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  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    My best advice is to get tires at a place that allows no charge replacement tires for the first 30 days after you buy a new set. That way you've got 2 or 3 shots to get a tire you like. Buying at Discount tire helped me out in this regard.

    Wouldn't that mean the new tires you buy could have 30 days worth of miles on them? I find it hard to believe they send all those "test drive" tires back to the factory.

    In my case the 30 days would not have been enough. The Bridgestones I have were great when brand new, but now they howl on some roads. I don't think Discount tire would take them back now, with 35k miles on them. I hate to buy new tires when the Bridgestones still have plenty of grip, and perform great. I certainly wouldn't buy them again, knowing how loud they get at only half their lifespan.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    edited October 2010
    Good to hear from you Elroy. Hope you are well. I don't know what they do with the returned tires. The requirements are, you keep up with the rotations(6k), which are free at DT. When the tread gets down to the warranty(worn out) depth, they credit you with the purchase price you paid x the remaining time the tire was warrantied to last, that it did not last. Ex. you paid $400 for the tires and they have an 80k warranty. They are worn out at 60k.....so 20/80 x $400 = $100 credit on the replacement set of tires.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,489
    they resell them as specials, disclosing that they are take offs. Can get a pretty good deal on those too.

    I used this program once. No muss, no fuss. Put something cheaper on my maxima (generals I think, when they had just come out with a new line that seemed promising). Felt squirrelly, and I just did not like them, so i took them back and got Dunlops that I had planned to get in the first place.

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  • capriracercapriracer Member Posts: 907
    "......I find it hard to believe they send all those "test drive" tires back to the factory......"

    Well, they do!

    First, it's not very many.

    Second, most dealers are smart enough to allow the customer only one changeover. Only PITA customers would need more than one try.

    Third, tire manufacturers record who sends these tires back - and if a dealer was sending back too many, he'd start being charged for them. So the dealer has an incentive to get it right the first time.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    edited October 2010
    PITA is a relative term. From the Customer's perspective,it's a PITA to be told,by the tire salesman, tire A rides better than tire B............. when,if fact,...........Tire B rides better than tire A.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    So which is it? They sell them as "specials" or send them back to the manufacturer? My Bridgestones are not worn much at all, at 35k miles, but they are getting louder and louder as the tread wears. I really doubt they would take them back at this point. They might give me a credit, say $100, for them if I bought a new set from them. I'm still looking for that perfect tire, and haven't had much luck so far, I've used Goodyear, Bridgestone, Michelin, and Dunlop before, and they all had their drawbacks.
  • capriracercapriracer Member Posts: 907
    "So which is it? They sell them as "specials" or send them back to the manufacturer?........"

    Certainly a tire dealer (who is an independent businessman) can do what he likes, but the tire manufacturer will accept them back if the tires meet the terms.

    ".....My Bridgestones are not worn much at all, at 35k miles, but they are getting louder and louder as the tread wears. I really doubt they would take them back at this point..........."

    The terms include a time limit - usually 30 days. Needless to say a tire with 35K would not qualify.

    But if I were to diagnose your noise level problem, I'd say you have an alignment issue.
  • elroy5elroy5 Member Posts: 3,735
    I don't have an alignment problem. The tires are wearing great, and are quiet on some roads. Slightly coarse pavement, however, will make them sound like mud grips. The Turanzas have much more grip, especially on wet pavement, and are more durable (thicker and heavier) than the original Michelin MXV4 Energy tires IMO. I guess the road noise is the price I pay for all that traction.
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,489
    1) life depends on how and where you drive, and if you maintain the car. You might get 60K out of them, or 30K. Proper inflation, regular rotation, and making sure it is kept in alignment (a major early killer of tires is being out of alignment) gives you the best shot at a long life. But, anything over 40K is probably "normal"

    2) the legal way is when tread depth falls below a certainly level (probably 3/32). Which is also about when the tread is down to the wear bars. You can do the lincoln's head penny test, or just feel for the wear bars in the tread. Or stop at any tire place for a free check. If you get oil changes at the dealer, they usually tell you what the measurement is.

    a more practical way to know when it is time to replace is when they stop working well, usuallly in the wet (they get slippery or "squirrly" ) and for sure the snow. I prefer to change them a little early for safety/peace of mind, instead of milking every mile out of a set of baldies.

    3) everyone has opinions on brands. And what works for them. The Michelins I believe tend to be good on noise, but you often trade off comfort for handling. I would say look at reviews/tests on different options at tirerack.com. THere is a ton of info over there, but be prepared for some contradictions in the owner comments!

