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my son thinks he has somewhat found hopefully the problem. One of the fuses #37
was blown Its the one with the picture of a book on the diagram. put new fuse in
that fuse blew before even trying to start the car. Figuring its a ground but don't know where to start to look. Oh by the way the little symbol disappeared. And I did find out the key she has is the only one, and the dealership never gave her the black tag or they didn't have it to give her.
when it first occured there was a strong electical burning smell?? I would have assumed the VW tech's would have figured it out by now. with no luck I'm hoping someone out there may have come across this unique problem - thanks
If that has been ruled out... suspect that the fuel-pressure may not be stable. (after a few seconds, the pressure gets so low that the engine stalls)
Oh I should have known better then to speak so soon My son came for a visit guess what is staying... yes the car. After all that work now there is oil in the antifreeze.
does anybody have any clue what it could be now.
Hopefully you guys can help point me in a direction of what to do next as i'm lost as to what my next step(s) should be.
I have an '06 Jetta 2.5, 5sp man, pack 1, with 45,000 miles on it. I have been having intermittant issues getting it started after the vehicle has been previously recently driven. (brought to full operating temperature).
For example; car sits overnight, 7-9, hours in a garage. Get in to go to work, car starts just fine/normal. Car then sits for 3-4 hrs before my next attempt at starting the vehicle where the vehicle cranks but refuses to "fire-up" until it finally gives in and starts after several re-attempts at getting it started. Vehicle then starts but idles quite roughly.
First trip: I mention to dealer progressive difficulty getting vehicle started, dealer advises they do not experience the same issues.
Second trip: Dealer agrees to replace the battery, so now instead of fast "click, click, click" the car cranks (actual engine turn over) with much more intent but still doesn't start in the above situation.
Third trip: Dealer advises they finally experienced and/or witnesssed the problem themselves. Dealer replaces ignition control module. I get it home, decide to go to petsmart but cannot leave as my vehicle refuses to start.
Fourth trip: Dealer replaces the Altenator on the vehicle to no prevail.
Fifth trip: Dealer has had vehicle all week and has put 300 miles on it and cannot replicate issue once again. Dealer takes sample of the fuel to see if possible water in the gas issue? Nothing unusual found with the fuel but dealer notes they find possible mis-fire codes and rough idle issues in the computer. Dealer acknowledges they performed my $600 40k service. Dealer also sees I have never missed any service intervals. Dealer puts in a fuel additive and checks injectors to see if dirty but they are not. And to add insult to injury Dealer employs a group of greased Monkeys to finger paint on the headliner and interior of my vehicle. Dealer makes no comment but new headliner is currently on order and I still have a vehicle that starts but only when it wants too.
What does one do next? :sick:
Dealer however did call to say that they could not replicate the issue AND also stated they have not ever been able to replicate the issue?!? I inquired about the mis-fire codes and rough idle issue AND the replication of the issue that they previously advised me they too had experienced?
Dealer's response was, "well per Carfacts we see the vehicle has been involved in an Accident and the vehicle's paint is thicker on the right passenger side door and we're not sure if that may have something to do with it."
I am completely unaware of any prior damage other than what my purchasing dealership advised me when they repainted my front bumper and were shocked to find no primer. They mentioned possible damage at port? They re-painted front bumper and now its flaking off again at same location as before.
I now have copies of all service records at all locations. VAG doesn't seem to be open during any hours that most people would be able to call in and not surprisingly they over promised what they can deliver as didn't get a call back from the Regional Svc Mgmr.
I also still have the video of the car acting up and witnesses to this vehicles intermittant issues, so I know this isn't in my head.
I don't know what to do with this car.
Thanks for your input.
sorry to express my frustration, but i am really getting pissed off the sales rep that sold this car to a 19 year old as a first car should be shot. but than again money talks, i must say i am very glad that someone took the time to set something like this up. Just for people like us. But isn't it sad that no a-days you can't even trust dealerships- to be able to give you answers if the computer doesn't give a code or what ever no one knows what to do. My son even talked to a VW dealership and was told they have no clue, that they need the codes.
You are right that some have no clue how to actually troubleshoot, isolate, and resolve a problem when no codes are thrown.
Also, it sounds as if that 19-year old could have got some better "guidance" when purchasing a 1st car that is turbocharged.
Turbocharged VW engines *NEED* to have synthetic oil and hi-octane fuel. If that engine ever had "dyno" oil run in it, it may have suffered from sludging. (oil-passagways getting plugged up).
Also, I assume that "machine shop" checked the planarity of the head while replacing gasket?
At least she is hopefully learning a valuable lesson about buying a car.
Let me know if you get any where with this.
good luck
I took off the entire air intake and fuel injector system off the car and gave it a good cleaning. Put everything back together, and it started-up again.
I'm not sure why. But it's working again.
