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I know its not easy to get data but someone in the Odyssey owners crowd who has read many posts would have come up with educated guess based on his/her perception.
Just reading "posts" you're going to have a very small sample size (what number of the million Odyssey owners out there are actively posting....100? 200?)
Plus you have the negative bias I mentioned (much more likely that someone who HAS a tranny problem ends up on this board after they Google "Honda Odyssey Transmission Problem" - then they proceed to beeyotch about it - than it is likely that all the soccer moms with perfectly working Odysseys happen to take the time to find the Edmunds board just to say "I love my Odyssey!"
I'd bet money that the incidence is much lower than 5% failure rate.
Lost transmission at 64,000 miles.
Struts on rear hatch failed at 60,000 miles..
Is there any recourse besides signing up with class action?
Why do all the rating services give this van such a high rating?
And by the way, a "failed strut on rear hatch" is pretty inconsequential........transmission I agree, and motor mount, yes I guess, although that is more of a wear item.
Your 2002 was how old when these things happened? 7 or 8 years?
Some other reader also quoted why is this rated so high if the Odyssey has so much problems.
Thoughts and tips are welcome.
I have a 2002,
replaced the transmission almost 2 years ago $3000
Then a couple weeks later bad solenoid $250
Today it happens to be in the shop for new motor mounts $680
and new struts $550
The service guy told me the motor mounts are bad in the Odyssey, but the new redesigned ones are better. He didn't say what year they started putting in the new design.
Thanks for your response.
1963 Austin Mini
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2002 Honda Odyssey EX
http://www.odysseytransmission.com/ProblemCases/2009Page1
http://www.odysseytransmission.com/ProblemCases/2007Page1
I am pulling together printouts of this forum to march into the dealer and get the torque converter. Thank goodness I am within the drivetrain warranty (38k). This isn't anything like our '90 civic that lasted to 282,000 before being given to a recent high school student, or the CRX that went to something like 300k+ miles.
Sure, this is a great van and it works great 99% of the time. I just hate the attitude of the dealer. The do not in any way believe the customer and their 'test' techniques only favor the dealership. Our van pulled violently to the left since new, but the dealer said that it went straight at 35mph for 7 seconds - within spec. I forced them to align it, they were aghast that I might know something better than them. Ahhhh - the alignment report said that, in fact, it was terribly out of spec, but I still had to pay the 79.95 for the alignment.
Wish me luck on getting a converter. My only hope is to bury them in a paper trail so that when the trans fails out of the warranty period, they have a clear record of the problems.
My Chevy dealer bends over backwards to help. My Mercedes dealer bends over backwards and jumps through hoops. Honda treats me like an idiot. Time for them to be knocked off the pedestal!
By comparison, the '02 Ody (120k) has been relatively good. The tranny was replaced at 35k miles, and it sometimes performs a bit odd. Unfortunately, I think that this is a universal issue with 4000-4300 lb vehicles that are often loaded to well over 5000 lbs. They essentially use modified passenger car parts, yet are called upon to haul loads that rival my old Ford F-150 truck!
Thanks,
M
I've got a 2007 also. At first I thought this was a real issue, but after watching the behavior for the last 6 months, I'm convinced, at least in my case, it is a symptom of Honda's drive by wire accelerator software just being too sensitive. What I was seeing were small jumps in the tach while I was steady driving -- would not see under acceleration or while slowing down. Well, after watching things closely, I think the software in the honda is programmed such that *any* downward movement of the accelerator pad, if at a constant speed, is deemed to be a request for power, and hence the bump of the tach. In other words, you can replicate the bump of the tach by barely depressing the accelerator pad. In sum, in real world driving conditions, the accelerator pad is never completely still -- it's always moving a little bit up and down as you go over bumps, etc., -- and the software is just too sensitive. I drove a prius recently (drive by wire accelerator again) and saw very similar behavior. I think this is just an artifact of drive by wire accelerators.
Oddessy but my advice to you is to sell it or trade it in on something else!
the 5 speed AT (for V6 modles) came out in the 2000 MY, at least in the Acura TL. I believe the Odyssey fot it for 2001 (at the latest). it did initially come out in 1999 with the 4 speed. But it had the 5 speed long before 2004.
The 2005 Ody redesign carried over the same basic tranny. In 2007, they switched to a different (more robust in theory) 4 shaft design 5 speed AT (basically the tranny from the Pilot).
The problems for 2007+ seem to be mostly related to the torque converter, which is a different issue than the main tranny failures on earlier models.
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I have owned 3 Honda Accord in the past with automatics. My 94 and 99 accord does have hard shifting trannies, but there were nothing wrong with them.
My 02 Mazda MPV transmission can shift hard too 1st to 2nd gear, but there is nothing wrong with it either. Honda automatics has hard shifting characteristics, especially if you are comparing them to GM transmissions. Being different does not mean broken. I understand earlier Odyssey 99-04 does have transmission issues, but a friend of mine at work has a 99 Odyssey with 140K+ miles with no transmission issues either. He used this van for his painting business, it looks beat up, but runs fine.
Make sure you have your transmission fluid change per Honda recommendation or more frequently. Keep up with routine maintenance and your var will last much longer.
If you have issues with the transmission, bring it in and have it checked out, it will be documented by the dealer in case your transmission do break down in the future. Then use can use this to prove that you were having issues with the transmission, if it breaks down after the warranty period is over.
Did he drive 70K miles in 1.5 years? Is he a taxi driver? :confuse: ">
We initially were looking to buy an '01, but when we saw the preview sheet for the '02 for an additional $300, it was a no-brainer.
So, back to the initial points, if the original Honda warranty on a transmission is 60K miles, and they replaced it free at 70K miles, with a 36,000 mile warranty, even that takes you to an "actual" warranted period of 106,000 miles that was given. Fairly good I'd think. So, when the transmission is now bad at a total of 140,000 miles (and 10 years, including that the newer tranny also has 70K miles on it) why would we think we should get another free one now? Which car company says "we'll repair your transmission free for life, no matter how many miles you have on your car?" If Honda credits anything towards the new transmission after 140K miles consider yourself fortunate.
And yes, I too am on my 3rd transmission (replaced at 60K and 130K).
I think they need to change the maintenane schedule to include "Replace Transmission every 70k miles" for the Odyssey.
Keep buying odyssey's, I am done with Honda!
BTW, got the "not our problem" answer from American Honda and the "Oh, tough luck" response from Honda Care, a sister company that Amer. Honda says is "not us".
My independent AT shop, that has been around for 50 years, will get the same Honda remanufactured trans from the Honda facility in Ohio through a distributor and install it for less (~$2K less) with a 3 year/100,000 miles warranty. Must have been a slow day in the repair department at the dealer for them to come up with $5900.00
Then, I recently was exiting an expressway at a higher than normal speed (this is my wife's van and we drive a little differently). I noticed that the noise increased as I went around the ramp and went back to normal on a straightaway.
An "aha" moment arose...wheel bearings. Took it to my Honda dealer, out of warranty of course due to more than 36 mos. They replaced the left rear wheelbearing and the sound went away.
Maybe this will work for some of you. Service mgr. said they hadn't had many of this problem come in and had not thought to try this before as most people, myself included thought it was a vibration of tranny, A-pipe,left front bearings, etc.
http://www.odysseytransmission.com/ProblemCases/2007Page1
This site has transmission issue reported on just about every year since 1999. I don't see any 2010's yet, but they probably don't have enough miles on it yet...
http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=c5768354a6b040f9e06ff1f1ac33d1f1&- postid=565428#post565428
At the top of this page it shows a chart of how many transmssions get changed - number of times, never, etc.