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I then called up Honda and told them what I was doing and it was my attention to let everyone know that Honda doesn't stand behind their products. I directed them to the page. I said it was magical that with Facebook I was reaching potentially millions of potential Honda owners and yet for $3000 Honda was willing to sacrifice much more. Magically, they fixed it for free the next day.
If you live near Ohio, let me know. I'm a tech at a dealer and I rebuilt the transaxle in our 1999 Odyssey. The parts cost me $600 and I provided the labor.
HOnda has now discontinued it and replaced it with DW1..a synthetic. Great, 10 years of burn up clutch packs and torque converters and finally they get it.
Essentially you drain, fill, and drive 5 times to get rid of all the old Z-1 poison out.
The DW-1 is expensive, it cost me $240 to do the above procedure properly, but it may save your tranny. Also accuratecars.com recommends that on Honda's you "flush" once a year, about 15,000 miles every year once you have the new DW-1 in the van.
Hope this works!
Then when you get your Ody back, don't ignore the tranny, it's very easy to do, but don't!
Change the fluid every year, install a Magnefine filter on the return line to catch the wear and tear from getting back into the case, don't use the HOnda Z1 fluid..ever.
Use a good quality synthetic like Amalie it's only $5.08 a quart shipped to your door free shipping in a case of 12. I know a very reputable re-buider who sends his trannies out with a 5 year 50,000 mile warranty and that's the stuff he has used for years without a problem.
My question is, if you change the fluid that often do you really need extra filtering (Magnafine filter)? The tranny drain plug is a magnet and it should catch the little bit of metal in the fluid between fluid changes.
I know it is extra insurance but do you really need it with regular fluid servicing?
But now after doing a complete change and the fluid is nice and pink again I think a drain and fill once a year should be fine.
I will never buy another Honda They DO NOT stand by their products!
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Transmission problem at about 83K. Took into Honda dealer. Told me I needed a new transmission. Quoted me $3K. In disbelief - hello, this is a HONDA! Anyway, I turned on the feminine charm and asked the customer service guy (at the dealership) what would he do if he was me. He said get on the phone to Honda USA. So I started that process. I was very nice, but insisted that a HONDA should not need a new transmission at 83K. Told them I've always bought Hondas, my brother works at GM, maybe I need to start looking at GMs, etc. Also, when I took my car into the shop, the Mississippi Honda area representative guy was in the Michigan shop getting his oil change. He too, said, that it shouldn't happen and he called his peer in the Michigan area. Anyway - it ended up being I paid 10% and Honda paid 90% of the transmission.
And to top it off, I was in at Honda yesterday and the new car salesman who has sold Hondas for over 20 years, made the comment that "Honda took care of all the 2003 transmission problems" - not via a recall but on an individual basis. I had to correct him, that if it wasn't for the Mississippi rep and the customer service guy in the repair department, I might have had to shell out $3,000!
So anyway, looking to replace our 2003 with a 2011 Ody. I hope I don't shoot myself in the foot for buying another one. My husband is insisting on the extra warranty!
Many thanks.
So my question is, anyone else get this after a rebuild? Also, I think the class action suit is dead. I can't get a hold of Mr Stammell and his office line is always voice mail. His website is not functional. Anyone else going to sue Honda for this garbage?
I also have an '08 Odyssey and you get routine service when the car tells you to - and it didn't give me any indication that it was time to change transmission fluid yet, but I did it anyways at 36k miles just in case.
I have had mine changed twice (every 30K, and I just turned 6 years/60K on it). Preventive maintenance, paranoia, and since the dealer is the one doing it, they can't claim I didn't take care of it if it fails early!
Oh, I have a 2000 Acura TL, so I kind of cheat and use the service schedule in that owners manual to know when the bigger stuff should be done (same basic engine and tranny).
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
My 2001 Odyssey has had the transmission completely replaced 3 times and it just failed AGAIN.
Any luck dealing with Regional Parts and Service rep? Accelerating to the Zone Manager?
- Dean
I returned the car again around 70k and Honda still tells me nothing is wrong.
Honda V6 transmissions have been failing at high rates since year 2000. I'm personally fed up with this BS after owning 3 Honda models with bad transmissions (2000 Odyssey, 2003 Accord V6, and 2006 Odyssey).
We need to get together and form another class action suit for the 3rd generation Odyssey. The torque converters are faulty and Honda is not owning up to the problem.
In 2010 my daughters 02 accord tranny died at 104K miles, she had it serviced at the same dealer only a couple of times ( starving student for sure) they stepped up on hers too..no charge..known defect..hidden warranty by Honda. $3k Transmission installed for free.
Bottom line ...use the same dealer service dept for tranny service every 30Kmiles and Honda will step up.
Because they took care of my daughters car too, we are buying another Odyssey very soon.
