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Future Collectibles--Make Your Prediction
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We can see already that collectors are now choosing cars they can race or take on historic tours...the big, old, slow cars, with some exceptions, are stagnant or losing value.
Turbo Regals and GN's
'86-93 Mustang GT's preferably convertibles with a five speed
'93 and up Firehawks
'96 and up Ram Air and SS F-bodies
Possibly Talon AWD turbo cars
"loved when new, loved when old"
Nobody cares about Talons, new or old.
Of course, there's the other rule:
"all valuable cars are rare, but not all rare cars are valuable".
At least the Buick is putting up some decent numbers...the other cars are still behaving like used cars, and depreciating every year...so the jury's still out on them.
Essentially these are the same car, but which do you think has the better chance of being more valuable in the future, obviously that is a big gamble at this point, and that isn't his motivation for buying, but it seemed to be an interesting question.
My immediate response would have been the Pontiac as it has just that little more refinement - but what do you guys think?
May the Buyer Beware!
And, were they especially prone to rust and deterioration? Somebody told me that there are a FEW AMC enthusiasts, but I haven't found any!
The AMX from 68-70 with the big 390 engine probably has the best chance of achieving some sort of collector status, but the cars won't ever be anything like the "real" muscle cars from GM, Ford and Chrysler.
What does everyone else think about this?
Case in point...try to get an 8-track tape deck fixed, or an old MSDOS computer, an old VCR, etc.
So the VERY old cars may benefit from all this, as you don't need much technology to fix a 1957 Chevy.
The chips in cars are fairly small and uncomplex in modern terms. If the coding is available, (Jim Conforti has BMW's source code) there's no reason that a new programable chip couldn't be installed to replace a burned out one. There are already programmable chips available for Chevys and Fords (See Car and Driver) for the purpose of improving performance. So, as with the radio example, future chips might not be OEM but will run the car. Parts is parts and chips is just parts. Just like somebody could make a new carb jet if it were needed somebody in the future will burn a board or it's functional equivalent for you. I expect that you'll be able to get replacement parts molded in plastic too as time and computer modeling improve small batch casting technology All it takes is money.
-Andre
Are you teasing your host, or if not, why do you think this car would be a collector's item? If style, performance and desireability are three of the major criteria for collectibility, the Metro kind of strikes out, doesn't it?
How does one expect a three cylinder, sub-subcompact econo-car to ever be worth anything? How many 1960's Toyotas are collector cars? With the possible exception of the MR2, I don't think Toyota ever has, or ever will make a collector car. Same goes double for Geo.
It's very very hard for ANY car that is mass-produced to become a true collectible, almost impossible. This is not to say people won't want them in the future--it's just that they won't pay big bucks for them...again, because there are so many, they can pick and choose. Mass production insures a buyer's market in other words.
I was tempted to buy it, but I had no need for it. She would've taken $3000 for it (I think), but the thing was almost too beautiful to let sit outside, let alone drive! It was in better shape than any mass produced 70's car has a right to be. (and they don't get much more mass-produced than a late 70's T-bird)
-Andre
The SVX, being a 4-door and being japanese, has two strikes against it historically in the collectible car market (very very few Japanese cars are collected, and very very few 4-doors are collected), so I'd say it's a rather poor bet for future collectibility. If it had, say the horsepower of the Impala SS 4-doors or the good looks of the Jaguar 3.8 sedans, maybe it would be different, but it is an odd-looking car of modest performance with no real heritage. Nonetheless, it is interesting in its own way, so always saleable if the price is right.
-Andre
Back in 1982, my best friend's dad bought a very unusual little truck. A Dodge Rampage.
For those who don't remember, it was basically an Omni made into a small pickup.
I remember walking around it and shaking my head. It was so small and so different.
Well, now my buddy's 84 year old parents have decided to go from two cars to one and want to sell the Rampage.
It's a five speed with A/C. So. Calif always garaged with a whopping 28,000 miles on it. My buddy says there is some paint fading (silver) but otherwise like new.
And, he wants 2000.00 for it.
A couple of years ago, one of the old car mags listed it as a "Future Collectable"
They only made these for three years.
What do you guys think....Shifty?
Still, if it's in good shape, and you like it, that's all that matters. My favorite Mopars from the early 80's are the Dodge Mirada/Chrysler Cordoba LS (and the last of the R-bodies). They'll probably never be collectible either, but if I found a nice one and had the money, I'd pay it!
Let us know what U decide.
-Andre
For 2 grand, I could dump it later and not lose a dime if I get tired of it.
I browsed through the internet. It looks like these things (like many wierd cars) have a small but pretty loyal following.
I'll probably do it if nothing else for the adventure.
I hope it doesn't mind the exercise!
now wouldn't that be fun?
I didn't think that puny 2.2 engine was capable of too much. I have heard that they are pretty reliable.
If someone offered it to me, I'd probably buy it too. At least it has a pick up bed so you can consider it marginally useful.
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