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  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    just email me

    If you keep the conversation here then everyone can learn.

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  • rbaker1965rbaker1965 Member Posts: 1
    SANDY45 or anyone else
    Did you manage to find out the cause of the sinking was?...leaking valves?..etc..

    I have the same issue with my Disco that has rear air suspension, overnight it drops, but when you turn the engine on the compressor kicks in and raises the rear to the ride height.

    I had an LR roadside assistance look at it, but from his diagnostic equipment he could find no faults and offered no explanation! I'd rather not take it to a dealer and would like to know what is causing it and if a local car mechanic can fix it.

    thanks
    Richard
  • calhutchcalhutch Member Posts: 3
    Thank you jstevens for posting your findings. I have a 2003 Disco II and had the same problem with the M & S mode lights flashing, which put my transmission into the sluggish "limp home" mode. My battery had been very weak for a few days before and i had even had to jump it off a time or two. When I read your post, I decided to go out and buy a new battery before I spent a fortune on misdiagnosis somewhere. It seems to have worked and I'm back on the road. God bless the internet.
  • nanuqnanuq Member Posts: 765
    If I remember right, there was a Tech Service Bulletin for replacing the antenna that receives the signal from your fob. Mine is a '96 as well, and my antenna was replaced.

    Checkpoint time: 112k miles, zero trouble with my Disco. She still runs and drives like new, and I'm still on my original rotors (but like my 6th set of soft pads).

    (I love to temp Lord Lucas)

    Cheers!
  • kingdavid3kingdavid3 Member Posts: 1
    I have always wanted a Land Rover and now able to purchase one. How many miles will I get out of it,average.It's a 2002
    has 100,000 miles on it. What can I expect?
    Please help!
  • mnrovermnrover Member Posts: 52
    I had the same problem on my 99 Disco II - Took it to a LR dealer and had them test the Crank sensor. That solved my problem. Good luck
  • dandgdandg Member Posts: 91
    I have just about had enough of my Jeep GC and though I might trade problems for a 2000 Disco II with with low mileage.I see some with under 70 (one used car dealer has one with 54k for) for under 10k.
    Questions I have are, why so many with replaced engines or engine blocks?Is 100k about all they will hold up,can poor maintance be to blame?
    I realize they are a bit expensive to work on but do owners find non dealer sercie avalible?
    What about tires,my AWD requires all four get replaced at same time so as not to cause drive train issues?
    Any pointers (or help talking me out of it :) ) would be great.
  • 3006mick3006mick Member Posts: 3
    Is it a diesel or petrol. The diesels that friends have in their tray tops (very popular in Australia seem to get abot 300,000 kilometers (180,000miles) before they start to fade. I was talking to a guy who owns a trusted family mechanical repair business that has been operating since the 1920s, now specialising in Land Rover (and Lada, believe it or not) told me that well loked after and not flogged to death seem to get about 500,000ks or 300,000miles before a rebuild is due.

    My friends has done 250,000ks (150,000miles) and is as strong as ever and does not burn oil between changes. Of course, being English, it will proudly drop a bit on the deck!
  • 1cloud91cloud9 Member Posts: 1
    I see that the Discovery II getting stuck in park is a common problem. Are there any answers? I cannot afford to tow and would like to fix it. I have checked all the fuses, the brake lights do not work. Do I need to check the bulbs? Is that a common issue? Is there a step by step; I.E. if not this check that type of thing? I have a 2000.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    The brake switch is broken. It is located under the transmission shifter and tells the transmission you have your foot on the brake so that you can shift out of park. Most Land Rover dealers keep a few switches in stock and it is fairly easy to replace. I can't remember exactly what the switch looks like though. It can be removed so that you can drive but then you don't have any brake lights. If you pull hard enough on the shift lever it will just come right off. Then you can pull the plastic cover off that says PRND on it. Some where by the shift lever is the brake switch but I just really can't remember what it looks like.
  • jkmewrightjkmewright Member Posts: 11
    Mine did that a couple of times and roadside assistance told me this: press the brake pedal to the floor (all the way) do this until your leg is about to fall off or you hear that little "click" which is your brake releasing. When you hear the little "click" you should be able to take it out of park. This will get you back on the road. Mine did this for 4 days in a row and has not done it for 1 1.2 years now.
  • ca770ca770 Member Posts: 16
    Hello Disco lovers!
    Please give your input. I found a 03 Disco II SE with 29000 miles at a local dealership, the asking price is 17,650, 2 month left on Factory warranty. I am going to see it this afternoon, what are the things that I should pay attention to? Also, should I extend the warranty? if so, how much?
    Thank you for your input.
  • ca770ca770 Member Posts: 16
    I went to the dealership this afternoon and discovered that all of the VIN tags are missing, so I walked away :sick:
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    That price is way too low for that car anyway. Something had to be wrong with it.
  • ca770ca770 Member Posts: 16
    Thank you british_rover. The sales person said "Someone stole this car in CA, took off all of the VIN tags to clone a good one(?!?). They were trying to get the car to Mexico to make it legal, and then ship it to Europe for sale." After I heard that I just got up and left. :confuse: :mad:
  • 1st_rover1st_rover Member Posts: 10
    We have a 2003 Land Rover Discovery SE (non-ACE).

