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Actually saw one in the parking lot at Lowes tonight. 99% sure it was that color. And it did look nice. A big different, but not something that looks like it will become trendy or outdated.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
My strategy get it in an email and let the other dealers fight it out and pretend that ur going elsewhere if they can't do better and they will continue to keep calling you to get their business. I am sure other people have done this before..?
Hello. Keep this in mind when you think about getting $3k off without a trade. They are going to make $3k or more on the trade so they could go below invoice on the new car. I think around $2k off MSRP is a great deal at this point in time without any trade or huge dealer fee. I was at an Acura dealer today and they had over 14 new RDX's on the lot. That same dealer usually only has about 4 in stock. Looks like some inventory is finally starting to catch up.
$34,500 for a base AWD is still a lot of coin, but way better than $36,600!
not as good as the $29,000 I can get a Subaru outback limited for (2013 redesign). Though that does not seem to be priority 1 for her...
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
What does the 2013 RDX qualify for?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
and in terms of amenities, I don't think the RDX has anything that the limited outback doesn't have. They both have the usual stuff. Power passenger seat, dual AC, plenty of the audio plugs, bluetooth, and what not.
resale, tough question, but I am looking more at 10+ years of owning.
I will, however, give you the style point, and for a large % of the population, that trumps all!
but, 6K+ goes a long way to making up for it.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
If not just leave and say I'm going to the next city's dealer..
They still make good money with $2k off sticker.. most of it is destination charge fluff..
At least $2k seems reasonable for the top trim from the offers I was throwing out
Look, these cars have no packages added to them so it will be very easy to find the right color if you don't buy it TODAY.
10 plus years of ownership does temper the impact of resale value, for sure, but it's still there. I would guess that after 10 years a Subie and Acura would probably be close in reasale value - percentage wise. If I'm going to drive something for ten years, I have to really like the way it looks in addition to all the other attributes. That's why it takes me so much anal research to decide. Hell, if I was leasing every three years it wouldn't be hard at all.
I am in NJ and would like to replicate this deal. I am looking for 2 RDX'13. Will you be able to share who you worked with?
Thank you in advance.
I'm looking at the 2013 RDX 2WD (haven't decided between Non-Tech & TechPkg) and wanted to ask for people to post their invoices (with their personal information redacted of course) so I can accurately determine a fair offer from the local dealerships.
Thanks in advance.
Please remember to NEVER discuss price in person or via the phone and ask for the agreed on details to be provided in writing (via email) and that all of the paper work be processed and filled out prior to visiting the dealership to take delivery.
Details would include the year, make, model, trim (Tech, base, etc), paint color, interior color, miles on the ODO, VIN, condition (yes it is NEW but is there any hail damage, repairs, etc), location (is it on the dealer lot or not?), are there any dealer installed options/accessories installed and if so what, and of course price. For price you need to break it down in at least this level of detail:
Invoice price of new car
+
Delivery Fee (as charged by Honda)
+
Cost of ANYTHING not on the Monetary label like pin stripes, wheels locks, etc.
+
Any additional dealer fees like "Internet Buying Fee" or other charges
This + tax and govt. mandated fees will be the cost of the vehicle if you do your job right and don't let the dealer slip in other charges. They will try hard!
If you have a trade you need to find out what the fair trade value is and expect no more than that and you need to be ready to ax the deal if they try to use the trade as a way to extract more money on the deal; i.e. offering you much less than its market value.
If you show up at a dealership before all of these detailes (except the trade) are agreed to in writing all bets are off
The one place I'll disagree is the advice never to discuss price by phone. In my experience, talking on the phone and getting handed to the sales manager is how you get that last few hundred off the price. You can always confirm via email before coming in.
Also make sure you've listed any accessories you want, such as the cargo tray, wheel locks, etc. You want to be negotiating on the whole package. I can't post my invoice, but my base RDX came in well below dealer invoice including accessories.
P.S. - A simpler way to summarize for the dealer is to ask for a quote including "all non-tax charges and fees." In some states government mandated fees can still vary by dealer, and you may be shopping across states, so you need to consider any differences in fees.
P.P.S. - I've mentioned this before, but tell the dealers that you don't care about color. Once you get your quote, if they don't have the color you want, another dealer with that color may match it.
