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Seriously, it isn't that hard. I'll spend about $800 on parts. If you have access to another car and you're decent with the wrenches you can do it and save yourself $1000.
Honda has an excuse for everything except why it is they continue to screw Honda owners and slink out of responsibility for their faulty design. I don’t understand how a company thinks it smart to screw their customers, where do they think the next sale comes from? Certainly not me after how I was treated on a dealer and corporate level. It’s unfortunate Honda benefited from recent Toyota bad PR when Honda deserves as much bad press but the lawyers and NHTSA are too lame (or corrupt?) to help. I do blame NHTSA as being similar to SEC when it comes to they are hiding behind little scrutiny of their jobs. You see what happens when there is no accountability in govt. agencies, you have mortgage fraud, AIG, insider trading, unjust severance packages, and nearly great depression revisited. It would appear to me companies like Honda screw their customers because just as CEO’s had no fear of the SEC, they have no fear of class action attorneys and the limp NHTSA.
http://www.odyclub.com/forums/showthread.php?s=b7470310034098307acd244b423dcdc6&- threadid=100814
We have a 1998 Odyssey. So far, it has been a great minivan. Reliable, good to drive, etc. 160,000 miles,
But, last week, the transmission started to go bad. To replace it will cost 4000 or so. This is more than the blue book for the car. But, the car is in okay shape otherwise so we are tempted to fix it anyway. But, what will go bad next? Anyone driving a 1998 with more miles than 160000? Any problems?
Thanks.
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We have an 07 and have the Tranny replaced already , luckily extended warranty covered it, even though manager was hesitant to admit it was the Trans.
Now have 80k on it and debating weather to move to Sienna now or what
Overall the Ody drives great and we really love it but was wondering future headaches
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Since I knew about the problems here with the Odyssey, I called Honda of America and talked to someone there. They said they couldn't help because though I was far below the mileage for the extended warranty, I was passed the allowable time. I said I wasn't satisfied and wanted to talk to a manager. Manager said the same thing and told me to talk to the dealership to see if I can get a discount from them, but Honda of America couldn't/wouldn't help out. The dealer was suprised by that and said he'd make some calls, but I haven't heard back yet today.
Couple questions for others that have been through this -
1. when the tranny first started having problems, how long did it last before it completely failed?
2. anyone have luck working with Honda of America to get some help paying for this if they were past the mileage or time warranty deadline like I am?
3. if honda of America won't help, anyone have luck working with the dealership to get a discount?
4. if I have to get a new tranny from a non-Honda shop (because it would be cheaper than the dealership), what's a reasonable price?
5. anyone have their tranny replaced with a Honda remanufactured one and have it last for a while? the dealership worker said he hasn't seen one come back as Honda has made changes to the tranny and it's not just replacing it with the same faulty one.
Thanks!
:confuse: :mad:
They finally replaced the torque converter (although not the trannmission which is odd/probably bad) and it seems to be better. I had a 5 year/100k warrantee and they honored even though I was a little over because I reported the issue during the coverage period. The engine/tranny still is not silky smooth for such a new car so I wonder if something else down the line is looming...
recently ran out of the extended warranty period:
On Aug 27th while travelling on I10 10 miles east
of Indio, Ca the van lost all power, the engine RPM went to redline, and
smoke was pouring out of the engine compartment. After coasting to the
shoulder, I noted transmission fluid all over the engine compartment and
transmission fluid all over the ground. After an hour hike in the
desert and another hour waiting for the tow truck, the van was towed.
02 Odyssey at 71K needed a new transmission. Have a call into Honda
to see what can be done.
Something seems amiss on both parts!!
Maybe a Honda rep can get on this blog and explain the reasons why people are getting hosed twice by the same company!!
I really can't believe this. We actually reported tranny issues at approx 62K, but the dealership assured us it was nothing, so we pressed on. Now, the beast is basically dead. Amazing... I would of never guessed this would happen with a Honda, but I - and many of you would be wrong, because it appears to actually be happening to most of us...
Well I do have a Honda case number, but from the sounds of it here I would have better luck asking for them to buy me a new van than a new transmission. Heck, maybe I should of asked them to just give me directions to the nearest Toyota dealership... :-) Darn shame too, considering the 2011 Odyssey looks pretty good.
Good luck to all of you in the same boat as me...
