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2007 Jeep Wrangler
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BTW I know the safety issues about riding w/o doors on the road and don't want to discuss them just the legality of doing it. :shades:
PA just has some really stupid laws like that.
I'm topless and doorless most of the summer in my TJ in AL and know of a LOT of jeepers in FL who do the same thing.
-Paul
In fact, I tried to order the 4 door Rubicon today (with the half doors), but amazingly, the dealer said that they are not taking orders for the 4 door version with the half doors yet (only the 2 door). I can't understand how they can promote this ultimate off road vehicle (90% of the pictures in the brochure, and even at the North American International Auto Show in Detroit, show the 4 door version with half doors), yet they won't even take an order for one. Nor will they take an order for the new My Gig Navigation system. How frustrating. On the bright side, I guess I have a little longer to ponder my decision. I suppose one option is buying both the full and half doors from the dealer when I order the vehicle. Does anyone have any idea how much a manufacture half door goes for (based on what they cost for 06 models or earlier of course)?
BTW I took my sunroof off yesterday afternoon and while it was chilly (60) the sun was out and I could not stand it. If I was not convinced before now that going ahead and buying my jeep now then adding aftermarket options as I can I am now.
OUCH ! That last sentence gave me a headache !
Not quite:
(SHG) Electronic front sway bar w/o Rubicon model has a Job #1 of 2/15/07
(DSH) Locker rear axle has a Job #1 of 2/15/07
(GWK) Sunrider soft top with 2-Door has a Job #1 of 3/19/07
The estimated lead time is 12 - 14 weeks at the moment, though this could change at any time of course.
http://www.carspace.com/giantsin06/?50@@.59f1a27b :sick:
My question - what are the obvious modification that you would do in order to be 'trail ready.' Here is my list from my "jeep friend" - but I welcome comments and suggestions:
(1) front bumper (Warn)
(2) rear bumper (Warn, but at least 2 months until its ready)
(3) Air intake system (Airaid or AEM - could someone tell me why this is not a factory spec if it is such an "obvious" upgrade to hp and torque?)
(4) winch (Warn 8k lbs - is this enough?)
(5) lights- side mirror mounted (I guess you can never have enough light)
I suspect somewhere in the future there may be a lift kit, but think I need to learn more about the jeep first and how I'm using it before making this commitment. Thoughts?
1) The interior is far more comfortable and spacious than that of my 2004 X, with one exception. That is the height from the seat to the roll bar. Even with the seat height adjuster all the way down, I hit my head on the bar every time I tried entering the vehicle. This never happens in my '04.
2) The front fenders are a LOT of plastic compared to only the previous lips. The temperature was below zero yesterday and I did a bit of pushing and tugging on the fenders to get a feel for their durability. Although nothing seemed ready to break, there was not much flex in them. Also not sure what the vehicle would look like when they begin to fade. I touch mine up a couple of times a year, but these would need a gallon of anti-fade and a 4" brush.
3) There does not seem to be availability of deep tinted rear and rear side windows on soft top only models this year.
Overall, this may be a better vehicle and value than the previous version, but the lowered toll bar clearance may be fatal flaw for me. Darn.
3, it's not standard, esp for an offroad vehicle because (1) that means they don't make $$ replacing or selling replacements and (2) they tend to let more dirt and junk into the air intake, which is bad for an engine. Offroad vehicles will (generally) see more offroad use.
4, 8k is okay, but 9k would be better. You never want to put a full strain on your winch if you can avoid it, and that 9k is just some extra breathing room.
5, Personal preference here. I have driving lights instead of fogs on the bumper, but I'm changing that to fogs on the bumper, driving lights on the hoop over the winch, and lights on the windshield frame (which cannot be used in regular traffic). Hella, PIAA, IPF, Warn all make great lights for the Jeep.
Enjoy your new JK. Keep in mind you'll pay more for JK parts than us TJ guys pay for parts since the TJ has been out since 96 as a 97 model year.
-Paul
At below zero temps, I doubt anything is gonna flex much. Try your TJ flares and see how THEY handle the same temps.
-Paul
Your point is well taken. But I guess my frame of reference is that IF the plastic fender lips broke off my 2004 (regardless of temperature) I would still have fenders. Have you had a chance to personally look at the new design. There is a lot more plastic hanging there than I have ever seen on a vehicle and more than the printed literature portrays.
