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2007 Acura TL Type S
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As I said, I always got there on the Turanzas, just with a little more TLC. If I can just get up my driveway with no drama, the Versados will be declared a winner!
I've always driven FWD w/all seasons (without incident, knock wood) so as not to have to purchase/store/rotate snow tires. Lazy and less efficient, well yes. What can I say. But again, no issues.
I am considering a RWD for my next ride, so I will be going the snow tire/separate rims route if I do so. I've just too often seen RWD cars not being able to get there from heah, when my FWD indeed could.
Not quite ready for snow, yet... Hang on, summer!
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
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I don't know how much winter driving through the snow you are planning on doing, but an extra set of winter wheels and tires may be adviseable if you expect to encounter 4+ months of snow conditions.
I leased a 2007 TL Type-S at the beginning of September and have less than 1,000 miles so far. Unfortunately, about 2 weeks and 300 miles after I got it I noticed gas was pouring out from under the car on day. I had the car towed and the dealership said there was a cut in the high pressure fuel line. They didn't know the cause but replaced the line (or so I am told).
Now I go to get in the car yesterday and after starting it up my wife tells me gas is pouring out again. I turn off the car, pull my son out and call Acura TLC to have the car towed again! :mad:
At this point I refuse to take back the car. This isn't some silly rattle or door closing problem it is a death risk! Questions for those out there...
1) Have any of you heard of this issue (I assume it is simply a manufacturing flaw...hopefully limited to a couple cars)?
2) Any advice on what to do? One cigarette butt from a neighboring car tossed out the window at a red light and I am dead. I don't know how the lemon laws apply, but I sure as heck am not about to give them a couple more tries with the fear that the next time I don't catch the leak in my driveway. (I just finished the first month of a 36mo lease)
I love Acura/Honda, I have a MDX and my previous car was a 2004 TL (and before that an Accord). This event makes me want to run for the hills. Thoughts?
That is besides the point though as this is still dangerous. Call up Acura's customer care center or whatever they call it. Tell the person who answers the phone the story and when they try to down play it ask for the highest level person available at the time. Tell them what happened and just keep telling them. We had this happen to a LR3 several years ago and the guy called the fire department to his house. One or two calls to Land Rover and they took the car back very quickly.
Define "pouring". I once had a cut/break in my fuel line and it only dripped. And, if I'm not mistaken, the fuel pump had some sort of automatic shutoff in the event a leak was detected.
It sounds to me like your dealer blew the original diagnosis and/or did a poor job of fixing it. But I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bathwater just yet. If there is a visible leak that is "puring" gas, it should be pretty easy for them to fix or replace the fuel line system completely.
Really??! :confuse:
So I should be able to safely ignore all those signs at the gas stations and light one up while I'm re-fueling?
canwill let us know how it works out.No offense br, it just seems like a pretty scary thing to contemplate!
My college roommates Uncle, and yes I know that makes it sound like an urban legend, used to do this trick all the time. He was an old school race car driver that raced in the IMCA series and I remember him doing this at his shop quite a few times.
They used it as a kind of hazing ritual for the new guys on the team. He said 9 times out of 10 the gasoline would not ignite. Still a 10 percent chance is a 10 percent chance so I wouldn't risk it. I guess the conditions really need to be ideal for the gasoline to ignite.
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Bodble2 is the one who put this out there. I'm waiting for him to tell us what happens. :P
A lit cigarette will not ignite a puddle of gasoline.
With that being said, I have no intetion of parking a TL or any other car with a gas leak on or near a lit cigarette.
It just goes against everything that little "keep me safe" voice in my head is always telling me.
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
I spent more time watching my rearview mirror than I did watching the road ahead of me. :P
Being that you posted in the Type-S thread, I assume you're looking at the Type-S?
You'll need winter rubber, and a skill to drive in the stuff.
I had the same decision to make and ended up with the G35x.
Do yourself a favor... drive both before deciding.
I was pretty much sold on the Type-S until I drove the G and then never glanced at the TL again.
There are many TL owners who can say the same about the G.
Only you can decide that... but one thing is for sure.
The G35x is leaps and bounds better in the white stuff than the TL...type-s or not.
Still a gas leak is a serious safety problem even if you don't have to worry about lit cigarettes.
My (non-S) '05 TL was rather poor in the snow due to, I hope, the Bridgestone Turanze EL42 tires. I made it through the last two Boston winters without incident, just a lot more TCS and ABS (as well as caution) action than I've ever had in the snow before. Turanzas are gone, we'll see how the Toyos handle the white gold.
I've driven FWD all my life to the mountains of New England. Never really had a problem with FWD/all season tires....until the TL.
Can't speak to TLs with other tires, but given equal treads, AWD will give you better traction through the snow. The question is, do you want to (or care about) carrying the added weight and complexity of AWD all year long?