In regard to transmission cooler and in-line filter that you suggest to add on, what will be cost roughly? and where can we get this done normally? I think I have to get my trany re-built soon, and am just wondering if it's worth to install both you have suggested, should this be done separately or should be done altogether. But I'm not sure the shop who will re-build my trany know how to install transmission cooler and in-line filter. I guess those things should help with new re-built trany in long run.
Thanks.
If you are not so handy but have a good mechanic, buy the parts and ask them to install them. I expect a pro to be able to do it in an hour, roughly $75 depending on where you live.
My transmission, which I am rebuilding myself, will be finished tomorrow. Once installed I will be sure to let everyone know the outcome, even if I end up with egg on my face. I'll spend about $800 on parts (including $150 for bearings) and another $700 or so for my mechanic to do the removal and install.
For what it's worth, I'd do it again in a second. Honestly, the transmission isn't that bad. If you stay organized and clean someone with average mechanical ability and a morbid sense of curiosity can pull this off. I'm not kidding.
I'll keep you all posted.
I received a couple of recommendations to go to a transmission place not to far from my home. They got the same codes but recommended that I they replace the 3rd gear pressure component and do a transmission flush for $250. It took one hour.
That was 4 days ago and no check engine light so far. They said they see a lot of Hondas (mostly Accords) and were surprised that I made it to 147K miles. They also said that in most cases this fix works, but if it doesn't they would credit me the $250 and fix my transmission for $3000.
Hope this helps,
Browneee
I then took my car to a transimission shop that was recommended to me. They ran the diagnosis and found the same codes. Their recommendation was to replace the 3rd gear pressure component and conduct a transmission flush for $250. That was four days ago and the check engine light is still off. They said they see a lot of Hondas (mostly Accords) and were surprised that I made it to 147K miles. They also said in most cases this fix works and no transmission in needed. I will post again if my check engine light comes back on.
Hope this helps,
Browneee
So, a couple of times last week, the van started racing on acceleration, RPM's to red. Then, this past Sunday, I was going downhill on the highway when the check engine light came on and the "D" began flashing. It felt like I couldn't get the van to go. I made it up the major hill to the next exit, then drove it to the repair shop. They did the diagnostics Monday and said the error code showed the #1 and #2 selenoid needed to be replaced. They did that, the check engine light went out, and the diagnostics said the problem was fixed. The mechanic drove it, though, and said it was still "freewheeling," (The way he describes freewheeling seems to me like the problem I've been having with the van since January.) Anyway, now he wants to charge me $4000 for a rebuilt transmission.
My question is, if the computer says the error code was fixed by replacing the selenoids, do I really need a new transmission, or could the remaining problem really be the fuel pump relay? I don't want to pay for a new tranny and still have the same problem with the van. Any ideas? :confuse:
can't say about this particular problem, but it is possible for a failure at one place can show up as an error code downstream.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Unfortunately there is no fix except to replace the clutches (and steels) as part of a rebuild. There is no magic sauce that you can add. The damage is done.
Are you using a transmission cooler? I think they should be required on these vans. Have one added when you do the rebuild. Hayden makes a good unit for about $70.
The mechanic at the local shop, who *only* works on Odysseys, and *only* owns Hondas himself, says it's absolutely necessary to change the transmission fluid every year. He also says that Honda won't tell you this, because that would be an admission of a problem. And of course the warranty and class-action lawsuit have just expired.
Oh, and I was in the (small) shop with two other Odyssey owners. A pox on Honda.
I have a 01 EX Odyssey with 74K miles on it. Honda Dealer performed a trans oil drain/fill 5 days ago. I noticed since then when engine is cold trans gets stuck from changing 1st to 2nd gear, after a while changes with big slip. This happens only when the engine is cold and I have to take it easy on accelerator until it changes to 2nd.
This is 2nd trans which was replaced at 42 K in 2004. Is this a sign of another trans failure ? Should I contact the dealer/AH and check if it's still under warranty ?
I'm not mechanic (just made my transmission fluid change but that's it) so I'm thinking to get cooler and in-line filter installation done by some shop. But I'd like to understand better before asking the shop to do it. Two specific questions:
1. Does the new cooler replace the existing one or it's new add-on? I saw several types of Hayden transmission cooler on their website, I kind of confused what kind I should choose. Are they all fit or just specific one? Which part number are you using?