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The door problem was diagnosed as bad cables to the door control system and is now currently fixed. I was also told that one of my glow plugs was bad so they were all replaced. While running my car through the diagnostics after the aforementioned maintenance the car stalled out again.
Has anyone encountered similar problems and if so, what was the cause?
Thanks in advance for help you may provide.
1) There is no "ignition" on a diesel engine - as long as fuel is injected and there is air... it will run.
2) The glowplugs have absolutely nothing to do with running the engine. They are only used during starting the engine below about 40F degrees.
Given the above, we can make the assumption that perhaps the supply of fuel to the engine may be a problem. It sure sounds like you are describing EXACTLY what "gelling" of the fuel would do to the engine. (Start fine - run for awhile and quit)
I would suggest you replace the fuel-filter and make certain you have added anti-gell to the fueltank. The WHITE bottle of "Power Service" available at Walmart is a very good product to use in the winter for EVERY fillup. (about 6oz per tank full)
I would expect that to resolve your stalling problem
When I turn the key on I don't have power to any of the Instruments and the Engine won't turn over. If you think that this would happen I'll gladly try it.
For the record the mechanic I took it to has an '01 jetta TDI so i would think that he would be aware of the possibility of "jelling."
You did not mention power to the instrruments. Of course this would not be caused by gelling.
With this new information, I would start at the PDU (Power Distribution Unit) which is attached to the top of the battery. Make certain all of the fuseable-links are snugged. Also verify the big red wire from the battery + to the PDU is clean and tight. I would also remove and clean the negitave terminal where it connects to the engine. While you are at it, remove and clean the big red wire connected to the alternator.
All of these points are known to get corroded and can cause all kinds of electrical problems on VWs.
The standard disclaimers of knowing what you are doing while working around a battery capable of 600 amps apply here. (disconect battery before doing any of this!)
Problem is same as the problem #22. But there are nor response to this post. I appreciate your suggestion.
FYI- It turned out that my computer went bad.
QUESTION: Do you add fuel-additive at every fillup? if not, why not?
Most folks who are experinced with driving a turbocharged engine tend to "make up" for this turbo-lag by compensating for it. If you KNOW that you will need a sudden boost of accellation from a dead-stop... pre-spin-up the turbocharger a moment before you need the power.
Regards
Some people report hesitation from a stop when the car has a DSG transmission. This is reported to be worst when you are stopped, foot on brake, and quickly step hard on the accelerator pedal. This is believed to be from the DSG clutches slipping. To minimize it, after you take your foot off the brake, wait before stomping on the go-pedal hard or gently press the pedal before pressing it harder.
I'm going to try following this advice to see if the problem reoccurs.
Did you know that VW has a 'stuck throttle' safety built in? (VW has had this for over 15 years)
Try this... with engine idling in neutral/park put LEFT foot on brake-pedal and hold it. Then, with RIGHT foot try to rev the engine... it WILL NOT rev above a predeterminted RPM as long as the brake-pedal is applied.
We did get another Jetta and so far no troubles.
The same day I got it back, the car lost power again when coming to a stop & the cops had to help me push my car to the side of the road. After telling the cops what happened, even the officer suggested that it sounded like a problem with the fuel pump. The next day I took it back to my mechanic, & he diagnosed the problem as a faulty speed sensor, so he reset the memory on it, and today was my first day back with the car.
Drove fine to my house, but a few hours later when I went to start it, it died out & battery light came on again. Restarted right after & no stalling when I drove it, but still, that dying out & battery light concerns me. Not looking forward to taking it back to the mechanic a 3rd time to pay for more work...
However, they did not fix the original problem you took it in for. If it were me, I would take it back and be VERY explicit explaining that they did not fix the original problem and expect them to fix it. (you already spent a lot of money)
Some shops will gladly charge you so they can perform all kinds of expensive tasks on your car... but the bottom line is that you are complaining about "Engine dying". You should hold them to fixing the original problem. Fixing your car should not be a "trial and error" exercize at your expense.
Keep in mind that the battery light is EXPECTED to come on any time the engine is not running. This may not be a problem at all and instead is normal when engine dies.
If the battery lignt is coming on BEFORE the engine dies, that would be a concern.
my late model 99 jetta 2.0l wont start.
If i open the door the clock and odometer start flashing. if i turn the key or turn on the head lights the dash goes blank.
leading up to this the car randomly wouldn't start with out ether and at random times the check engine light would flash and the car would try to stall.
battery is fully charged checked the cables etc...
i am baffled.
any help would be greatly appreciated.
However, when you turn the key on, (not starting engine) you should hear the hummmm of the fuelpump which is located within the fuel tank. (It will hummm for about 4 seconds and stop if you do not start the engine.) It is the fuel-pump which "pressurizes" the fuel-system prior to starting the engine.