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  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
    I know this has been beat to death in many forums, but has anyone had personal experience dropping to a T from a H? I tried searching the forums, but seemed to find opinions and not anyone who actually has done this with a 08 or newer Accord. I have a 08 sedan w/5speed manual that I want to replace the stock 215/60 16H Dunflop 7000's at 39k. I really would like to get Hankook H727's, but they only have T's. I like the Dunlops handling but they have been noisy from the start, and get worse the more they wear. What I'm looking for is a quieter tire, a little better ride, decent life (60k), and won't break the bank. I know, picky aren't I? I just wanted to know of anyone with firsthand experience on the safety aspect and how their car handled with a drop in speed rating. I'm looking at spending not much over $500, so that cuts out a number of popular tires. Kelly Navigator Touring Golds or BF Goodrich Advantage T/A's are in my price range and both come in a H. I've got another week or so before I'll be able to have the moolah to spring for a set. Any feedback is appreciated. Thanks!
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    There is a silly notion that you can't ever go down a speed rating. If the car comes with an overrated tire there is no reason you can't go down. My Accord came with V rated tires good for 150 mph. I will certainly replace them with H rated for 130 which is much closer to the top speed of the car - and even that is overkill as I will never drive that fast.

    Going to a T is a little dicier because you are down to 118 mph and the car could potentially go faster than that. If you are comfortable it is your car - go for it. 118 mph is go directly to jail in every state even Montana now.

    Also, as far as speed rating go, I run Q rated winter tires which are only good to 98 mph a speed almost every new car on the road can best, yet most winter tires are Q rated.

    You should look at consumer reports, they test tires and Michelin makes the top rated touring tire and it is H rated. Primacy MXV4 Sams club sells them and there is a $70 rebate if you buy 4. I will get these in the spring when I take off the snows.

    I also have a stick - keep shifting and don't turn to the dark side.
  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
    Dudley - thanks for the reply. I just wasn't sure because this is the first car I've owned that has H rated tires as OEM. Actually this is my first Accord. As far as driving to the top end of T's - 118mph - 'taint gonna happen as long as I'm behind the wheel! I got over that a long time ago. I still like to throw it around the clover leaf and wind the v-tec up to get to the speed limit quickly :) It was a blast driving up Big Thompson Canyon out in Colorado this last summer with the manual tranny. How does your car ride and handle with Q rated tires? Michelin is a little out of my price range. I am going to buy from a local shop, a person I trust with anything I drive. He can order most anything from several wholesalers in the area. I've heard too many horror stories from the chain stores. Heck, I even had my tires rotated at the Honda dealer once and the guy over torqued the lug nuts! I found it out when I had a flat tire, unfortunately.
  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
    Dudley, I just found this Consumer Reports article. link title They make it sound like I had better stick with H's. :confuse:
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    The Q's I have are not the greatest on dry roads, the Accord looses some of its edge, but that is because they are snow tires, not because of the Q rating.

    Any official publication is going to recommend the most conservative choice as they don't want to get sued on the off chance some yahoo goes too fast. Here is where I am coming from. If the base model has T rated tires and the mid model has H rated tires and the top model has V rated tires are you really obligated to put back V rated tires if they all have the same top speed? Pros don't want amateurs to make decisions so they will say put the same rating on. But intuitively if it is the same car with the same engine and transmission then it can use the same tires as the base model.

    Not sure what the base Accord had for ratings, but I know in my case the SE had V and the LX has H so I am fine with H I have a 2007 SE 4 cyl stick. You could take a peek and see what the most basic Accord has for speed ratings at the dealer and you should be fine with that.

    If you are not confident then just go with an H - tires are relatively cheap and tires like the Michelin will save you money with low rolling resistance.
  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
    I have the base model LX, so H it is. It will be a couple of weeks before I have enough moolah to get them put on. I managed to injure both my thumbs, not at the same time mind you, so am on workman's comp awaiting a specialists appointment. It does pay better than temp. disability, but still not 100%, hence the $500 spending limit. Hopefully my right thumb won't be too sore after surgery or it might be painful to shift. Might have to settle for driving my old Camry with the awfulmatic. Ack!! :P
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    See if your local guy can get continental tires. They have a new low rolling resistance model that CR also liked a lot and it is cheaper than the Michelin. I think About $85 or $90 per tire.
  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
    Thanks Dudley, I'll look into it.
  • robgraverobgrave Member Posts: 65
    Assuming the tire of choice is the Michelin Primacy MXV4 -- an expensive choice, no doubt -- the question is V or H rated. Here in Detroit (Discount Tire) the difference is about $100 for the set. Now, 100 bucks is nothing to sneeze at, but...