2. I imagine the in-line filter placed outside the tranny, do you use any existing hose run through it, or how it goes? (I guess it can be put on hose connected to the cooler, am I right?)
Again thanks a lot for your input!
I just did exactly what you did and experienced the same thing with my 07 Odyssey. I brought it back in, and they discovered that the tourque converter needed to be replaced. I just got it back yesterday, and that seems to have solved the problem. We'll see in the next few days if the "shudder" (as they called it) remains gone.
Also, the trasmission is still covered under warranty to 5yrs/60000 miles.
Any Hayden cooler is better than that thing that Honda uses, but a *stacked plate* design is more efficient, although more expensive than a *tube and fin* style. I like this one:
http://www.transmissioncoolers.us/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=- T&Product_Code=1677&Category_Code=hayden-transaver-cooler
I need to check to make sure it will install without problems (specifically the orientation of the fittings).
You can splice into the factory cooler lines to add the filter. Just be sure to use TRANSMISSIONS FLUID LINES! Don't buy fuel line, it can't handle the temperature and pressure.
The Magnafine that I had really saved my bacon. When that clutch disk decided to check out, it barfed metal shavings into the case. The filter caught the debris before it could end up in the valve body and mess up the servo and soleniods.
My mechanic should be working on the van Friday. I'm anxious to get it back. It's been a valuable experience in a lot of ways, but I'm ready to move on to another project.
Had the transmission 'repaired' for the warranty recall issue about 18 months ago, so I called Honda North America to file a case; they basically told me 'your warranty has expired, you're on your own."
Debating if I want to buy another Honda in future. Bottom line, watch out - you're having the same symptoms as mine and their party line is no for a 2001 (too late).
Also, I know I sound like a broken record, but make sure you can install an aftermarket transmission cooler (like the Hayden 678) instead of that toy that Honda likes to use, and that Honda will still honor the warranty if its installed.
Proper heat management and maintenance will be the best protection for any automatic transmission, but especially for the Odyssey.
were you the original owner or not? I am in the exact same situation with a 2001 around 85K miles and needing a new transmission and Honda has told me "too bad", I'm assuming because I am the second owner. The original owner had all service and regular maintenance done at the dealership up to 75K miles. I know Honda owes me nothing as I am past the time period for the warranty even though I am below the mileage limit. But seeing Honda come through for you makes me want to try again with them, though I suspect it is the fact that I am not the original owner that will keep Honda from helping me.
Also, I've learned that Honda is very reluctant to allow dealerships to rebuild these units. They ask that the defective transaxles be sent back for replacement. That just seems odd to me.
It's probably because they can do the work faster and cheaper than the dealership.
In my opinion the service interval is too long for these units. I serviced ours several times a year and it lasted 190,000 miles before a clutch disk let go and trashed a couple bearings.
By the way I finally got the van back yesterday...and...drum roll, please...it works! Nice crispy shifts, lower shift rpms, clean converter lock-up, and a tremendous sense of satisfaction. I'd do it again in a second.
For reference we have a 1999 Odyssey with the B7TA 4-speed. It's the same unit that was put in the Accord and Acura TL that year. The same transmission in a heavier vehicle means...more heat. Like I've said before, heat management is extremely important in these units! You MUST install an after market unit (like the Hayden 678), an inline (i.e. serciveable) external filter, and service it annually. Well, I guess you could shell out $4,000 for a rebuilt transmission instead, but why not be proactive?
If anyone is interested in the summary of the rebuild, let me know. Honestly, it's pretty involved, but if you keep your wits about you it really isn't that bad, assuming you like to turn wrenches and solve problems.
It's probably because they can do the work faster and cheaper than the dealership.
Faster? I doubt it. You really don't need any special tools to rebuild one of these units.
Cheaper? You bet. If I did these every day I'm sure I could finish one in 2 days. Compare your factory pay rate in Japan vs. paying a U.S. Tech to do the same thing. Now, it costs HOW MUCH to buy one of these from Honda? $4,000. That's a lot of additional scratch going straight to Japan instead of your local dealer.
That $4,000 gets you clutches, steels, retainers, maybe some new bearings, o-rings, seals, gaskets, and a torque converter. That's a lame deal. I put $500 in parts in mine and it's running great.
Who needs there 1999-2001 transmission rebuilt? Maybe I'll start a side business building these things.