized start". This has never occurred before. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this? I can't reach my mechanic or the dealer, as it is the holiday weekend!! I'll be very appreciative of any help you may be able to offer. Thanks!
  • Same problem as you... hope someone knows the answer....
    Wes
  • OK folks
    If these are the symptoms:
    1- Car clicks very fast when trying to start
    2- lights flicker in sync with the click
    3- Sometimes the car will start just fine, sometimes it will click

    Then you have a dead cell in the battery. Easy fix. The same happened to me. Changed the battery. Haven't had the problem in one year.
    Let me know
  • My husband jumpstarted the car & it seemed to run okay. We stopped/started it several times. The next day, I tried to drive it & it would tach out at 4-5000 rpm if I went over 30mph. It seemed to be stuck in 2nd gear & wouldn't shift. The dealer had it towed in, thinking it was either the transmission or the computer relay to the transmission. Turns out, the body shop that had done my accident repairs had mixed up some fuses & it was causing the computer to malfunction. They replaced the fuses & it's fine now!
  • We fixed our car ourselves. All it took was running some wire from the batter directly to the engine. It seems that the ground wire is bad or loose. Every time we would take it to the mechanic, they would tinker with it and then it would be fine for a few days. It has been a week now with NO problems!!!!!! If you go back to the mechanic tell them to check that.
  • Has anybody noted if the not starting issue occured when there was high humidity and heavy condensation? I live in MI, and bought my 07 Pacifica in Jan 08, previously owned but still under warranty. Worked great until July 17th when there was high humidity and heavy condensation. Car wouldn't start up, although it tried...sounded like it would fire up, but like it just couldn't. Also noticed that all of the passenger side of the vehicle power was out (windows, locks, mirror, and both front electrical seats dead), leaving us all to believe there's a short in there somewhere. Towed in to dealership, fired up for them when they got to it. 2 days later had the same thing, but this time when they got it, it didn't start up for them. They replaced something, it worked...until a few weeks later when it happened again. Again they made a replacement of a part, and again it worked until I was faced with another high humid/condensation morning while out of state. Daughter and I were stranded at a hotel that morning when we were supposed to be at her tournament (thankfully, due to heavy rains during the night, the games were delayed), and we just waited it out and kept trying it every so often. After about 2 hours (and all of the morning condensation evaporated from the car), it fired right up. It happend a 4th time about 3 weeks ago, and the tow truck took forever to get to my house - by the time they picked it up and got it to the dealership, it fired right up, and they're never able to recreate the problem because the condensation level isn't something they can recreate. Every time it wouldn't start, the electrical on the passenger side would be out too.

    I'd be willing to bet that I won't have another issue with it until next summer, when it's humid with heavy condensation... If I were the first owner I would've qualified for the lemon law...but a stupid rental agency had it before me. I absolutely love this car - it does everything I need (great snow car with the AWD, comfort, style, room for all of my kid's gear), it just doesn't start for me once in a while.

    So - those of you who have had repairs done (battery cables replaced, etc), is your car still doing ok, and how long has it been since you've been 'trouble free'?