    I'm not entirely convinced it is simply a matter of how fast you intend to drive. If it were, I'd go with the H, since 80 mph is just about tops for me, generally speaking. But, having read through the 450 or so reviews at Tire Rack, the V rated tire does appear to provide the more stable ride, even at moderate highway speeds, and especially in windy conditions. Something to consider when I'm ready to buy.

    Then again, I may just decide that I don't need Michelins after all. H or V, it is a lot of money, and I could get by with something cheaper. Still undecided...
  • mrbill1957mrbill1957 Member Posts: 823
    Although the higher speed rated tire may handle better, you do loose a little when it comes to ride comfort. The stiffer sidewall does effect ride quality.

    I still have the OEM Michelin tires on my 04 Accord, and when I replace them I will be looking for a softer tire to get a smoother ride. I really like the car except when driving rougher roads.

    Mrbill
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    In that case you want to consider the Goodyear Assurance Comfort Tread Tire. The most comfortable,quiet,smooth,and bump absorbing tire I've had on my 02 Accord V6. Slight loss of mpg and handling. GACT Touring for more mpg and better handling. Get 'em at Discount Tire. Free rotations,balance,air. Keep up with the 6,000 mile rotations and get a prorated credit on your next set of tires. Warranty 80,000/6years. Hope this helps.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    I concluded the load index is more important than the speed rating.
  • robgraverobgrave Member Posts: 65
    Yes, you are right, it would be nice to get less road feedback with the Accord. And it may be that the H rated tire gives better gas mileage as well (some market watchers see $5/gallon just around the corner).

    And, since your OEM Michelins are six years old, chances are you'll be replacing before I do (mine are only 4 yrs/17,000). I'd be very interested if you do decide to go with the Primacy H option. If you get the better ride you're looking for, you may very well make my mind up for me. To get the overall better tire and spend less money doing it makes good sense, to be sure.
  • robgraverobgrave Member Posts: 65
    Well, since you have previously defined yourself as "an unexciting person," we are probably on the same page when it comes to tires(!)

    What's the speed rating on the Goodyear ComforTreds you chose? At the Tire Rack site, I see that the V-rated Goodyear is about the same price as the H-rated Michelin Primacy.
  • mrbill1957mrbill1957 Member Posts: 823
    edited January 2011
    As others already mentioned, Goodyear makes a "Comfort Tread" branded tire.

    I had recommended that tire to a family member for his SUV which rode very rough. He installed the Comfort Tread tires and was thrilled with the difference in ride. The difference was substantial and they decided to keep the vehicle longer now that it rides much better.

    The Comfort Tread tire is at the top of my list so far as a replacement tire for my Accord. I only have 40K miles on the car (I have an older truck I mainly drive) and the OEM tires look like new yet, so it may be a while before they are replaced. I'm willing to sacrafice a little handling and maybe a mpg or two, and with the max speed limit in WI at 65, I don't see the need for high speed ratings.

    Mrbill
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    The previous set of CTs were 92t,i think. The current Tourings are 94h. The Cts are quieter and more comfortable than the Tourings but don't handle as precisely, or get as good mpg. The Oem Michelins always last about 45k for me. The Cts last about 30k for me. Just keep up with the required 6k rotations with DT and you will get a prorated credit when they wear out early. My last credit was $288.
  • robgraverobgrave Member Posts: 65
    I don't find that there is any model of the CT's but the Assurance CT Touring that is currently available. At Discount Tire the tire is rated at 91V, and sells for $120. Here in Detroit, the "out the door" price for the set is $584, which sits well with me. V rated Primacy's would cost me 200 bucks more.

    This is all planning ahead for me, probably by a year or two, so it's a tire on my "watch list," for the time being.

    One minor complaint I've noticed is that the tire does not have a rim guard, which means (I guess) that the rim is more exposed than it would be with most other tires. I'm not sure what to make of that. Maybe it's just nit-picking.
  • blufz1blufz1 Member Posts: 2,045
    Just checked the dt site clicking "tires by brand". 92t for CTs and 94h for the Tourings.
  • robgraverobgrave Member Posts: 65
    "Just checked the dt site clicking "tires by brand". 92t for CTs and 94h for the Tourings."

