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This will be a sad day indeed. The rest of the world will get the new and improved Land Cruiser and we will be stuck with a US only vehicle based on a pickup truck built in the US. I hope I am wrong.
Happy 4th of July ......
Lou
When I took delivery of my LX 470, the 3rd row right rear seat had been folded up, and when I took it down, the upper corner was folded and creased. It all smoothed out after a day in the sun. Then when I put the seat back into the folded position, I noticed that the seat corner gets smashed against the wheel well...is that just how it is?
Thanks all,
Alan
AB
I tend to take them out on long trips and set up a suspension theatre DVD system for my kids back there. They can also lay down and sleep.
I found a '00 with 34k miles and an '01 with 42k miles. I am going to check and see when the '01 was purchased and if the '00 is still under warranty.
thanks a lot!
Steve, Host
We also had our left side manifold replaced (cracked at 60k) under the 70k powertrain warranty.
We researched extended warranties, but didn't find one that would cover exhaust manifolds.
Dave
Both are terrific vehicles, and my wife loves the GX; it just wasn't the car for me from a driver's position and comfort level.
Best regards,
Alan
My questions: How good a deal is this? Is there anything I should be asking for or looking for?
Thanks to all.
Anne
p.s. am wife with two very small ones and live in remote area. Currently use Jeep to get around in winter (couldn't possibly get to my house without SUV and good 4 wheel drive). Need (want)fancier car and also little girls aren't good in bouncy jeep.
BUT...
From what I've seen, here in S. Fla a brand new 2003 LX will sell for your current used one's price in around five months (they're already selling for around 59K here according to Carsdirect.com). Five months from now dealers here will be trying to dump what's left of their '03 inventory and I've noticed that pricing gets very good down here during Lexus's "December to Remember" time. Figuring that you are not fond of the color and want a rear entertainment system (a $2,025 factory option), you may want to wait for end of year specials -- if you can. There are PLENTY of cheaper aftermarket DVD systems out there for your truck, but personally, I would not let anyone but a Lexus person fiddle with my 60K investment and you'd have to figure at least 2K for a dealer-installed and under warranty job.
Also, keep in mind that with the used one you have already lost a year of your bumper to bumper warranty (even a CPO will only get you 3 years vs. the 4 for new ones)..
If you really want that LX now, I'd try to negotiate with my sales rep so that maybe they can put in a rear ent. system at a significant discount. I'd also ask if they would offer you a discounted extended warranty price to make up for the year you've lost. Try to get them to do something for you to convince you make the deal happen now. If they know there's room to negotiate on this truck, they will. In any case, it is a super suv and I'm sure your family will love it. Good Luck!
Ana: Get the color and specs you want. Dont save 5K on this car and lose warranty time. 10k miles is alot, and you dont know how hard those miles were driven or towing, etc. IMO, this used one is not worth it.
Warranty question: If you want to keep this car over 4yr/50K, get it if only for piece of mind, as if you need an out of warranty repair it could cost you big $$$$$. Also, lex platinum warranty is fully refundable if you buy and dont use. We bought one.
Good luck to all.
LoL! I would hope that we'd get peace of mind but I suppose piece of mind is what we contribute on message boards! ;-)
tidester, host
I was seriously thinking about the GX and if I weren't coming out of an LX it would probably have blown me away - it is that good. But if you have gotten used to the LX it is a different story. The comments on the GX board about vibrations at certain speeds are also troublesome. I drove it for 25 minutes and got it up to 60mph but didn't feel any such vibrations as I was accelerating or cruising. It's hard to believe Lexus would have such a widespread problem but I take those posters seriously and there are a number of them.
Long and short of it is that my LX lease is up at year end and I've decided to buy a 2004 LX this time, rather than lease, and take advantage of the section 179 tax deduction on 6000lb vehicles.
What will be interesting is to see what happens with the GX. One thing I was told - a while back - by my Lexus sales rep is that the Toyota Landcruiser will not be discontinued at all - but will come in two versions - the current one and a Hummer like one. The GX may then move to the TLC platform, effectively replacing the current LX. But GX sales have been running ahead of expectations - more in the 35-40k annual range than the 25k Lexus was shooting for. So it may not be smart to enlarge the GX. Let's see what happens.
I did nothing of the sort. I found your "typo" humorous and thought you would agree. Oh, well!
tidester, host
How did you manage to develop this intel on the next generation LX?? I have looked everywhere I could think of, and found nothing! Your last name is not Tenet, is it?