    I have noticed that the ABS unit makes a very slight noise when the motor is off (hood must be raised, ear relatively close to the ABS unit). Is this normal?

    Addtionally, we were parking at the edge of the road and got significant wheelspin from 1 wheel. Truck was in 4H. The brake locking did not appear to work well on the leaves to help divert power to other wheels. Is this common?

    Now the vibration question. Driving at 72-76 mph, there is a vibration. It remains if the truck is placed in neutral, but is more prominent when driving. The tires seem reasonably good. Nothing obvious on the driveshaft. It is not a huge vibration, but I slow down below 70 where everything is as expected. Anyone experiencing the same issue?

    Thanks for the help.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    A little noise from the ABS accumulator is normally but if it does sound very loud you should probably have it checked out.

    The traction control on the discos is not as good as it could be. That is the reason why they went back to the locking center diff in the 2004 MY.

    A little vibration at speed is normally but having all of the tires rotated and balanced is probably a good idea. Make sure you take it to a place that uses road force balancing as it is best for Land Rovers. Also if you still have goodyear tires on the Disco dump those as soon as possible they suck.

    If you still have vibration after that it could be an out of balance driveshaft.
  • sniper2sniper2 Member Posts: 4
    For the person who has their Land Rover Disco 2 stuck in park. All you have to do is by another brake stop switch, it is located under the brake pedal near the top part of the brake pedal arm.This broken brake swith causes your discovery to be stuck in park with no brake lights.
  • sniper2sniper2 Member Posts: 4
    I have a Land Rover 2000 Discovery 2. I replaced my mass air flow sensor about two months ago and all four oxygen sensors; why' because my check engine light was on. But It went off after I replaced may mass air flow sensor. now yesterday while driving home it came back on. Could this be my Mass air flow sensor again so soon, or is this another problem, and has anyone else had this issue with their 2000 Disco 2?
  • rowjimmy76rowjimmy76 Member Posts: 1
    Here goes.. 99 DII 93K on the Clock, engine purrs in park/neutral no problems there, replaced (1)rear airbag last june (If this helps any) and other than that I have no problems....however in the last 2 weeks a strange vibration started when driving....when accelerating the car vibrates (i can feel it thru the wheel, floor boards (it even rattles my keys in the ignition) I cant really tell where it is comming from? let off the gas it rolls smooth as can be.
    checked the front/rear axles have oil nothing on the magnetic plug. I do have (1) wheel hub that is shot and throwing grease but would that really cause this problem ? what can this be ? I am cheap so anything I can do to avoid PAYING someone else to fix this anyone have any ideas ? thanks for the help !!!
  • paniconyapaniconya Member Posts: 1
    I have a 2002 Disco with 35,000 miles, it started lurching as I was going slow and when I floored the accelerator the problem stopped. I took it to the dealer and their diagnosis was carbon build up in the valves. Does this problem still exist. A mechanic buddy of mine relayed to me that the problem would not just immediately appear and that he thought LRs remedy was a bit over the top. (Taking the engine apart and cleaning the valves, they are also replacing a leaking head gasket). This car has an extended warranty, but I will still have to pay around a grant out of pocket. Is there any solution to correcting this problem and is this a real problem?
  • bassmiesternjbassmiesternj Member Posts: 48
    When I had the head gaskets done on my 02' Disco (68k miles) the independent shop also recommended doing a valve job at the same time, in fact they wouldn't do the job without taking care of the valves while they were in there. It made sense to me, so I went with it.

    PS: the dealer was quoting around $900 just for the valve job.
  • 1st_rover1st_rover Member Posts: 10
    A question on vibration.

    We have a 2003 Discovery 2 SE. At >70 mph we experience what I called a vibration in my previous message, but it is more like a rumble. It is more significant going downhill than uphill which makes me think it is related to engine torque through the driveline.

    I have experienced tire vibration before, and it has been more of a vibration than a rumble. I realize that some vibrations can create structure borne noise in the cabin so tire / driveline vibration can be tricky.

    Does anyone have experience with driveline vibration at higher speeds? How do you characterize it? What was the cause of the vibration? Could improper lubrication of the drive shaft be an issue?

