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Toyota RAV4 2007
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So somebody fixed this, I was getting tired of seeing Toyota RAV4 discussions In the Honda CR-V category.
thanks
Bottom-line price was only $1,500 more for the Rav4 with these comparable specs:
GLS vs. base
Base engine (2.7 vs 2.4)
Hyundai's standard 10 year 100,000 mile warranty vs. purchased 7 year 100,000 bumper-to-bumper from Toyota.
The Santa Fe had the nicer interior. Driving impressions were quite different. The Santa Fe felt much more massive and lethargic. The Rav4 is an absolute hoot to drive, agile with a tight turning radius. Interior room is as good in the Rav4, but I suspect the Santa Fe is 500 pounds lighter. Mileage at 2400 miles is a little over 26 mpg (mixed city, suburban and highway). The Hyundai salesman and the Edmunds forums say that the 2.7 liter Santa Fe will get realistic numbers between 17 and 21. No contest!
Quality of the Rav4 is primo. I couldn't be happier with my decision to buy the Toyota. I will probably buy another Hyundai in the future, but I have to say, Toyota is really competitive with the value factor, if one just looks into it. I think Hyundai has to be careful with their pricing. Case in point, the new Elantra. The price has increased quite a bit, which is hard to see because of the tricky packaging.
In three years or so, I'll be looking to replace my 2000 Taurus, and will look again at the small SUV segment (or possibly a crossover). I will look at the Asian brands again, and will look very closely again.
The Santa Fe is about 500 pounds heavier.
Hyundai Santa Fe vs Toyota RAV4 vs Mazda CX-7 vs Ford Edge
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Looks as if there might be a market for "bi-focal" sunglasses, dark above, less dark below.
so, I dont really know what to tell you. i'll be back for service anytime soon, hopefully then Ill have something. :confuse:
It is harder then I would have thought. One thing I am going to do is do some extensive test driving of both, doing about 70 MPH. I have found that the 5 minutes you take to test drive is not enough. I hate having seats that are not plush enough, and front leg room that would be good for a midget. Toyota is known for both those problems. They make quality but they are awful with the interior. Fraid to say it but the so called american car companies have the interiors down pat. They are just plain comfortable. Wake up Toyota and work on those interiors.
I am also more interested in interior noise and comfort at this point in the game. I can get either a RAV4 base or Santa fe GLS for about the same exact price. I even think reguardless of 2007/2008. You just dont's save enough to go for the lower year in most cases.
As far as extended warrenties go. I would never have purchased a 7 year 100k for a Toyota it defeats the purpose of buying a Toyota. I looked into getting one from sams club for my Sienna orginally they wanted like 1600 but as the years went by they moved it up to 2000.00+ with I think 0 or 50 deductable I can't recall. But if I had done that I would have not really gained much. The dealer offer was even worse like 5 year/100k at that as all they offered. With the mileage I put on cars it would only be a 5 year for me. Toyotas can pull that off with their eyes closed so it was kinda useless to me.
Where as the Hyundai really needs to offer that deal because of its reputation.
I can see the quality still in the Toyota product beating the Hyundai. But they are starting to fight back. Also the Hyundai sales people are kinda pathetic. Which in a way is a good thing. They are much more willing to drop below invoice. You can go to a dealership and be the only person there. Now thats buying power.
Many manufacturers are currently transitioning their V6 engines to DFI, Direct Fuel Injection. DFI allows compression ratios of ~12:1 and therefore significantly improved FE over previous V6 engines.
So, until this is done with I4 engines there might very well be a period of time wherein smallish V6 engines will yeild better FE numbers than the larger displacement I4 engines.
There is also the matter of CVT's and more gearbox ratios currently being used with V6 engine vs I4's that tilt the FE numbers toward V6's.
Seems desparate to me but it is true that the clear majority of the automotive buyers want, above all, hp/torque,HP/TORQUE.
V8, V6, I4, in that order, so the manufacturers, in order to keep their fleet average FE down, concentrate on the bigger engines, higher volume sales, first, insofar as improving FE is concerned.
I thought the headlights turned on automatically, but after checking with the dealer, they don't. I do miss that feature as well.
Ronn
Next question - [4cyl] At cold startup, with its fast idle, putting the transmission in "D" results in a "pause-lurch" that can't be good for the drivetrain. Is this normal?