    Those specs are for 15" (LX). For my car (EX, 16"), the options differ. Only the Touring model is listed.
  • packer3packer3 Member Posts: 277
    edited January 2011
    Stay with the Dunlops, I know people who have the Michleins and they are noiser. I use to work at a tire shop up until around 10 years ago part time I never liked Dunlops hard rubber poor grip. Until I leased an 08 Accord with the Dunlops boy what a difference unreal grip in the rain and snow, turned the car in with 25,000 miles and the thread was still deep I would say there was another 20 to 25 K miles left on them.
  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
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  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
    Packer3, the Dunlop 7000's on my car have given respectable service for only being rated at only 320. They have worn evenly, and the dry traction and cornering is good. When it comes to snow they are like banana peels. From brand new they were noisy on quite a few roads in my neck of the woods. Yesterday I had a tire dealer order me some Goodyear Comfortred Tourings. Out the door was $612.04 - $80 rebate= $532.04. They have a 30 day like em or return em guarantee. They also throw in lifetime rotation for free which is always a good deal. I'm hoping for better snow traction, less noise and a bit better ride perhaps. I run Dunlop SP60's on my old 97 Camry, and I really like their snow grip and ability to stick to cloverleafs. Noisy as heck unless I'm on smoothest roads. I'll post after I get them installed. They have them on backorder, but were going to try to get them from another source.
  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
    I forgot to mention that I had to give up hope for the Michelins due to the price. My pockets weren't deep enough. Tire rack had them for a pretty good price with that rebate that just expired. I would rather get my tires closer to home though.
  • jonahdogjonahdog Member Posts: 28
    I've used Tire Rack several times and completely satisfied with the experience. That said, I have had good and bad experiences with almost every tire brand out there. Currently have 3 accords, 2 have Kumho KH16. One set (16inch) is acceptable. The other (15inch) has been outstanding. My other accord has Michelin Primacy's (2nd set) and have had great experience with them, although not sure if I want to spend the $$ the next time.
  • icyou812icyou812 Member Posts: 77
    I ordered a set of General Altimax RT's once from Tread Depot. 3 tires were made in Mexico, only a couple of months old, but the 4th was about a year and a half old and made in Brazil. Kind of soured me from buying online. I did consider the Kumho KH16's before deciding on the Comfortreds. I did get them put on yesterday finally. They are quieter and ride better than the Dunlops. Kinda like comparing apples to oranges I guess. High performance all-season vs grand touring. On the negative side they aren't as responsive and the snow traction isn't a whole lot better. I have only put on about 50 miles on them so far, so it's a little too early to say if I really like them or not.
  • rose007rose007 Member Posts: 2
    edited January 2011
    I have Honda Accord 2003 LX, and purchased my car in San Francisco Bay Area in California.
    I want to go to Reno/Tahoe this winter, but I have never drove my car in snow, and I was wondering if my tires are all seasoned tires, or will be required to purchase the tire chains when I drive in snow. If so, I would like to know what "size and type of tire chains" I should buy, and I prefer something easy to put on. but it would be depending on the price. (I also would like to know the Tire chain price). Where can I find the source(s) to look up the information?
    I searched Honda dealer web site, Wikipedia, and this Edmunds web site/forum, but I couldn't find the information.

    Thanks for your advice in advance.
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    JCwhitney.com should have chains that fit your car...I think you actually want "traction cables" not true chains. I believe there is some information about them in your owner's manual. They are sized by your tire size. Walmart/Kmart/Sears typically has them also. Winter tires will perform better than all season tires in snow and ice but it may not be necessary for 1 trip. Newer (lots of tread depth) all season tires might be fine.
    In "chain up" areas, typically people will install your chains/cables for you for a fee. I did it myself but I practiced installing them in a warm location so I'd be able to do it quickly in the cold.
  • tallman1tallman1 Member Posts: 1,874
    As was already suggested, check your owner's manual for chain recommendations. You can also go to an auto parts store for help with the correct size. Since you are in the Bay Area, you can visit a Les Schwab store (as one option) for help. They have a return policy that lets you take unused chains back for a full refund in the spring.

    You may or may not need them on your trip. If you encounter snow, slowing down and taking it easy may be all you need. Your car will do okay with all-season tires if the snow isn't too bad, especially if it is mostly flat. Chains might be necessary for mountain passes or extreme conditions.