    Thanks for the assistance.
  • sniper2sniper2 Member Posts: 4
    I had vibration on my 2000 Discovery, it was my rear tire when I changed it the noise and vibrarion went away.
  • ca770ca770 Member Posts: 16
    Hello Disco owners. We just bought our very first Discovery. A black 03 SE, great truck. :shades: Very happyyyyyy!
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Welcome aboard! Now you just have to tell us all about it! :)

    tidester, host
  • bryan4presidenbryan4presiden Member Posts: 1
    I test drove a 2000 disco ii tonight with 79,000 miles on the clock. I am going to have my mechanic look give it a once over before I get anymore serious about buying the vechile. What things should I look for, feel or listen to as I drive it to and from the mechanic?

    Any suggestions would be very helpful.

    I don't think my Grand Wagoneer is to happy about me looking at other vechiles.

    Mr. President
  • 1st_rover1st_rover Member Posts: 10
    Hello. We have a 2003 Discovery 2 SE.

    Recently ABS / Traction Control / Hill descent lights have started to come on intermittently. At 49k miles, we are fortunatly just within warranty. The LandRover dealer replaced the shuttle valve yesturday which is a first step in the warranty process. If the lights come back on, they will also replace the modulator. He indicated that about 50% of the time, the shuttle valve will fix the issue, otherwise they will replace the modulator.

    Has anyone had this service? Did the shuttle valve change without a modulator change fix the problem or just delay the change to the modulator?

    I understand the shuttle valve is about $500 and the modulator is about $2000. As we are almost out of warranty, I want to know how hard to push at the dealer.

    Thanks all for the information. I knew of the ABS modulator issue from reading the forum, but have yet to see the shutter valve.
  • 1st_rover1st_rover Member Posts: 10
    A follow-up to the ABS Modulator / Shuttle Valve:

    Fortunately the dealer replaced them both due to the proper fault showing after the shuttle valve fault.

    Has anyone had problems with the ABS system after replacement of these pieces? I am hopeful that the replacement part is updated and there will not be a problem in the future. Has anyone had to replace more than 1 shuttle valve / modulator?

    Thanks in advance for the information.
  • lyntayllyntayl Member Posts: 2
    I Just want to know is this a good car I don't want to buy a 99 or 01,02 and I start having some major problems or is this car only for the well off that can afford to put alot of money in to a car.

    thank you

    lynevoo
  • sniper2sniper2 Member Posts: 4
    Well buddy' I have a 2000 Disco. and the only problems i've had so far, I replaced my mass air flow sensor all four oxygen sensors and a brake light switch. Oh almost forgot, my clock light stop working, I still haven't found out how to replace the bulb. I'll tell you this bud' if you do decide to get one try to get a more up to one more up dated like 04 or higher model. They are very good vehicles and I love driving minds exspecially on the highway.
  • lyntayllyntayl Member Posts: 2
    thanks for the info. I'm think about buying an 02 it has 113000 miles one owner. it was a family car. how many miles does disco ll get up too.
  • mudhoppermudhopper Member Posts: 3
    I have had a problem back end sinking, when I bought my 99 Disco11 ES 7Seater, 2 years ago with 60,000 miles on the clock. It turned out to be a split/ leaking air spring which was replaced under the selling dealers independent warranty. I occaisionally experience back end sinking, which I think is down to parking on uneven ground/ ramps etc, which may cause a pressure relief valve to open and thus one side of the suspension will sink. Once I restart the engine, the air pump re-levels the suspension in a short while. The only other faults I have had is a dead starter motor and today the ABS,TC and Hill Descent lights have come on and stayed on, so I am getting my local friendly non LR franchised dealer to check this out on Testblock, John in Enfield.
  • 98discotex198discotex1 Member Posts: 6
    I've noticed brake fluid leaking from just under the master cylinder reservoir on my 1998 Diso II. I've been told there are some O-rings there. Am looking for advice on replacing them myself. How does the reservoir come off? I know I'll have to rebleed the system. Have also had my rear moonroof leak- from what appears to it not closing straight. Any suggestions out there for either of these conditions? Thanks
  • mudhoppermudhopper Member Posts: 3
    I had water coming in from both front and rear rooflights in heavy rain while parked. My trusty independent self employed mechanic blew out the channels with the airline and removed and refitted the rubber seals as they had slipped out of place. they haven't leaked since. The drainage tubes may need clearing of leaves, moss, sand etc. but they are difficult to find and the airline seemed to clear them of any noticable muck at the top.
  • 1st_rover1st_rover Member Posts: 10
    An update on the vibration at 70+ MPH on our 2003 Discovery SE. Initially the dealer focused on the tires / balance. After balance, then new tires, the vibration remained.

    Apparently this vibration is not uncommon in this truck. It is likely a drivetrain issue. The rubber coupling at the rear of the driveshaft can need replacement due to the rear universal joint wearing out (no grease fitting on rear u-joint, it begins to bind and wears out the rubber coupling and causes a vibration).

