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Good luck!
JW_R
Don't let them give you the runaround. They should pay the whole thing.
JW_R
Be prepared if you open a case with honda they will say, "We handle this on a case by case basis. You can't believe everything you read on the internet." You can read more horror stories here:
http://www.odysseytransmission.com/ProblemCases/Page1
Some of these people mention the 3yr/36 warranty on the new tranny.
REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN HONDA! I paid top dollar for a reliable car and a company that had "great " customer service. I feel jipped!
This is ridiculous. Didn't expect this with my Honda
Has anyone out there had any luck having Honda Corp pick up the cost of this especially as it doesn't fall under the 1999 to 2001 warranty? Thanks
I had a 2002 and they paid 25%. They said I was only getting 25% because I was the 2nd owner and I did not have my service records.
You should get more than 25% if you have all your service receipts showing you had the transmission fluid changed, and since you are a 1 owner. Call Honda and open a case.
Good luck.
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Reading these blogs and threads have been so helpful. Not sure if I am in the market to buying Honda again, though....We have always bought Honda and our other car is also a Honda
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We did get hit having to replace engine mounts at the same time. And it is now making a loud bumping sound. Sounds like the engine is falling out, Might have to take it back to get checked. But hate the thought of going back there after this whole ordeal.
Finally got my van back!
I had problems with my 2000 Odyssey, thought is was the trans. The van did not have any power to the wheels and it finally threw a mil code, p0420, I think. I replaced the cat with an aftermarket converter and it threw the code again about 1 year later, I had it replaced with another aftermarket cat but this one is considered a heavy duty O.E.M converter, and it happened again a few months later. I have a friend in the auto repair business and he did some digging, it turns out that the Oxygen sensor that screws into cat needs an adapter (like a spacer) to get the tip of the O2 sensor out of the direct flow of the exhaust.
I know that this is a transmisson thread but I hope it may help someone that thinks the have a transmission problem but do not have a p0420 code yet.
I think the Transmission is truly going out now though.
I know how you feel. :sick:
I am looking at a 2000 Odyssey that is in really great shape. However, from maintenance records it has:
1. Honda replaced transmission at 87K
2. Timing belt replaced
3. O2 sensor replaced with aftermarket and Check Engine light is on.
The van now has 131K on it. So the new transmission has 44K miles of use. How long will the replaced transmission last? Do they go out again? Seems like a design flaw is still there even after replacing it. Do I need to be concerned about the O2 sensor as potentially an issue with the catalytic converter? I don't want to have to shell out 3-4K in 2 years.
In your case, I obviously cannot say if/when it will need another tranny, but I personally wouldn't get involved.
The O2 sensor shouldn't be that big of a deal, but the check engine light is often a sign of bad tranny things to come.
Good luck!
I also had the catalytic converter replaced...I think last summer. They did something else at the same time...I believe it was that O2 senser you may be talking about.
I always loved my van...but lately...NOT! Starting to look at replacing it now. It's simply not reliable. A friend also had the same situation..2001 LX...new tranny at 90K miles and again at about 130K miles.
THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!!!!!!
I've read that the Odyssey transmission problems were on 99-03 models ( I owned an '01 that needed the transmission replaced). As I don't have the '01 anymore, I am thinking about getting an '04. I've read through a few pages of this thread, but with a busy toddler I don't have time to read it all. Can anyone tell me if an '04 would be a good bet? Thanks in advance.
When you do go shopping for an '04, though, have someone take an extra peek at the transmission, though, just in case, and check the maintenance records to see if someone before you already replaced the transmission.
I did see the good marks the 2004 got in Consumer Reports--so hopefully that will continue to be the case.
By the way dont trust again in honda. Bye.
concerned. Dealer (Norm Reeves) had me bring it in 3 times before admitting trans was failing. Then I made many calls to American Honda to open a case. Today, finally, after much back and forth, Honda offered to pay 40% for an exchange trans. I am supposed to be grateful. Had I known back in 2000, I would have bought a Sienna. I realize nothing lasts forever, but Honda has a well known trans defect in this year Odyssey. Not once did I hear an apology from Honda for all the trouble and cost of a failed part due to their design flaw. Will never buy another Honda.
Thanks for the advice!
I have had 5 Honda over last 20 yrs with a 1992 Honda accord with 180K miles still running. Obviously I am not pleased with shoddy quality of Honda Odyssey. I found that it is not so easy to report a problem to Honda USA (no email contact) but I will use every avenue to notify this. :mad:
Took it to a new dealer nearby (Hamilton Handoat Hamilton NJ) and they came back with tranny, catalytic convertor, struts (!!!) & cracked motor mounts (!!!). I figured that they are trying to drum up business, though they talked to Honda and said that Honda would cover 50% of transmission. So took it to the dealer (Willis HOnda, Burlington, NJ) that I bought it from and they are saying tranny, catalytic convertor, Timing belt and spark plugs.
