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I think I may be able to get the price down on the Versa even more.
Regarding which is better, that is a tough one. Granted the Versa isn't getting the gas mileage that it should, but over all, the Versa is better drving car then the Civic.
I bought the Versa because it has almost the same space as a Civic, but had 21 century conveniences in it. All my cars well hae Bluetooth as well as Intelli-key in the future...
Tony
Tony, did you get yours w/ ABS??
Im starting my hunt for a blue onyx 1.8SL with CVT soon
Tony
Is Nissan not manufacturing ABS equipped Versas for the US market? I have heard ABS is standard on Canadian SLs.
Maybe they are sending them all to Canada.
Right off the bat, I'm getting somewhere between 35-40 mpg my first 3 tanks worth with mostly city driving. I think it depends how you drive, though -- I don't accelerate rapidly or anything.
Anyway, I got a lot of security features (glass etching, alarm system, etc), the power package, the ABS, an automatic transmission, floor mats, kickplate, etc -- a few more options than I wanted and got them "thrown in" because of the lack of Versas on the lot, saying, "Well, I don't really need a kickplate, but you don't have one without it...." etc. I think I did really well, thanks to Edmunds and reading about it. Without my trade in the mix, I still got it for 14,650 and got it in one afternoon without a lot of nailbiting and handwringing. I was happy with the price, the car, everything. I love it!
Some places have no tax and cheap license fees and other have high sales tax and high license fees.
Sales price including the destination charge + any additional fees the dealer charges for documentation, "processing" or "preparation," etc.. Sales tax and license/registration are not part of the dealer charges.
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When I drove by my local Nissan dealer today, I saw a new Sentra sitting outside with one headlamp clouded over, the other crystal clear. So it happens.
And the price you got does look pretty darn good!
The msrp is $16,675...I paid $15,400 at a dealer in the Los Angeles area (both numbers include destination but not tax, lic, etc). It is a blk ext/beige int Versa SL hatchback, CVT, ABS, splash guards, and floor mats. I know I got a pretty good deal, but I wanna know if I got an extraordinary deal!
According to the Consumer Reports fact sheet I bought, the invoice on this car was $12,680 + 607 + 217 + 67 = $13,571. The holdback, according to CR was $241 (which might actually be low, because they calculated the HB on the base model without extras), so I'm assuming the dealer had $13,330 in the car.
There were two dealers with almost the same model in the Albany, NY area (the only difference on the alternate car was that it had the floor mats instead of the kickplates): Nemith and Lia. We went through two rounds of bidding by phone with the dealers. The final purchase price was $13,671 from Nemith; Lia went to $13,900 on their car. Both dealers were easy to work with on the phone.
The final bottom line was $13,671 + 1093.68 (tax) + 67.50 (doc fees) = $14,832.18 OTD. If you count the doc fees as pure profit (which they probably aren't), we got the car for 408.50 over dealer cost, or a markup of about 3.1%.
I went to a Nissan dealership this past weekend and fell in love with the Versa when I had very low expectations. The salesmen was very helpful and told me that although they didn't have the exact car I wanted on the lot, they'd work with me to get it.
They did an internet search of nearby dealerships and found the car I wanted (ABS, CVT, SL model, Sport Pack, Convenience Pack, Sirius, Black or Dark Blue) in NJ (I'm in PA). Since it was close to closing time on Saturday, he was unable to get a hold of the dealer trade person. I filled out hte paper work, negotiated my deal and left with an sales agreement with all but the VIN filled in. So.....today I called to say that he neglected ot provide the VIN or was this b/c he first wanted to verify the availabiity of the car.
He called me back late in the afternoon and said this was the case. The first two dealerships he found had the car but it was either reserved or someone had a deposit on it. Last I heard he was working on getting me one from Upstate NY.
My question is...is this all a scam and he's cheating me? Or is this standard procedure?
Can they pull cars from anywhere in the country on, say a truck as long as the dealership is willing to trade?
Also, originally my car was to have 300 miles or so on it. If it comes from further away how do I handle that?
1. They went to more trouble to get it...so i don't want to pay them more.
2. It's not a "new" car anymore...so should I pay less?
I would have thought by now that these cars would have been more widespread. Anyone know how long it takes to get from factory?
Sorry for all the questions...this is my first new car experience and I'm in love with this car...I just hope I can get it. ;(
Good thing you gave them the deposit on a credit card--you can file a complaint with your card company if there is any problem getting the car, and they will investigate for you and help you get your money back.
If the dealer cannot honor the original agreement, then you are within your rights to cancel the agreement and get your deposit back.
At any rate...I spoke with him this morning and he said he's not getting call backs from the dealers that have the car I want. He also said that he ran the criteria for my car on the search and they were able to find more in either the dark gray or silver. So...I'd accept those colors as well.