    As for price, you'll probably pay somewhere around $70 for chains. Again, call a reputable auto parts store and give them your tire size to get a more exact price.

    This is a link to Les Schwab's chain page for more info but you may want to check other places too. There is a video here that shows you how to put them on and it gives some fairly good advice about chains in general. Less Schwab Chains
  • rose007rose007 Member Posts: 2
    Thanks for your great advice. I just checked and found my tires/wheels specifications from owner's manual. I will check out the both suggested local stores soon.

    Thanks!!
  • aamixyaamixy Member Posts: 69
    Hi all, the tires on my 2007 Honda Accord SE v6 almost reach their lifetime. I am looking for some inexpensive tires to replace. On Discount Tire's website, I found a band called Riken. Has anyone tried this brand? The reviews on the website have high and lows and I am a little concerned about the "grip" ability, as the stock tires slips badly. Thanks for your input!!
  • fixitdaddy1fixitdaddy1 Member Posts: 14
    Hey! Just shouting out to you--can't go wrong with the Primacy MXV4's; killer gas mileage and wear!!! We have 60,000 miles 7 only 3/32nd's wear--what's not to like? And, no "hemp" in our diet, either?!!!
  • robgraverobgrave Member Posts: 65
    Speed rating? (V or H)

    Nice to hear positive feedback about Primacy MXV4's, but I'm already convinced they are the tires as advertised; if price weren't an issue, I wouldn't even think twice about it (except for the speed rating question, which still bugs me.)
  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    So in an effort to ditch the "grandpa" tire size on my Accord and make the thing have some semblance of cornering and turn-in, I want to replace my 205/60R16 tires and 16" wheels with a 17 inch wheel. The Acura TL 17x8 wheel is pretty easy to find used, but I think that requires a 225 or 235 width tire and the recommendation is a 215.
    I think the widest wheel I can have with a 215 is like a 7" or 7.5" and the narrowest tire I can get on an 8" rim is a 225. Can I run a 225/50R17 and clear my fender lip and suspension? I have seen people running the Acura TL 17x8 rim on the Accord (and it looks good, IMHO) but other people are more willing to accept rubbing/binding than I am.
    Any thoughts or suggestions?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,489
    take the easy way out, and get the wheels from a V6 accord, which are 17" and certainly narrow enough to fit!

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  • lilengineerboylilengineerboy Member Posts: 4,116
    take the easy way out, and get the wheels from a V6 accord, which are 17" and certainly narrow enough to fit!

    I would totally do that if I could find inexpensive V6 coupe or HFP wheels but I don't care for the V6 sedan wheels. I would also like something that isn't too much heavier than what I have now. The TSX wheel is also a 17x7 I believe and takes a 215/50R17 which should fit fine.

    The car has just shy of 60k and the Bridgestones that came on it prolly have until the end of summer so I have sometime to find something good.
  • lafoca2003lafoca2003 Member Posts: 1
    I have Riken on my 07 se v6.... Worst tire I've ever owned. They ares down to 2/32 with only 26k miles. They were noisy and a disaster on any snow/ice road..even got caught in slush. I know this is well after you posted, but for anyone else out there...Riken + Accord 17" = BAD NEWS!
  • wds1wds1 Member Posts: 23
    I have a 2006 Honda Accord EX-V6.  I purchased the car in Nov. 2005 and replaced the tires in July 2008.  The car had V rated tires, but I never enjoyed the ride as it was not smooth to me.  I replaced them with Michelin Primacy MXV4 H tires at 38K miles.  Now, at 85K miles, the tires on the rear were worn to the thread, while the front was getting fairly close.  Also, the salesman pointed out I had dry rot on all four tires.  I decided to replace them all.  I questioned them about the dry rot, but they did not have much to say.  Should they have?

    I replaced the tires with the same brand and model with the Michelin Primacy MXV4 H.  As soon as I drove the car, it was BUMPY beyond belief.  It was as if I was in a wagon traveling in the West, before it was developed.  Well, maybe not that bad, but did not drive like the old set, at all.  I returned the car to the tire dealer today.  The air in the tires were set at 37 PSI. according to the tire dealer and 40 PSI, according to my car repairman (checked with him prior to going back to the tire shop).  The Honda manufacturer recommends 32 PSI front and 29 PSI back.   The tires have a recommended 40 PSI, I was told.  The tire salesman said he would drive the car before and after letting air out to see if that would help.  However, when he called he told me he did not have time.  I told him to drive it because I did not want to take the car back and forth after just paying over $1K for 4 tires.  He called back to say he thought it was okay, but if I was not pleased, they would work with me about other tires.  I went to pick up the car.  Before leaving, the owner said he drove the car and did feel every bump in the road.  He thought the air reduction might help though.  Both of the them said I was just probably not used to new tires though.  Not true, as I remember what a great feel they had in 08 when I first drove the old set.  The feel of these tires are not even similar.

