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Have to say that I will never buy another Kia. If anyone is thinking of buying one, just ring the parts department and get a few prices on parts.
Shame really. I love the van but if the valves are bent on mine then I am afraid I will be scrapping it. That is at five years old. Never had one that has cost me so much in repairs.
I was in contact with a Cheyenne WY Kia dealership, and they replaced the junction box,pn is either 91950 4d020 or 91950 4d040 depending on your vin # filter., on a different van.
Sounds like a similar part. I hope this fixes my NO start condition. Thanks for listening....
Multiple trips to the dealer. They said it was because I needed a transmission service. So I paid for that and it did not help. Thought that the transmission was bad because it only did this in Drive, not in Neutral or Park. Then they replaced the transmission and called me to pick it up. I get out of the parking lot and it is jerking (hiccuping) again. Never stalls but acts like it is going to. Next trip in I am told that I need a new fuel filter, a fuel injector cleaning. I called my father (ASE Certified Master Mech) and he said it couldn't be fuel filter or injectors if I could do 80 without a problem which I have no problem doing. So I declined and gave up. I did get my fuel injectors cleaned at another place and it did not help (except for my mpg). After 4 months & weeks without a car & fighting with Kia I gave up. Figured it wasn't going to leave me stranded. Drove it for a year like that. Jerking, jumping, acting like it was going to stall (rpm dropped to 0).
I took my van in today for the timing belt, brakes (at 64,000!!!) and complained again. Ironically, the service advisor says they have encountered it since then and have figured out it is the plentium. It was getting to much air into the engine. They called and said I should replace spark plugs since the engine was apart, I agreed. So I picked it up tonight and so far no jerking, lunging, hiccuping. I hold my breath at every stop light waiting for it to return. Hopefully, this is the cure.
I did tell them it would have been nice if they would have called me when they figured it out, since I was on first name basis with the whole garage and basically spent months there.
So I am not crazy afterall.
Never heard of it. What is it?
I own 2006 Kia Sedona EX and like the people who posted here earlier, I'm having the same starting problem. The car won't start, no crank sound, power seems okay, etc. It's already been to the shop for the three times. For the first visit, they replaced the starter. For the second visit, (after reading the posts here) I suggested them to replace the junction box and they replaced it. And I had the problem again(!). This time the dealership people said that the car started okay when they tried there and couldn't duplicate the issue.
I'm currently talking to the Kia consumer assistance center now so that they can repurchase this crap. If this doesn't work, I'll invoke the lemon law procedure.
I am wondering if the people who had the same problem before and fixed it in one way or another haven't had any bad experience afterward. Would you let me know?
Also, if any of you have had Kia to buy back your lemon before, please share any tips, experience, etc.
Thank you in advance!
Kia Sedona Recall # 06V349000- ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING
Component:
ELECTRICAL SYSTEM:WIRING
Summary:
ON CERTAIN PASSENGER VEHICLES EQUIPPED WITH ADJUSTABLE BRAKE PEDALS, THE STOP LAMP SWITCH WIRING HARNESS MAY BE OUT OF POSITION. AN IMPROPERLY POSITIONED STOP LAMP SWITCH WIRING HARNESS COULD MAKE CONTACT WITH THE U-JOINT ASSEMBLY OF THE STEERING COLUMN. REPEATED CONTACT MAY EVENTUALLY CAUSE THE WIRING HARNESS INSULATION TO CHAFE.
Consequences:
CHAFED INSULATION COULD CAUSE A SHORT OF THE WIRING HARNESS RESULTING IN THE LOSS OF BRAKE LIGHTS, ENGINE STALLING, OR AN INABILITY TO START THE VEHICLE INCREASING THE RISK OF A CRASH.
Our Kia Sedona 2006 was towed to the dealer this morning for the third time for not starting. The first time they said it was a loose push pin in the fuse box by the drivers
left knee. The second time a dead battery, which I don't believe, because we had lights, and power everywhere and the van wouldn't turn over even when I tried to jump start it.
My concern is they didn't want to have the same problem listed two times. The third time it broke down was the exact same symptom and the first two, the vans working fine, you shut it off and when you try to restart everything is working except the starter,
it doesn't even make a sound. I am having problems with the communication between the dealer & Kia's consumer hot line, it seems they are not linked in their computer system. I argee with you, if they can't fix this and SHOW ME WHAT HAPPENED, I will try to use the Lemon Law to get it replaced. If anyone has found the solution to this problem I would love to hear from you, it's getting old seeing my wife and two young kids waiting in a broken down new van.
tdonahue
I've also been talking to someone at the Kia Consumer Assistance Center in California, but she's not helpful at all, either. I already requested for the repurchase of this car and they declined. I'm gonna contact her again this afternoon, but I don't expect anything useful will happen.
I haven't decided whether I should go through the BBB Autoline arbitration or hire a Lemon law attorney yet. tdonahue, if you happen to be in California, we probably can share some information, as the lemon law differs state by state. If any of you could recommend a good lemon law attorney in northern California region, I'd appreciate it.
This is indeed ruining my everyday life.
The message below is my e-mail to the the Northeast consumer head.
Hi Ken
I thought you would want the notes I made of our conservation on 7/16/07.
1. My questions were below.
a. What is wrong with the van.
b. What is being done to fix the van.
c. How can I be sure this will work.
2. Your responses were.
a. Kia is replacing an "IPM" in the circuit box in the dash.
b. This IPM controls the charging circuits and the starter.
3. I said that if this doesn't work I would be filing a "Lemon Law" claim.
a. I have checked with the Attorney Generals office and found that I do
qualify under the statute.
b. Your response is it would not reach this point that if the van has another
problem you would be proactive and get us into a new van.
c. We will determine a sum to compensate us for monies we have spent
getting the van back to the island the three times we have had it in the shop.