I guess the question is, how long do I wait before I cancel the contract?
And...any word on how long it's taking to order from the factory these days?
As for how long you wait, that depends on your patience and the terms of your agreement with the dealership.
Did Edmunds' get persuaded by the dealers to up that price so that customers felt happier?
In the end, the dealer was convinced that they could get me back in the financing, offering me a choice between a lease with an effective APR of 18% and a loan with an APR of over 9%. Having excel on my phone helped change that one and they finally gave me a loan at the rate I could have gotten from Capital One.
Here's what Edmunds.com says about how TMVs are calculated:
http://www.edmunds.com/about/pricingtable/lo/about_pricing2.html
This happened to me about 4 weeks ago. I live in Tucson, AZ...110 miles south of PHX. At the time I was looking to purchase a Versa and no one in Tucson had an SL model. So, I went looking in PHX. ABC Nissan called me back with some okay pricing on an SL, CVT, ABS. I asked for the out the door because I wanted to put $1,200 down on the vehicle and finance the rest thru USAA. He replied...$17,125. I decided to take it. The guy even drove the vehicle down from PHX to deliver it to me. Upon the final signing of the paperwork, there was a discrepency in the price. I thought it was going to be 17,125-1,200=15,925. His numbers were 18,325-1,200=17,125. I told him I would meet him half way. He wouldn't do it. I reviewed my budget and offered 18,000. He still wouldn't do it. So, I sent him back to PHX.
I got a call from his manager an hour or so later to see how the deal went. I told him that there was a miscommunication in the final price. The guy then goes into the make me feel bad for not purchasing the car rhetoric. I told him it was an honest miscommunication between a motivated buyer and seller. I tried to remain civil and unemotional as possible.
The next morning, at 8 a.m., I receive a call on my cell phone. This is the transcript of the conversation: "Hello. Yes. " and then he hung up. I immediately re-dialed the call and got the voicemail for the salesmen who drove the car down the afternoon previous. Needless to say I was extremely irrate. I called the dealership and asked for a manager or supervisor and read them the riot act and asked that they destroy all the personal information of mine that they had. I also called the police and filed a report. The manager of the dealership called me back and said that they had a sit down with the salesmen and "wrote him up". I persistently asked her why any of her salesmen would engage in such behavior over a deal gone wrong. She offered no real explanation and talked around the topic.
I don't know about the rest of you, but where I work, if I threatened a customer...I would have been canned on the spot. Anyway, just wanted to share this little gem of a car buying experience.
Well, come that day and that time and he didn't show! Turns out he drove a Lancer GTS over to the Tucson Air Show that day and "totally forgot about our meeting in Benson."
Well, long story short, I bought a '08 Lancer GTS from Avondale Mitsubishi, on the border of Phoenix.
This guy went into an e-mail tirade about me mistreating him. I kindly reminded him of our meeting. He told me that I would have to take my Lancer over to Phoenix just to that dealer(I bought from) for service because he wouldn't let me get serviced there in Tucson or Sierra Vista, another 10 miles further from me than the Tucson store is.
I e-mailed another salesman whom I have been in contact with for months and he told me that that guy was full of hogwash and that I could take my Lancer GTS to the Tucson or Sierra Vista or even Phoenix dealer if I so desired and to ignore this clown.
Funny how some people can be so blind to their own faults and instead see red when things don't go their way in sales. They should have much thicker skin than that to sell automobiles.
Anyhow, I won't belabor this post any longer..this thread is a Versa thread but I have followed the Versa for a long time too and couldn't resist commenting after reading your post, hbfever.
Oh, I love my '08 Lancer GTS, BTW.
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On a positive note...I ended up buying my Versa from Thoroughbred Nissan in Tucson and was treated very well.
Most of the work was done via e-mail..
Tony
I live in TORONTO CANADA , I have just signed a lease on a 2007 VERSA SL with CVT transmision , for 19,500 + tax = 22,230 $ CAD. I would love to know if it was well negociated??
Thanks for replying
Versa S
6-speed manual
Power package
ABS
Floor mats
$13,300.
Baron Nissan in Greenvale, NY. Low-stress, no-hassle.
My method was to basically call almost 35 dealers in the area. Got the runaround at Bayside Nissan (quoted me $12,035 to get me in the dealership, walked immediately when they came back with $13,700). Next up was Baron, and they didn't pressure or do anything "car-dealer-ish." Thumbs up. I think the price is good for the car I'm buying.
FYI, had a terrible experience with Dorschel Nissan here in Rochester. I recommend avoiding for another dealer.
So far love the car.
On the other hand, can anyone in Orlando, FL area recommend a trustworthy dealership as well as mechanics specializing in imported cars? I am in the process of relocating and would really appreciate any help you can give in this area.
Tony