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So now I"ve discovered all the usual symptoms: Nothing at all from the AC, even though the light comes on and the blower works fine. No compressor engagement at all, and there is a very recent condenser in the car marked Sept 2010. I figure that the "usual" parts have been replaced and it has crapped out again.
My question is this: As a second owner on a car with 93,000 on it should I bother with the class action? Is there an acceptable compressor/condenser set available now that won't grenade in a year or two? Are the original OEM parts all junk?
Oh how I wish that I'd gone with my instincts and just rebuilt the Montero.
The law firm handling the a/c issue has just filed a new class action on the Civic tire situation. You can get their contact information at
www.honda-lawsuit.com . I was able to confirm I am on the settlement list however don't know when the court will approve the settlement.
Regards, Mac in a very hot car in Palm Springs
Statistically, Hondas, including CR-Vs, rank very high in reliability. And the CR-V has been the highest selling SUV in its class for many years. Believe it or not, there must be more than a few happy owners for those rankings and sales to continue.
Of course, no car maker is perfect. And through the wonders of forums like these, owners with problems can congregate, share information, and start to think they represent more people than they do. Most car owners never to go near a forum on car problems.
I've little doubt that if my '07 CR-V's A/C went out just beyond warranty, I'd not be happy about it. I had that happen to the tranny on a Toyota once. Expensive. But I didn't condemn all Toyotas. I've owned too many others not to know of their general reliability.
concerning everything on the HVAAC on my CRV., I have a mouth I ask around to, I have a buisness of my own and work for another company where I see a lot of people and the cars they drive, The numbers of CRV at around 64,000 to 90,000 miles is unreal how many AC are blowing up, locking up(going out). Apparently thisa guy as he said is retired and probably drives 40mph, and is cold in the middle of the summer. Well Im still in my prime so is my wife and she likes her AC.
What gets me the most this forum was about Honda and people are posting about Ford, or Chevy, hmm I see whats up, their Honda lovers trying to get attention away from the issue Honda. I have a F150 187,000 Changed the MAF sensor, cleaned my egr ports, new plugs. Brakes tires etc, Gas, But all this combined still hasnt costed me a one time at 80,000 miles 3,000 dollar problem, Hell you give 34,000 for a car you expect it to last awhile. my F150 wasnt but 18,800 something back in 98, I purchased a used Montero, its out doing this Honda. 6,500, My daughter used 96 camaro, 146,000 Still going, The energizer bunny $12.95 still going.
Oil, 495 free shipping, 1 year warranty, then they have a 8 part kit with lines, etc, it was 645. , http://www.onlineaccompressors.com/addtocart/2005_Honda/CRV/AC_Kit/60-80501.html- I just paid, 435, for just Compressor, expansion valve and new dryer bag repacking kit. I'm taking it back getting this kit.
This is the price I'd pay after any assistance from Honda corporate.
I don't need a nice car so I'm tempted to just pay. But I could probably pay cash for something much newer (and less likely to have another problem). I'd like to wait before buying a new car... just because I'm a little cheap and don't want to part with the cash.
Is it crazy to pay that much just to keep it running?
Yes - I do need the A/C. I'd probably get a new car in 1-2 years so the A/C is probably just for this summer and/or next.
Bluebook/resale values seem to be around 5-6K but I don't know if that factors in the dead A/C or not.
Thank you
My suggestion: Print out these postings ... go back to the dealer, tell them it has been a constant problem since 2003 CRV's because of their redesign of the ac unit; the holes are too small and implodes taking out the entire ac system.. Honda has repaired this at no charge, on vehicles more than once. If no luck, go to an independent, call Honda American, give them the same story ... they reimbursed 1/2 of mine. GET RID OF THE CAR, My 2004 went out at just under 50k miles; repaired at independent (because I was not aware of these postings), HA reimbursed 1/2; it went out again in 3 months (this time covered by warranty). I traded the car in on a 2010 Toyota RAV 4.