I appreciated your efforts to resolve this issue.
The van was at the dealers for the last ten days being driven every day without a problem after the IPM module was replaced. The explanation I received is this module is the part of the computer that tells the van to when charge the and the problem we were having was the can would run until the battery was depleted. This module also has some control over the starting circuit. We brought the van home yesterday and have our fingers crossed. If it fails to start again I will enforce the Massachusetts Lemon Law. The previous failures have happened within four days of the van being worked on.
Wishing you luck
tdonahue
Thoughts? Anyone care to jump in here?
Has trouble starting. Knocking under glove compartment-needs a part. Door handles were damaged when we bought it-repainted 3 times, replaced once & new handles are on order again. Sliding door handle fell off in child's hand when trying to get out-on order. Sliding doors would not stay opened-looked at three times, replaced tracking once & it's acting up again. Keyless Entry doesn't always work on sliding doors & hatch back. Back tire keeps losing air. Paint dings terribly. Steering wheel squeaks & feels hard to turn-needs part. Steering wheel shakes badly & sometimes the entire van does. Seats are hard to lock into position when they are being lowered back or raised forward. CD Player stops working sometimes & also causes CDs to jump. Engine smells hot. Jumped from park to reverse the other day & I nearly hit the car behind me.
Of course, none of these things can be duplicated or we are given some of the many excuses we have read on this forum & others.
We have talked to the owner of the dealership & have asked for our money back. They won't give us our money back. They want $6,000 to trade it in. We have told them that we think this van is a safety hazard & that we aren't the only ones having these problems. The owner says he has contacted Kia & they stand behind their vehicles. Spoke with Kia today & they say that reimbursement is between our dealer & what our state requires.
Does anyone have any advice as where to go from here?
Does anyone know if there is a Class Action Suit against Kia?
Thank you
The third time at the dealer for the not starting issue the factory tech advised changing the IPM module in the fuse box behind the dash board by the drivers left knee. This was done on 7/17/07 and the van has been problem free since. We were having four days between the van being returned and it's not starting before this part was changed.
The discription I received from the New England Serivce Manager is as follows.
1. The IPM is more than a fuse it's a computer chip.
thank you so much for that info tdonahue
Give me a break.
:lemon: :sick:
Good luck everybody!!!!!
Our Sedona has run perfectly since the IPM module was replaced. I'm attaching the e-mail address and phone number to contact the North East service manager. The womans name is Sam, she can get your the answer these people found.
NEW ENGLAND CONSUMER
1-856-608-1305 SAM EXT 123
SIjames@kiausa.com
The place I've seen a breakdown in Kia seems to be their data base. When one dealer finds & solves a problem the answer should be available to all the other dealers in the States. I've sent this concern to Kia and maybe if we all do it will help someone else down the line. The way I located the IPM module issue was calling another dealer 25 miles from our dealer who had solved the problem months ago, sent the info into the company via their computer system but the info wasn't available to my dealer.
Terry
It's great to hear Kia has a tech notice out about this problem, it should save other people from having to go through the problems we all did.
Terry
i have a sedona 2004 model i have a starting problem,all i get is a clicking noise when trying to start.has anybody had the same problem and did you find out what the problem was in the end. it will start after a few attempts but it is getting right up my back.please help
Here is a link to the bulletin:
http://www.kiatechinfo.com/TechInfo/KMATSB/board_view.asp?docu_no=356&page=
You should also register the problem at Kia Consumer Affairs (800 - 333 - 4KIA (4542)). They were pretty helpful with our case.
Anybody found a solution for this problem when replacing the IPM doesn't work?
So now it has required three tows, two new replacement IPMs and a reversed starter relay. As of this morning, I'm back on the road, with my fingers crossed for every cold start. If I don't post again here, you can assume this was the final solution for my Kia's start problem.
We own a 2006 Sedona, with the luxury package. We are located in Alberta, Canada. The in service date is March 18, 2006. We love the way the van drives, the power under the hood and the number of features. When the van is running, in my view, it can't be beat.
However, we have been having numerous problems with getting the van started. The problems started approximately 3 months into our ownership of the van. At first, we thought that we had left a door open or a light on. However, after boosting hte van a couple of times ourselves, we took it in to the dealer.
Its been at the dealership 5 times. According to the workorders, the problem was first, a loose battery cable (which had been undone by them when performing one of the campaigns on the van); second, an abundance of dialectric grease; third the Immobilizer Transponder, and fourth the IPM.
The van still has intermittent starting problems. Today we went to go out, and the power sliding side door would not open using the key fob button. It would not open by pulling on the door handle. When I got into the van and put the key in the ignition, there was barely enough power to light the dash lights.
As I type, the van is on its way back to the dealership. This will be the second trip back since the IPM was replaced. The last time it went in, they techs said they could not find any "codes" from the computer. Further, they said that after they boosted the van, they could not find any electrical components that were drawing "out of spec" while the van was not running. He said that the only explanation was that we had left a door open.
I found this to be an odd comment because, other than the driver and front passenger doors, all the other doors are power operated doors. Additionally, it would certainly be a remarkable situation to leave a door ajar 7 or more times!
In any event, if anyone has any insight or suggestions, I welcome their thoughts.
I would suggest looking at the IPM again. We had the starting problem which was related to the IPM that told the van to charge the battery. What I learned was the IPM was not only defective but part of the defect was it's failture to not inform the vans centeral computer that it was not operating. we had the same problem whit nothing coming up when the tech plugges the van into the diagnostic computer. Our van would run until the battery was discharged than
not start.
Hope this helps
Terry
Good luck, our van went back to the dealer three times but once the part was
replaced we haven't had any more problems.