INVOICE PRICING: $36,865. You got it for $$500 below invoice. Excellet, AFAIK! Was it easy?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Thank you for your post/reply.
Yes, I most certainly would like to know the specific details of your acquisition.
Also, what other vehicles did you consider and or compare prior to deciding on the 2013 RDX. Did you consider the 2013 FWD "non-tech?"
Thanks,
~rnole
Not sure how ignoring internet requests for quotes fits with Acura's sales approach but I do know such arrogance will simply force me to look at something other than Acura. I guess Acura's sales must be booming.
Of course one might inquire why the dealers have web sites inviting requests for quotes when their sales people simply ignore such requests. Strange!
I have done that with a couple of dealers in Jersey, an gotten specific price quotes back from all of them via Email. But that will depend on the dealership of course.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
It seems to me how a dealership responds to an internet inquiry may not result in an immediate sale but can have future impact.
For example, a couple of years ago, I contacted several Acura dealerships. Some did not respond, some responded with the silly "come on down response." Those I ignored. A couple (Norris Acura and Rosenthal Acura) responded very nicely. I bought from one of them.
Last year a bought second Acura for a relative. I recalled the dealer responses from the prior purchase and once again ignored the dealers who previously did not respond well. We went back to Norris and Rosenthal and we again bought from one of them.
This time I decided to give three other dealers in Maryland and Virginia an opportunity to sell me an Acura. Apparently, a useless bit painless endeavor.
It amazes me how so many sales people seem to be cluelesss as to how to use the internet to make a sale. An email inquiry is likely the first and only chance a dealer will have to turn a sales lead into an actual sale. Of course most leads will not turn into sales, but all leads ignored will not turn into a sale.
Dealers pay a lot of money for sales leads through the many third party web sites. Yet their sales people seem to ignore sales lead they get for free. Makes no sense to me.
- My phone number
- Trim and color of the model I wanted
- List of any accessories I want in the deal
- A statement such as "I am a price shopper and will go with the best deal, including all non-tax fees and accessories."
- A statement such as "I am ready to buy and want to complete this purchase by tomorrow, but can take delivery any time in the next 2 weeks."
My phone was ringing off the hook within 10 minutes.
They also know that the closing rate on email only people is very low. And they play a % game. Just because you are the exception to the rule (maybe!) does not mean they are going to know that, or spend time.
so, you get the "here is our internet price, when do you want to come in to look at it" response.
my experience, once you have actually gone in, looked at the car, and become a "real" buyer (connected to a salesperson) it is much easier to then have email negotiations.
keep in mind that the majority of Email people are just fishing for a price to shop at other dealers (or take to your local preferred one). Again, not something they want to spend a lot of time with, if they have real live customers to work on.
Still, I just recently got an internet quote from a NJ dealer that was followed up by a couple of emails from the internet person (who was not a saleperson), answering questions, but heavily were geared toward "when can you come in to look"? I was not at the point to check to see if I wanted to accept their offer, if I could have just done it via email. Most likely it would have taken a phone call.
my local dealer also sent an email quote, with a contact name if I had quesitons, but again, that was the internet department that pretty much just connected you to a salesman, just with a preset price.
Why not go to the place you prefer, with whatever price you have to beat, and just take care of nailing it down?
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Two reasons:
1) Sales people want to size you up over the phone to make sure you are somebody who is really ready to buy and willing to buy from their dealership today
2) They don't want to put some great deal in writing just so you can show it to their competitors
Questions for all:
--Anyone out there dealt with Montclair Acura yet?
--Thoughts of 2013 RDX when compared to the Q5? I need to drive one of those. My only concern is maintenance at the 5+ year mark. 1 year pre-owned would be OK.
--What is the invoice price for the 2013 RDX Tech AWD? MSRP $40,315.
--What are the cons/pros (if any) with buying out of state? Extra fees that I need to consider? (VA -> NJ or NY -> NJ, etc)?
Thanks, gentlemen and ladies! :surprise:
but, I know that Denville Acura is selling below invoice for in stock units, but I don't think they were even that low!
As to the Audi, my wife and I scoped one out but did not drive. Very nice, a bit small (but maybe not smaller than the Acura), and quite pricey.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
As far as that $1500 below invoice price that was previously posted, you'll notice the person has not come back and answered several queries about where exactly they bought it. Not saying anyone is lying but I personally don't believe it.