At the risk of sounding boring, I'd learn more about your new Jeep in its standard form before committing to any modifications such as those you listed.
For one thing, it'll give you a baseline for comparison as you make changes later. For another, there's a lot more satisfaction to be had by developing the skills to learn the limits of your vehicle in its standard specification before adding to its capabilities. Until you learn the basic techniques you won't benefit too much from the add-ons. Just like a telescopic sight won't help much until you've learned the basics of breathing properly, squeezing the trigger, and using standard iron sights.
If you really want to treat your new ride to a few presents, why not look at some of the skid plates and undercarriage protection that's out there.
I'm sure the anticipation is making you antsy (in a good way), so now would be a good time to start sending off for the many, many catalogs of Jeep goodies available. Do your research and hold off from any big decisions for a while.
For what it's worth, I'd echo erickpl's opinions on your list, especially in regard to an alternate air filter.
-Paul
for pictures and comments on 65 years of Willys and Jeep .
Thanks
Then when you click on one of your photos, a box will flop up with the html code you need to paste here to either link to your photo or put a photo in a post.
Here's the help faq about uploading photos to your CarSpace page.
I am interested in the 4-DR Sahara Unlimited, but cannot decide between the 6-speed manual and the 4-speed auto. I test drove both and think the auto makes more sense for me, but I want reliability and I have no idea how the auto compares to the manual in cost of ownership/reliability. I usually drive my vehicles up to 200k. Just lost my JGC to a deer and the Wrangler Unlimited 4-DR seemed a good replacement choice.
Anyhow , I'm a fat guy and I notice no imbalance . :confuse: Can't imagine what information your salesman has that would prompt him to tell you that . Remember: They want to sell you cars , get you out the door , and never see you until you want to buy again. Even if there are great humanitarian-salesman out there , it's best to be skeptical and act like they're all trying to screw you (us).
Sunrider Top - Easy to use and flip back? Easy to take off and store the whole soft top? How's the noise on the highway with the soft top?
Windows - With a soft top, is it easy to scrape off ice? How's the visibility in wintry conditions? Defrost work on plastic?
Manual - I hear there's no space for your left foot to rest when it's off the clutch. How uncomfortable is it?
Cloth - Is the premium cloth what it's cracked up to be? I have a dog... is dog hair easy to come off? Does it hold smell?
Kayak - Anyone using a kayak rack? Wondering how it's working for you.
THANK YOU!
2. Soft windows cannot be scraped unless you love scratches or tears. You can frequently get inside and kinda tap-tap-tap on the windows from the inside to get stuff off them, including ice. But it works better once they've warmed up a bit.
3. Don't know.
4. If it is like the TJ's cloth, should be no problems to clean. Most cloth will hold smell over time. Just a question as to how you maintain it (and the dog)
5. Don't know.
-Paul
If I get the tow package from the factory I get a 4.10 axle ratio, otherwise it's an option. The standard is 3.21.
Anyone have thoughts on this? I'm seriously considering the 4 door Wrangler (Sahara). Thanks.
Generally, to get better mileage you want the engine to run slower (RPMs) which requires higher gear ratios. Acceleration requires horsepower and you achieve that with greater RPMs.
tidester, host
RPMs are in good company with VIN numbers and ATM machines. I usually pick on fellow posters for SHOUTING, but hosts in automotive forums really SHOULD KNOW BETTER!!! (irrational rant over).
There, I feel better now. :shades:
1. Which axle ratio will give me the better gas mileage?
2. Which axle ratio will give me the better acceleration?
BTW - closely related to this - does anyone know which axle ratio the Jeep Wrangler was equipped with that was featured in the article that claimed 0-60 in 9.7 seconds? (Article referenced in previous posting.)
i'm sorry mac i will try my best not to use uppercase letters since you have overpunctuated your message i hereby resolve to balance the situation no longer will i use punctuation marks they too can be an annoyance thanks for your input there i feel better too
tidester host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
Now, if we can just deal with the occasional superfluous plural? :P
Does anyone know when the half doors and top will be available? The salesman couldn't say. I'd swap doors and tops every spring and fall.
Has anyone ordered a Wrangler from the factory? What's the wait time?