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2007 Jeep Wrangler
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-Paul
I am finally going to buy a Wrangler but I'm planning to use my 2005 tax return to fund it. That means that I have to wait until Feb or Mar 2006! However, I don't want to miss the current design! I called Jeep directly, the girl who answered seemed to want to help and put me on hold twice for a total of about 10 minutes. But then she came back with a boilerplate response "we do not have any information on future models, we suggest contacting your local dealer."
I'm worried that if I don't suck it up and buy a 2005 model year soon, my only choice is to buy used...or wait for the "new, improved" version. I think that the current design is WONDERFUL and any "improvments" Jeep may make will only degrade it. Plus, I have a '98 Cherokee with an I-6 and want another one... I'm not a fan of V-6s.
Perhaps you should increase your deductions and bank the savings now instead of letting the government hold your money.
Just a thought.
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They're not making them anymore since Jeep's making the Unlimited now.
Overall don't expect too many changes in the Wrangler in 2006. And no Jeep will NEVER EOL the model. The TJ/Wrangler is the sacredest of all automotive branding sacred cows. Expect things like trim level option selection changes (like the factory installed airlockers, Dana 44's front & rear, GPS nav, etc across more models), and the newer V6 that's in the Liberties & GC's, and minimal sheet metal changes.
Methinks alot of the changes will be under the hood and interior part changes to unify stock with the other Jeep models. At least I hope so! My new 05 GC is light years past my 00 TJ in fit and finish. You could just about eat off that Hemi engine compartment its so clean. It would be nice if the rest of the Jeep line picked up that attention to detail in design too.
The linked article quotes a UAW official affiliated with the Toledo Jeep plant saying that DC is making ready to install CRD diesels in the new 2007 Wrangler model. Now, if they'll just make it legal for CA!! And make it a mid-06 intro!!! I don't get why DC is so tight-lipped about the new TJ model...most car makers are eager to promote their new models well in advance.
You think that your wrangler needs no change? What? The Wrangler SUCKS only because it needs change. Mostly better gas mileage! So Quit buying em until they give us more bang for our buck! I'd be happy with a ten speed and a 1 liter turbo diesel. "Do stupid people know they're stupid?"
I really hope DCx builds this thing. Americans are ready for diesel power and efficiency.
-Paul
I've heard Dana has the contract for axles still, so all signs point to yes - solid axles front and rear.
How long they remain on Jeeps has yet to be seen. I fear days are numbered.
-Paul
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-Paul
The 2007 should be a lot safer and had arrived just in time to counter the 2007 Toyota FJ cruiser which would like to take away 46000 jeep buyers. A final thought ,I think it would take years before enough after market parts are available for the TK. Me if I were to buy one, I will get the 4 door version, since I use mine as a daily driver.
Look out FJ Cruiser!
The 3.8 is the same one used in the Pacifica, but I believe they have done some tuning on it for Jeep use.
-Paul
Let's all pray they do!
Either way, they are similar enough that the addition of the Gladiator would not be a major hassle since I would imagine a lot of body, sheet metal, and interior pieces would be shared.
Maybe a Wrangler Gladiator or Scrambler to go along with the Wrangler Sahara and Wrangler Rubicon - just another variation on the theme?
-Paul
Just a couple of comments about that butt-ugly liberty. My butt-ugly liberty has 110,000 miles on the 3.7 liter motor and truely has no leaks. Granted, I can only lift it 2.5 inches to make room for the 275/75/16's but I get a great ride everyday back and forth to work. Granted I shouldn't put a locker in the front pumpkin, but ARB makes a great unit for the rear. I think you wrangler guys should swallow a little pride and invite a few libbys out on the trail for a day. I think you might be surprised that by golly its a jeep too! I think Im going to break down and get a 2007 Rubicon to park along side the 2002 Libby. Let's keep it all American!! Oh Yeah.. You can get a diesel capable of using biodiesel in a Libby right now.. no need to wait for the Wrangler. Unless you live in the UK those units will be available this fall. Keep the rubber down and lets go wheelin
I bet youre glad you bought your new jeep then.. that 2007 with 32" tires and lockers on both ends, cool 3 piece top and even electic windows surely wont be as good as your '05...