    Rebecca
  • jtg61jtg61 Posts: 43
    "The second prob. I wanted addressed was that, twice, the dashboard lights and remote failed to work. The car will turn on and run but w.out dashboard lights (ie tach. speed. etc. Normally corrected itself after a couple of on-off cycles followed by a check engine light which would also go away."
    ~~~~~~~~~~~
    I've also experienced this problem on my '05 Pacifica. The first time it happened I thought it was due to my remote lock keyfob being defective. I tried the other keyfob and it still wouldn't remote lock. It started working again so I didn't give it anymore thought. Now a few months later I tried to remote lock the vehicle and it didn't respond again. I put the key back in the ignition and noticed the instrument panel was dark but the car would start. I shut it back off and manually locked the doors (the power lock button on the door still worked) and went inside. When I came back later it started up and the instrument panel was back on again but now the 'check engine light' was illuminated. I did the old 'on acc on acc on' trick to get the fault codes off the odometer. It showed fault codes u110c (No Fuel Level Bus Message) and u0140 (Lost Communication With Body Control Module). Unfortunately my Pacifica is over 3 years old but still only 27k miles. I'm not sure what to do about this since it is no longer under warranty. Was hoping for a TSB or Recall. I will post a solution here if I get one.
  • I am having the exact same problem. Please let me know if you figure it out. I willdo the same
  • I want to tell you, I have the same problems, Ive had these for about 6 months. They tell me its normal. I cant go to the car wash, it runs horrible in the rain. doesnt start.. Chrysler doesnt want to do anything about this problem with my vehicle. They want to screw me around. I currently am trying to get something done. dont think its going to help.. but trying. My dealership will not even work on my vehicle anymore. Since they say there is nothing wrong with it.
    I cant even trust my vehicle to go to the grocery store.
    Im so done with Chrysler I wish I could get rid of it.
  • I know what you mean by Chrysler won't do anything anymore. I was told that until the mechanics can recreate my problem, they are not authorized to replace anything. Like they're going to be able to recreate the moisture issue for me... It also STALLED on me Friday after work while driving!! I couldn't believe it - it was the one thing I was thinking that at least 'that' wasn't happening... It wasn't wet, humid, anything! And when I pressed the gas, my RPM didn't budge at all, even though I threw the car in neutral and pressed the pedal half way to the floor to try to keep it going. I will never EVER get a Chrysler again, and I will be sure that anyone who knows me, will know what terrible service they provided and what a piece of junk car they have. :mad:
  • mcdon1 - have your starting/stalling completely gone away? We've had some things replaced on our PAC too, but after a while, we have the same problems reoccur. Just wondering if the corroded battery cables were for sure the blame... Thanks for any insight you can give!

    Rebecca
    10/20/08
  • I cleaned my idle air valve the other day and ever since then it has fired up fine. The last couple of days it has been raining and no problems. Hopefully this fixes it. A couple of weeks ago i also cleaned the throttle body. Both of those were a easy 15 minute fix. I hope it lasts.
  • tizlamtizlam Posts: 12
    Hello, I haven't been on this board in a while, saw your post I had my pac for 2 yrs now , and this is the first time i experience this ,turn the key and it won't do a thing, the radio comes on ,all the lights but no sound from the engine, I had to wait about 10 min then all of sudden it cranks up, this is scary what if I had an emergency. If you could give some advice on this matter it would be greatly appreciated,thanks :confuse:
  • tizlamtizlam Posts: 12
    Hello, wondering if you had your problem fixed I am now experiencing the pac not turning over no sound from the engine, the radio comes on but the engine acts like there is no engine, then after 10 it starts like normal, what the hell, suppossed we have a emergency.
  • tizlamtizlam Posts: 12
    My pac is doing this crap now after 2 years, all of sudden you turn the key and nothing happens no sound except from the radio , no cranck at all, then 10 min later starts up normal, what kind witchery is this??? :sick:
  • I am of course out of warranty after they replaced several components on the vehicle from the starter to the entire computer board and so on... the problem still exsists. For our vehicle when it does exactly what you said. We turn the eginition on then put the car in nuetral and then back to park and it starts right up. Someone had emailed me a month or so ago and said they had the same problem and it has to do with the car's computer recongnizing it is in park to be able to start. Strange but after that it starts everytime we do that after it acts up. I am so feed up with Chrysler and this will be our last car from them which is sad because their the only cars we ever owned but they treated us poorly throughout this entire process and we only had 20,000 miles when the problem first occurred. Paid cash for the car and all cars we bought from them (5 in total). Their loss not ours! Hope this helps.
  • I just bought off-lease 2005 Pacifica in grate shape. I never had a Chrysler car before.
    I noticed that the "Check Engine" Light is on with “gas cap” message. I decided to read and reset trouble codes by following a post I found on one of the Chrysler forums: depress odometer reset button, turn key to on position, release button. I tried it several times and may did something wrong, but instead of codes I’ve got messed up computer that started blinking dash lights including odometer. The odometer is blinking even with key off. I can not start my car anymore. No crank at all. Because constant blinking and clicking relay in the fuse box I had to disconnect battery.
    Have you experienced anything similar and know what to do to fix this problem? :confuse:
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