Did you get the 4 or 6 cylinder in the RAV4? Does it have similar fuel consumption, assuming both are AWD?
Sam
In Arizona, ac is a MUST HAVE not a luxury. The RAV 4 is 4 cylinder, gas mileage averages 26 mph Good luck.
Just to chime in here, I also had a 2003 EX AWD, and my tires lasted for about 44K. Must have been a good year...
I also had the rear fluid changed at 30K as a precaution.
I followed the link to the new air conditioner kit. Looks good. I called them and talked to them about a 3 year warranty.
Have you had yours installed? If so have you had nay problems with it so far.
Thanks.
Mike
It turned out I only need compressor, not whole system. The compressor kit was from a 2006 Civic, he compare the part number, they are the same, and so far over a year, it is still working great.
I would love the email address of Honda's CEO. please post it or email me.
gusmorgan@cox.net.
Thanks,
Gus
I'm sure that someone scans the emails and will simply forward your email to customer service.
Meanwhile, by posting your email on a public forum, you've invited every spammer and spambot in the world to grab it.
Why did it take you 5 a/c outages to discover this is CRapV is not worth the money?
Dumped mine after 2 outages in 3 months, with 46,000 miles on the 2004 CRapV.
Getting rid of the car would imply destroying it. You merely passed on the problem onto someone else. Nice! (Not!!!)
Trading a problem car to a Toyota dealer who will in turn sell it to someone else, or auction, and the car ends up in hands of some single mother with 3 kids who can barely afford it... I guess your version of "pay it forward" is a little a skew...
Honda perpetuates the problem; I simply "cut my losses" and moved on.
Anyone buying a used car needs to do some research; that's what these car forums are all about - to inform prospective purchasers.
It is a 2005 with 111K miles, I bought it new and have maintained it and paid for numerous other "small time" repairs over the past 6 years, you know, the kind of repairs you expect. This doesn't fall in that category and I'm seriously disappointed to be paying this much in a single repair with a Honda. I skipped the cheaper SUVs thinking that by paying a little more, I would be buying a solid, dependable car. Guess not. My first car was an '83 Accord that had over 185K miles on it and never needed any repair of this magnitude...how sad that Honda has sacrificed their fantastic reputation like this!
Ironically, I fought the "safety vs convenience" factor early on with my CRV-it was part of the faulty back-hatch-latch batch and it took the dealer 6 times to finally fix it right. Not covered under "lemon law" because it wasn't a "safety problem" (although not being able to lock the car seemed like a safety problem to me). I was super-patient through that process, now this? My husband owns a Fit and it is a fantastic car, but my CR-V seems cursed. I've had my eye on an Odyssey EX-L for the next family car, but this experience has me completely soured on Hondas and I'll be opting for the Sienna instead. Sorry Honda, I'm out.
How awful; but please don't question (shake your finger at me) over this being a safety issue. I totally agree it is.
Call American Honda and tell them and tell the Honda dealer. Better yet, tell the dealer it is documented by 100's of people on this forum - Honda needs to step up to the plate and do a "permanent fix" of this design flaw problem.
Are you saying that HA reimbursed you even after you repaired it at an independent? I am in the same boat as you, same details on the car and am getting the car repaired at an independent. HA said they would reimburse if I get it done at a dealer, but not if at an independent. I'm now in a fix. Can you help?
If they will pay 100% for work done at a dealer - why wouldn't you have the work done at a dealer - or - has the work already been done.
(It's going to be in the mid 90's all next week) but I guess it doesn't really matter since we were informed that many of the parts related to this problem are not available and they have no idea when they will be. (Columbus, Ohio) I have not read any other posts about parts not being available. Also, went to the class action lawsuit website that is mentioned all over online, and all I could find was a form to fill out over a Civic tire problem. Very frustrating and I know this is only the beginning............
Also, here is the link for the class action lawsuit for the A/C
http://www.newjerseyclassactionlawyer.net/honda-cr-v-tsx-and-odyssey-ac-defects/-