Mike
I pray for a more powerful LX. I think Lexus would gain some market share back if they could compete with Denali and Navigator on horsepower.
I heard someone mention putting Land Cruiser suspension components in ? If so, approx. how much would that cost ?
Thanks in advance!
Can anyone quote prices they got recently on an LX loaded with everything including the DVD entertainment system. I just may buy a late 2003 model. Also is the night vision any good? I have tons of deer in my area and thought it could be helpful. The only thing I wish the truck had that is missing is that rear camera. This thing NEEDS it when you are backing out of parking spaces in shopping centers and malls etc.
Lou
The Issue
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A groaning noise, especially apparent when reving the engine. Also a distinct loss of power. More noticeable when climbing steep hills or accelerating.
When it Occurs
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Only when ambient temperatures reach into the upper 90s and above. At lower temperatures the vehicle behaves fine.
Theory
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The fan clutch reacts to ambient temperature and slips when cooling is not needed. It locks when more cooling is necessary. When it locks, the rpm of the cooling fan is higher, thus the noise. This is not new technology and has been utilized for years. It is called a viscous clutch mechanism.
The theory is that the viscous clutch is locking up at the higher ambient temperatures, causing the fan to spin faster. This accounts for the noise and the power loss. Several subscribers have experience with this in other vehicles and point out that when the viscous clutch locks-up the fan takes a tremendous amount of power from the engine.
See Also
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There has been on-going discussion on the Edmund's discussion group titled "Toyota 4Runner".
Other V8 Equipped Toyotas?
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If other V8 equipped Toyotas do not display this behavior, then I would speculate that maybe there's something different about their cooling systems. Maybe the 4Runner (and GX470), being smaller, didn't have as much room for as big a radiator. Maybe they compensated by using a viscous clutch with a lower "lock-up" temperature???
Articles
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http://www.atra-gears.com/gears/2002-10/2002_10_64.pdf
http://service.gm.com/techlink/html_en/pdf/200207-en.pdf#dst01
What experiences has anyone had with anything like this on any 4.7L V8 equipped Toyota?
Thanks,
Eric Rentschler
Hi, I've be the owner of several cars from the Mercedes stable, but I'm now in the market for an SUV and the Lexus LX 470 caught my eye. Seems to have a great interior and plenty of toys for me. Anyways I've notice that Edmunds has the car (LX 470) going for about $2000 below sticker (69,100 is MSRP for the vehicle I'm looking for)...does that sound right? How realistic is that ? Or should I push for a price closer to invoice? I'm in the New York, L.I. area (the air is thick with RX 300's here). Also I've noticed a Dealer Holdback for the model, how exactly does this work?
Any feedback on the Navigation System and the Night Vision option, is it worth it?
Thanks
Sonny
I'm curious about the night vision as well as I live in Monmouth county and just saw 3 deer cross my lawn. During nighttime in the fall they are all over the place and a few of my neighbors have hit them.
The Lexus DVD based Nav system and the Mark Levinson stereo are the best in the industry and the truck rides like an S-class or LS430 sedan and is very quiet.
In any case, if I needed to buy now, or if I wanted to lease and needed a good cap cost figure, I would check with carsdirect.com -- try out several zip codes around the country and see what you find. Right now in my area a fully loaded LX with nightvision, rear ent, etc., etc. (around 70K msrp)is going for around 65K. If past experiences come true again though, come December it'll be invoice plus tax and dealer fee and you're done! I'm waiting 'till "December to Remember" to get my wife's '03 LX.
Good luck shopping!
I'm curious to see if Lexus will be more price competitive with the new Nissan and Infinity coming out. I'm not sure if the competition will hurt them or not, but the LX is an aged model. Frankly I love it, I'd just like to see the price come down and am looking for reasons why it might.
Any comments?
Sonny
WARNING: If your wife isn't sure of the color (black)now.. you'll probably regret it as the years go by.... for the amount of cash you're spending you should stay away from any "lingering doubts"
Good Luck!
$58k is a great price. I really want what you seem to be getting in the LX plus the video DVD entertainment system.
Thanks in advance!
Some folks in here have great info on warranty prices, etc... also check they Toyota landcruiser & sequoia forums for some extended warranty input. Also there are some Landcruiser owners who know these babies inside and out and could suggest what problem areas (mechanical) to look for -- I mostly see them posting over on the Landcruiser forum. Check it out if you haven't already.
By the way..Nice truck! Congrats.