I would think that if a diesel would be coming in the new Wrangler (and maybe Gladiator if they build it), I wouldn't expect it until the 2008 model year sometime next year.
Most automakers don't offer all versions of a vehicle at one time.
Corvette didn't have a C6 Z06 until this year - one year after the C6 come out.
BMW doesn't have an E90-based coupe yet for the 3 Series (E92 for the coupe version). And their M's and convertibles follow several years after THAT.
Perhaps they want to work out some of those first year kinks that always seem to pop up before they drop another engine into it and introduce additional variables.
Don't be so quick to think it won't happen. It still may not, but at least realize that there may be some rational thought behind as to why.
-Paul
Thanks.
Again, wait until the new diesel fuels are here in the US.
-Paul
The front bumper is covered in plastic . The hood and grill looks like that renegade liberty . Available 18" dubs ? 17"s on the rubicon ? Why ? Bucket seats in back? Is it wider cause we are fatter ? Trails are narrow around here. Its longer so it will high center easier. Power windows ? Whomever they marketed it for wasn't me .
With negs out of the way I do like the idea of bigger tires . 32s are not bad . I like the tow package offered on the X that includes a rear 44 w/ a locker . 6 speed . I am glad they still offer half doors and a soft top . I havent made up my mind if I like it or not .
As for the bumper, fuhgedaboudit. That's what aftermarket is for.
Bucket seats in the back would probably HELP those sitting back there while wheeling, if you have passengers. My back seat has been out for a while now, so whether it is bench or bucket (I forget ) is irrelevant.
The 18" wheels for street driving would probably make for a fairly responsive drive versus the taller sidewalls of offroad tires. Be realistic, what percentage of Wranglers actually see trail time? I'm thinking it is not even close to 50% - probably closer to 15% and even that may be high. Those 18's will appeal to those who want to have a rugged vehicle but keep it on the street. I look at it like this:
That is a potential used vehicle for me that I know will not have been offroad and be a GREAT selection for me when the used ones come on the market. I'll keep the 18's for street use and get some good offroad tires/wheels.
Length is rather irrelevant. I've wheeled with Cherokees, GRAND Cherokees and Libertys. Wheel length was irrelevant. If you notice the JK's t-cas is tucked higher than the shovel we have now - unless you go with a tummy tuck. I've seen several Unlimiteds wheel just fine. I'll take an experienced driver in an Unlimited over a newb (like me) in a SWB Wrangler any day.
-Paul
I think you are probably right about lenght . I know there are many benifits to a longer WB and the only drawback would be high centering but as you state the belly is tucked and the tires slightly taller and with a locker in back sounds like the pros are outweighing the cons on that one .
I may just be afraid of change to my all time favorite . Im will be keeping a open mind and looking forward to seeing and driving one this fall .
Thanks
Dose anyone have an opinion about the new convertible top? I realize that if the cabin is longer then the top will be longer and with a bigger hard top it will be more difficult to find a place to store it when it's off. So considering that it makes sense to be able to brake it down into three pieces. I still haven't made up my mind if I like the new top. It seems to me that it might leak. Not right off the show room floor, but eventually. Hopefully if it appears to be a pain there will be aftermarket solid hard tops.
I don't think I like the plastic fenders. I'm more fond of the TJ fenders. However, if you beat up one of these on the trail then to replace it requires little or no prep work such as painting. Just bolt it on and your good to go. If you look closely at all of the new plastic on it you'll notice that it's all around the lower edges. This is where most of the off-road damage will occur, right? So therefor it seems like Jeep wants you to be able to just bolt on replacement part without having to paint them or prep them.
But those are just my opinions. All car comments/replies are welcome.
Thanks,
Aaron
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The thing I like the least is the plastic front grill. It's almost the same plastic front grill found on my wife's 2005 Liberty Renegade Rocky Mountain Edition. I guess the old-fashioned, heavy-metal of a Wrangler front grill seems more appropriate behind a serious winch and/or after-market bumper.
Just my 2-cents worth...