Toyota told me to pack sand on a recall for my Tacoma because it was over 36K miles, even with toyota extra care warranty( recalls not covered )I had my Toyotas serviced their for 25 years. never buying another Toyota. I have owned Camry, Cressida, Previa, Van, and 2 Trucks,
they tossed me to the curb! This Odyssey was our first Honda, but not our last, only because of the service department.
http://www.odysseytransmission.com/Home/WhatToDo
http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX/.f0fa11e/1798
http://www.odysseytransmission.com/
http://www.autoobserver.com/2010/03/honda-odyssey-owners-report-transmission-tro- ubles-inconsistent-response-from-maker.html
http://forums.automobilemag.com/70/6556907/technical-discussion/2003-honda-odyss- ey-transmission-problems/index.html
http://www.topix.com/forum/autos/honda-odyssey/TMV260BBCMRD68F50
http://www.carcomplaints.com/Honda/Odyssey/1999/transmission/transmission_failur- e.shtml
Last week, at 89,000 miles, we lost the one in our 2003 EX-L. Thus far, Honda is offering to pay for half (net $2,700) of the replacement cost.
Both of these cases seem pretty good compared to what other people are experiencing, however, NEITHER, obviously, should have happened. Honda should have engineered a better unit; and when they realized what they had, they should have been stand up about it. They have not been. Regardless of how my particular case turns out, I have bought my last Honda. Any corporation willing to treat its customers this way, for THIS long, does not deserve MY business.
I have always been happy paying a little more at the dealership to have piece of mind on the service and warranty, but now I am forced to go to outside mechanics because I am afraid of something like this happening again.
Our car never shuddered with the bad engine mounts. I know for a fact that our torque converter needs to be replaced. I'm unwilling to spend the money on a car that was meticulously maintained and pampered.
I have a 2001 Toyota Celica with 218k miles that never had any major problems. It even has the original clutch! My neighbor has a 1997 Toyota Camry with 268k miles all original - only brakes, tires, & oil change needed.
My history with Honda has not been that great. 2000 Odyssey two failed transmissions, 2003 Accord EX-V6 failed transmission at 59k, and now 2006 Odyssey bad torque converter.
I have 270,000 kms on my 2002 Odyssey and had a transmission replaced with the supports at 170.000 kms. I had a warranty of 30,000 kms.
Is it coincidence that 3 of my V6 Honda cars had transmission failures? All under 100K miles.
Although I put alot of kms on each year I do not treat it like a racing machine and I let the transmission decide when to change gears. I cannot believe how hot the transmssion can get if you floor it from a stop until it reaches 119,000 kms/hour on the 401.
I filed a claim with American Honda, but it got denied. I called multiple times to petition the denied claim, but each time was told there was nothing they could do for me. I wrote a letter to the president of American Honda (although I doubt it ever got anywhere close to him), and that too got denied. I filed a claim through the Bureau of Automotive Repair, and once again, Honda denied it. When I realized that Honda was never going to budge on this, I filed a small claims suit against them. It ended up being a pretty easy win. The judge ordered them to pay me $5000 for the cost of a new transmission and to reimburse me for the $1200 I spent on the dealership’s mis-diagnosis.
I’m not sure if the Honda representative they sent to court was told to lie, just didn’t know his facts, or was a complete idiot. One of the questions the judge asked him was if there was a known problem with the transmissions in this model and year. The judge said that he knows Honda keeps statistics on stuff like this and would know if these transmissions had a higher than normal failure rate. The Honda rep replied “Within American Honda, we don’t acknowledge that there is a known problem with these transmissions.” I then presented the judge with the warranty extension, the class action suit, a Honda press release and thousands of Internet posts. Really? Honda has no idea there’s a problem? This isn’t what ended up winning the case for me, but I thought this was an interesting interaction that everyone here would get a kick out of.
The Sandman :sick: :shades:
2023 Hyundai Kona Limited AWD (wife) / 2015 Golf TSI (me) / 2019 Chevrolet Cruze Premier RS (daughter #1) / 2020 Hyundai Accent SE (daughter #2) / 2023 Subaru Impreza Base (son)
Thanks!
But my check engine light did come on and my mechanic said that it was a code for the transmission, but he couldn't find any problems. The van was in for a check for everything, thought I would need a tune up of some kind, did not, just rotors and the front brakes needed replacing-only the second time I have had to replace the brakes. He "cleared" the code, said to drive it and if it came on again, to come back-that he knew that this specific make and model has had transmission problems-and that it might be time for a new tranny.
So the question is, what is an approximate life of a tranny? I used to be a VW bug mechanic back in the 70's, and I would like to think that any tranny's life would be around 175k-200k, but I also know that it depends on the driver, etc. I am a cautious defensive driver, never drive radically, anticipate my stops so I don't ride my brakes or tranny, service it regularly, etc. So I started doing some research on the Web and was amazed at how many problems other owners of this model have had.
I am planning on driving this van from MA to FLA in April. So you can imagine why I am wondering.
Thank you.