    We will get both replaced later this week and hopefully solve the mystery.
  • mhirmhir Member Posts: 1
    ABS,TC and Hill descent lights on had same fault on a 2001 model found to be a speed sensor on one of the wheels cost about £45 plus fitting hope this helps
  • ajs1ironajs1iron Member Posts: 2
    I just recently purchased a used Disco.
    About two weeks later, the car overheated and all the coolant flooded out.
    I was told by a mechanic that this is a "timing cover gasket" problem.
    Is this true?
    If so, what is the recommended course of action?
    (It has temporarily been fixed with some sealant but I am hesitant to drive it for fear it will overheat again.)
    Thanks to anyone who can advise.
  • jkmewrightjkmewright Member Posts: 11
    Just had the same thing. Head gasket job here.
  • ajs1ironajs1iron Member Posts: 2
    Ok - thanks for the advice.
    Did you have to replace the head gasket?
    What was the approximate cost?

    Appreciate the help.
  • jkmewrightjkmewright Member Posts: 11
    Well, I had several things done at that time and it ran around $1400. There were several leaks and they replaced a few gaskets and seals. This was done at the dealership and they did replace the head gasket. I am not sure what JUST this job would cost. Sorry!
  • jkmewrightjkmewright Member Posts: 11
    Truck would not start. Left alone for 30 minutes, fired right up. Then stalled while driving, 5 blocks away. Finally started then stalled 2 blocks away. We towed the truck home and recharged the battery that drained while trying to start. Truck ran fine for 2 days and stalled again. Replaced battery and truck again stalled the next morning. Here we are.... any advice? Thanks!
  • 1st_rover1st_rover Member Posts: 10
    Hello to the board.

    An update on the vibration that occured at 70 mph on our 2003 Discovery II SE. The dealership replaced the u-joint and rubber dougnut on the rear driveshaft plus the front driveshaft. Now the vibration is completely gone and the truck runs great.

    Thankfully this was covered under warranty. Has anyone else had this vibration issue and parts replaced under warranty or after the warranty expires?

    Thanks for the info.
  • adriangtzmbadriangtzmb Member Posts: 2
    Try the crankshaft positioning sensor, when it faults, it tends to stall as you come to a stop or fail to start the engine altogether. Adrian
  • dngertraindngertrain Member Posts: 3
    i have a 97 land rover discovery, even though it is a couple years being yours get it checked at the local land rover dealer, i had the same exact problem and i dealt with bumbling idiots at the local garage. send it to land rover, their computer will check everything, plus they know a lot about land rover, not that other people don't, but they deal with this problem a lot, so try that you'll get better results
  • dngertraindngertrain Member Posts: 3
    i have a 97 disco with about139,000 miles. whenever i put it into reverse from another gear it will make a loud thud and the vehicle will rumble and shake. it will then be fine and still drives in reverse, what could it be??? as well that sometimes i have brake problems. sometimes when driving at a low rate of speed and when i go to come to a stop the vehicle will slide like as if i am sliding on ice. its wired! the brakes will catch after about 2 or 3 seconds. the brake light on the speedometer does not light up though which is even weirder. what cold it be, could it be related to my transmission problems??? HELP!!! any response an be sent to dngertrain@comcast.net thanks!!!
  • jkmewrightjkmewright Member Posts: 11
    You are the stuff! Of all the suggestions and guesses, it WAS that sensor. Thanks!
  • 98discotex198discotex1 Member Posts: 6
    I'm unable to get my Disco out of park. Stepping on the brake and the shifter seems locked. I have seen some change fall in there previously and have also read of similar happening to a Range Rover... How does one go about getting in there? I've pulled the outer cover and found my shifter lights- BOTH of which are burnt out, but not sure how to get UNDER the next faceplate.

    **Additionally just before killing the ignition I noticed I lost both my brake lights and directionals. Could there be a sensor not allowing me to get out of park since I have no brakelights? Emergency flashers and headlights boot work fine with car not running. Starts fine as well. Where does the flasher live?

    Suggestions please. I'm stuck in the grocery store parking lot! Thanks!
  • 98discotex198discotex1 Member Posts: 6
    Got one piece at the to of the brake pedal off. Trying to identify the part mentioned in earlier posts... What does the brake snesor look like? I removed one part that has a hose coming off it and 2 wires... I'm getting beat down over sensor mania... I love this Rover, but at 113 K miles it's getting undependable.
  • 98discotex198discotex1 Member Posts: 6
    Got if fixed! Was towing the jet ski and fell victim to a short in the trailer's lights popping a fuse. I've learned an awful lot about my Rover lot over the past 24 hours! The biggest of which is I'm carrying extra fuses when pulling the trailer. Still have to get under the dash and reverse the wires on the cruise control sensor along the break pedal.
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