Still, no more Audi's for me.
We have an 04 MDX with 156K on it. It's been at the dealer once, for the 105K timing belt. That's it. Not one problem.
Savy buyers know any price given by a dealer is not the lowest price, even if given over the internet. However, selecting a dealer who provides a comptetive starting price rather than one who refuses to provide a price or provides one which is not comptetive starts the process at a much better price level for the buyer.
Regarding internet inquiries, sales people have no idea who is on the other end of the inquiry. Obviously, some may be serious and others not. So what? Not every sales lead results in a sale but surely sales leads which are ignored never result in a sale. Really, are sales people so busy on a weekday they cannot take a few moments to send an email?
Good internet sales people recognize a person asking for a price is expecting a price. Not responding to a specific customer request is most assuredly certain to drive that customer to another dealership.
Use of the internet gives the sales person one chance before the potential customer moves on. For every sales person ignoring an email inquiry there is another sales person who is most appreciative. In the age of the internet everyone knows pricing anyway. Ignoring that fact will not change it in any way.
A prime reason people use the internet is to avoid (1) telephone calls where a sales person can size them up and perhaps (2) to get a general feel of the sales practices of the dealership. As most of us understand, buyers should always maintain control of the process. Smart buyers use the internet to size up the sales person and dealership rather than allowing the sales person to size them up.
One might inquire, if a dealership is afraid to provide an offer, why do they bother with the charade of offering a price (click here for your special internet price) on their web site?
Oh, one final note, a customer does not need a written price from a dealership to show to a competitor. Anyone who thinks otherwise is ignoring the reality of today's market. In my experience, a verbal quote works just fine. If price is most important, a person need only tell the competitor the price and ask if they can beat it. If not, just go back to the other dealership. If the price is realistic, my bet is most dealers will match it or beat it.
I would also mention Norris Acura in Maryland which also seems to have a very robust internet sales department while saving a few bucks due to a lower doc fee.
Almost everytime I called a dealer / internet sales it got very aggressive and actually abrasive. Also some lies trying to lure you in. In my case, although not an Acura but I was trying to find out about the cars in their inventory what options does each one have. The person who answer the phone flat out refuses to tell you what it comes with. They are afraid the wrong options will turn me away. I was countered with 2 questions per each of my question.
Finally I improved my "e-mail only" rule and made it clear in my request that I will only consider your dealership if you tell me what options is on this car..
if you can't tell me this, I understand but I'm going to shop at another place.
And I started to get a picture of the MSRP sticker of the window or the dealer invoice listing exactly what the car has. A sales person who at least made an effort to walk out to the lot instead of trying some baiting tactics over the phone or e-mail was worth my sale even if I did not get rock bottom price.
Also never express too much interest in a car particular color or interior color etc. I made a mistake of trying to negotiate a set price on a car 8 hours drive away. I got excited and decided to give that "personal touch" of calling up the guy I had been e-mailing with, that's when they wanted me to sign a purchase order and put $1k on my credit card so I can pick it up that weekend, for that extra $200 off. I refused and the guy hung up on me. I could have done much better just flying in and do the offer. It was incredibly difficult to get each $100 off because I had expressed the interest and effort of wanting THAT particular car.
Although sometimes you WILL get a great offer via the e-mail or phone that blows the price of other dealers by almost $500-$1000. I ended up submitting a similar offer via e-mail ($2000 below invoice), after a consult with their GM it was accepted, oh cool, can you show me the car on saturday hopefully to close the deal? Of course. No phone call was needed.
I am looking at dchautomotiveparts dot com to buy accessories. It seems to be the cheapest genuine around.
Just an FYI I was quoted at $38,415 including destination fee for the AWD + tech package. For the AWD no tech package quote was $34,700 including destination.
Add onto this 6.35% for CT sales tax, registration, and documentation (dealer said their documentation was $298)
So including everything final prices
AWD + tech, about $41k
For AWD not tech, about $37k
Do these look like good prices?
Thank you!
I got the same deal in DFW. I purchased the AWD with Tech package including dealer options (tint, wheel locks and mats) for $38,350. Don't know if that is a great price, but it's too late now.
What dealership in DFW was this? Thank you.