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
Even with the AWD, I'm seriously considering winter rubber on dedicated wheels anyway.
I may put my Tirerack order in as early as this weekend.
So, you do use the rower occasionally? My Nordic Trac skier (which really is a great workout) has died of loneliness. Especially since I unplugged the treadmill it shares a room with... :sick:
'21 Dark Blue/Black Audi A7 PHEV (mine); '22 White/Beige BMW X3 (hers); '20 Estoril Blue/Oyster BMW M240xi 'Vert (Ours, read: hers in 'vert weather; mine during Nor'easters...)
My former hometown gets 100-120 inches of snow a year. If I was to move back, I'd still be hard pressed to get an AWD sedan. I think you can do just fine with the right set of winter tires in FWD or even RWD.
He suggested an eliptical machine, but I feel retarded on those things.
The rowing machine is awesome and it does one heck of a full body workout.
I use it on a fairly regular basis, but the wife will never think it's used enough, no matter how long I spend on that thing.
I should spend less time washing cars and more time rowing!
We live in the snow-belt and have 3-4 months of exposure to snow/sleet/ice. Have had many fwd cars, and rwd, in years past and always mount 4 snow tires on the cars for the winter. Have an 04 Acura TL and have had dedicated alloy rims with Dunlop "50" series snow tires. Got these at TireRack. Live in a rural area with a long uphill drive. The TL has been very good in snow, ice, slush condition. As with any vehicle though, the limiting factor on getting through snow is ground clearance. Knowing that the TL is not a high-standing suv, one must be prudent in attempting to drive through freshly fallen snow that is close to ground clearance dimension in order to not hang up.
I would never consider driving a vehicle in snow or ice with "all-season" tires. For sure, not with summer tires. Once got caught in an early snow with summer Pirellis on a Honda and it was nearly impossible to move or control.
With Infiniti G35 awd, what are penalties in extra weight, poorer gas mileage, and handling (in the dry) vs a rwd?
Yes, but not enough to keep me from owning one.
It's heavier, a little more hungry and not quite a nimble on the dry roads, but it's still an insanely fun car to drive.
I was also on the TL Type-S/G35x fence, and I'm glad than I fell in the direction that I did.
Both are super cars and I wish I could own both, but I had to make a decision and with 2 little ones being brought to school each morning, I figured the G would suit me perfectly.
Safe handling awd "Dad's car" when the kids are with me, and sport oriented speed and handling when alone.
I also opted for snow tires, even with the AWD.
Tirerack has Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50's on clearance for $99 (now down to $93)... and I had them mounted on dedicated 5 spoke aluminum wheels.
Came to less than $800 and they look awesome (for snowtires)
In the long run, it actually saves money, with the summer rubber being in the garage for 4 months a year.
Tirerack has Bridgestone Blizzak WS-50's on clearance for $99 (now down to $93)... and I had them mounted on dedicated 5 spoke aluminum wheels.
We have had WS-50's on our Ody minivan since Nov 2000 in winter time. They are great in snow/ice, "but" they are kind of spongy in the dry. Can kind of toss the Ody around a little with regular Michelins in summer/fall in the dry, but have to be very careful with the WS-50's.
If it's cold (Below 35), they're not as bad.
Most dedicated winter tires are this way, due to the softer compound.
The Blizzaks are a little more noticable though, yes.
Mine will not go on the car until the temp drops permanently, and will be off as soon as the temps start to hit above 40 during the day.
Very good point though... thanks
I've been looking at some low milege TL type S's with 6MT. Looks like they are selling on eBay in the 31-32 range. Good prices or not? Anything to look out for? What's the story on the struts, is there a range of VIN #'s to worry about?
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The TL-S can also be had with a taupe interior and black carpets. Does the taupe interior TL-S also have black headliner like the ebony version?
Any opinion on which interior looks better with a Kinetic blue or Carbon Bronze TL-S?
As with everything, there are pros and cons to every choice.
Good Luck with you decision.
I have 2 kids in car seats so leather is a plus. If the black carpet in all TL-S models is anything like our Odyssey Touring, it may get dusty but it hides stains well.
To add to the temptation my dealer called to offer invoice pricing plus 2.9% financing on the TL-S. I want to pull the trigger but spring '08 would be better timing wise for my finances.
Also considering a used RL but I think the TL-S is a very nice deal.
Just my 2 cents worth...Good luck with your decision
Spyder.
They do kick the back of my seats in my 2005 Accord Hyrbid and I hate cleaning the scuffs off. Scuffs do bother me. The TL has less rear leg room than the Accord so there would only be more back seat kicking!
The deals are great right now. If I can I want to wait till Spring to pay cash and I think the deals will be as good or better once a prototype 2009 TL is shown in public.
It is still mighty tempting to get the TL-S now. It has everything I want and need right now.