    I will now be going in a THIRD time for $1K tires, which seems totally unacceptable.  I feel all the bumps in the road still. as the air reduction DID NOT help very much, at all.  Between the owner and the salesman, they have told me this about four times I could get new tires.  Am I missing something here?  Do you think they think they are defective?

    Are there known problems with Michelin?  I had always liked the old set of Michelin.  Could the bumpy ride be due to defective tires?  Note the steering wheel does not shake and the car does not veer to either side.  There did seem to be a lot of play in the steering wheel when I picked up the car though.  I am not sure why.  
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    I have the same tires and love them. Just got them this summer and have 12k miles on them. I can hardly see any sign of wear. I expect them to last about 100k miles. They handle well ride well and seem to be efficient. I keep them at 40 psi and the ride is fine.

    How on earth were they a thousand dollars. They were half that at Sams club with lifetime balance etc. There was a $70 rebate at the time (for all 4 not each).

    I will say that when mine were brand new they seemed a little skittish because of the oils in the top layer and the nubs take a long time to wear off. Also tread squirm is its worst at full depth tread.

    Have different michelins on the minivan and noticed that made a strange sound going over bumps (sounded like a big red gym ball bouncing - sproing). That went away after a few thousand miles.

    Tires change a lot over their lifetime. They tend to get better in every way except for wet/snow traction. If it never rained we would all drive with bald tires as they provide maximum dry grip and have no tread squirm.

    I recommend that you drive 1,000 miles or so to get the tires broken in then have them rebalanced. At that point they should start feeling better. You might even rotate them then too to help the nubs wear off sooner. Also rotating well help you figure if there is a bad tire, since moving a bad tire from the front to the back will change the way your car feels.
  • wds1wds1 Member Posts: 23
    The other quote in town was $1250! As I had the same tires earlier, I know what they SHOULD feel like new. I really believe there is a problem within the tires. I can even feel vibration under my seat just driving down the road. For the owner to admit he felt every bump in the road, I can't help but think there may be a problem.

    For me, these tires did not even began to last 100K though. They were full of dry rot in all four tires. My old tires lasted 47,000 miles and were down to the thread. I googled Michelin and dry rot and found consumer complaints about Michelin dry rot. I called Michelin and they said all tires have dry rot. They also said I can not go a rating down from V rated to H rating. He said that was the reason they did not ride well. He could not explain why the other tires rode well from the start. Hmmm.... He argued repeatedly about it as if I never told him the previous Michelins rode great. Also, I told him I was told you could go down ONE rating from V to H, but he said the tire salesmen were all wrong on telling me that previously.

    I'm not sure what I am going to do at this point. I seriously doubt I am keeping this particular set of tires though.
  • robgraverobgrave Member Posts: 65
    Here in the Detroit area, the savings for H vs. V with the Primacy is about $100 (for a set of 4) -- significant, but not in itself a deal maker, for me.

    First of all, trying to improve the ride of the Accord with softer tires doesn't seem to work well, from the reviews that I've seen. An Accord is what it is -- most of us were prepared for the rougher ride when we bought it. I've got no complaints.

    What concerns me most, though, is the potential for damage to wheels and suspension with the more pliable sidewall of the H rated tire. Potholes are inevitable, as much as I try to avoid them, and tires are the first line of defense. So far, my V- rated tires have held up very well (Michelins are, no matter what the critics say, a quality tire, and probably worth the premium pricing). I'm inclined to replace the original set with a V-rated Primacy set, until someone convinces me that I'm wasting my money. For protection's sake, if nothing else.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Member Posts: 3,469
    Fortunately tires don't dry rot in South Dakota - not enough pollution.

    When were the tires made - you can check on the sidewall for the date code it is the year and the week 1108 is the 8th week of 2011. Old tires might have problems. I doubt it is all 4 tires that are bad, but one may be - rotate them and it will be apparent which one.

    I also went from V to H. No problems. I don't think that this would cause a problem when other models of the same car with the same engine etc come standard with H.

    Tire give is more a function of tire pressure than sidewall stiffness.
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