I talked to Honda and initiallyt they said tough luck, you are out of warranty. When I told them about the first dealer's offer they said that's the best they can do. I asked them how they could say tough luck first and then 50% is the best. They gave me a spiel about each case being different. They initially would not give me a supervisor, but after a second call said that a super would call me within 24 hrs. Super called the same day wand was very curt and said the offer would be valid only for a couple of days(whereas the 1st dealer had given a written diagnosis and offer valid for 30 days). I felt like I was dealing with shysters and not a reputable company. It was really shocking to me that they do not have a uniform spelt out poliicy of dealing with this.
Willis Honda came back to me and said that Honda is not willing to go above 50% but that the dealer would throw in couple of hundred bucks. I guess that this is the best I can get and am going to take them up on the offer.
I will never buy any Honda product again. Mark my words, this coimpany is going down the tubes in a few years the way GM & Chrysler went
:lemon: :lemon: :lemon: Erase the Honda Odyssey from your wish list. The transmission problems make this van a nightmare to own and at trade-in the Honda dealers are the worst to deal with because of the problems incurred. Case in point my 2002 Honda offered me $1000. as trade-in with a bad trans. Toyota gave me $6000. with another $2000 off as a factory incentive. Honda parent company does not admit to having a problem, although they settled a class action suit on 1999 thru 2001 models 2002 to present are still failing. Class action suits are being pursued on this website on the later ones. Please see my post # 758. Keep in mind the safety rating will look pretty good with it sitting disabled in your driveway or in the shop for transmission replacement. :lemon: :lemon:
On my initial complaint to the dealer I got the "normal condition" line. Doesn't work with me, I test aircraft for a living and know the difference between normal and "interesting". After the first visit I did my internet research, worked on defining the problem and developed my strategy for the next visit. 1st, I needed a dealer who could hook up a computer to take a snapshot during the shudder behavior. 2nd I needed a dealership technician who had seen the problem before (very important). I found both at Scholfield East Honda in Wichita, KS.
The technician, who had experienced two Odyssey's with the same condition in the past, was able to reproduce the problem, take the snapshot and send it to Honda. The solution was to replace the torque converter. The repair took two days, the torque converter was replaced, the engine computer was updated, they cleaned out the transmission cooler lines (I have a towing package) and performed an alignment all on warranty. I picked up the van this evening and it drives "properly" again.
Hope this helps. I would definitely shop for a Honda dealer that has seen this problem before. Search out a technician who knows how to reproduce the problem.
Thanks again,
Before the switch on my third tranny, shifts were quite harsh with the honda fluid.
After the switch to Amsoil synthetic ATF shift quality has improved greatly.
My Honda dealer has a great service manager who I deal with directly and he told me after the second drain and fill that the drained fluid looked superb unlike normally with the Honda fluid the drained fluid looked dark and brown. Also hetold me the drain plug magnet was clear and had virtually no filings.
I also switched to the same fluid in my Acura TL again with the help of my Acura dealership with identical results. Also my Acura dealer actually thanked me for recommending the fluid as they actually used it to solve a torque converter issue in an Acura MDX. This saved them having to replace the torque converter since the shudder had just started.
A few things that I wanted to note here are:
1. If one can find good and honest dealerships who are willing to help you then it makes it worth it to try out better products without fearing warranty issues and there indeed are dealerships out there that are good.
2. Sometimes it is just worth taking the risk to try out a new and better product. I was also discouraged by both the dealerships from using Amsoil ATF instead of the Honda Z1 ATF, but eventually I managed to convince them both to the point that they are believers. It is quite important to note that yelling at the dealerships for Honda's fault never advances your case - they won't help you, however patience and sweet talk will.
Disclaimer: I do not have anything to do with Amsoil (I am not an Amsoil dealer nor do I recoomend any) nor Honda (which is why I am not naming the dealerships here). I am basing my personal experience with my Ody 2005 and the horrors of going through with the repairs (I had many issues with my ody 2005 - tranny, motor mount, a pipe, power steering pump).
Hope that helps folks with tranny issues on the ody.
2. 5th Gear easily slips when I slightly rav to pass or the cruise at 80mph meets a regular medium length slope, where I think the car can easily maintain the required speed w/o switching back to 4th gear for more torque... Is it a problem?