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Anybody else have this and, if so, what's the remedy :confuse: ?
-FS
Have you noticed the same?
-FS
My mechanic tells me that the transmissions on these cars is not very good and they have a history of problems. He also told me that he knows of people for whom Honda has replaced the Transmission past warranty. Has anyone had any luck getting this done? If so how do you go about it?
I must say that we are pleased that Honda took responsiblity, and lived up to what I expected.
Thanks!
I have serviced that transmission myself at least six times. What's my point? My point is that a 45,000 service interval for ANY automatic transmission is bunk, despite what the service manual says. In my opinion the MAXIMUM mileage for service should be 24,000 miles or two years. I personally think all Odyssey transmissions should be serviced annually. The transmission has no filter, only a magnetic drain plug and two internal filter screens that are not serviceable. My opinion again, but that is irresponsible engineering, and smacks of planned obsolescence.
Servicing the transmission annually will greatly reduce the amount of sludge and junk inside the transmission and will significantly prolong the life of any automatic transmission.
To service your Odyssey tranmission you will need three and a half quarts of Honda transmission fluid and a new crush washer. The fluid is about six dollars a quart, and crush washers are usually about two for a dollar. The net cost is about twenty dollars a year. In my book that is cheap insurance and is your best bet against an expensive repair bill. The whole operation can be done with simple hand tools and a drain pan. Even if you have no tools, your total investment in tools for this project is less than thirty dollars.
By the way, our TCS light does come on occasionally for no apparent reason, along with the Check Engine light. I know this is a pretty good sign of pending failure, but I am just going to grit my teeth and keep plugging along until it fails. Also, every time I service that transmission the van shifts smoother for months.
I hope this helps.
If everything else is good with the car and you are still happy with it, then invest in rebuilding the transmission. To help justify the cost, just think that the rebuild will be the same as around 4 new car payments.
Absolutely do not pay for a transmission replacement.
First check this website to see if your car's VIN# is part of the Honda class action suit for early transmission failures: link title
After that, call American Honda and open a case number. They will most likely do a goodwill for you since '00-'02 & early '03 Honda V6 cars had major failure rates.
Last resort, find another Honda dealer and explain that you are aware of the Class Action Suit & mass transmission failures.
Hope this helps. I have first hand experience with this situation, my '00 Odyssey had 2 tranny replacements & my old '03 Accord had one at 40k miles.
Honda North America, through good faith, will typically pay for the transmission, and you can either pay the dealer to install it or do it yourself. For me they also covered the cost of a small rental car while the dealership is waiting for and installing the new transmission.
The 2005 model did have some first year model issues particularly with brakes and power steering pumps, but they were largely worked out by 2006. I have noted people have had some problems with droning sounds on the cylinder deaactivation models.
Extended warranties are always tempting. I've always shied away from them figuring the premium savings would help pay for repairs if needed. Also Honda has generally been pretty good at standing behind their products even past warrantee as exhibited by some of the transmission replacements they've done outside of warrantee on the 99-04 models. There are some dumb dealers however who will try to gouge you.
Hope this helps.
Mine would be to change the trans. fluid twice as often as is recommended.
This advice is coming from someone who had 3 transmission failures ('03 Accord at 40k miles & '00 Odyssey at 95k + 100k) and still keeps buying Hondas.
We have a 2000 Odyssey (103,00 miles) all normal servicing was done via the first owner @ dealership.
He did however change own oil and stated he used mobil 1 synthetic.
we recently aquired this 2000 Odyssey EX from it's previous one owner and feel like we got a great deal, as he was able to provide all previous service records from Honda. I was a bit concerned b/c of bad trannies, but he had Honda install one in Sept 06 at 80,000 miles under the recall.
also note, timing belt has YET to be serviced.
PROBLEM:
few weeks I drove about 10 miles, no problem, parked car and shut off, about 10 min. later, it would not start, like it was turning over too fast or something, as soon as we called the tow truck (1/2 hour or so later) boom! started right up and did not give me any PROBLEMS.
Took to the local community automotive college, they tested it and it came back as CAT EFF. Code
and TRANS code, they cleared them and asked me to return in a week to see if they came back and they did. They thought perhaps, when HONDA put in warrenty tranny, they forgot to clear codes.
Something about the third gear pressure plate was what came back on the tranny code, tech said it wouldn't affect driveability. THE CATALYIC code was the other.
BEEN DRIVING IT FINE TILL THIS WEEK,
Drove from work to gas station, fillled up with gas, got in and wouldn't start, tried to turn over and it seemed like it wasn't getting fuel, Made sure gas cap was on correctly (know they are sensitive). Tried several times that eve to get it started, no luck, then in the chilly morning, it fired up, so we returned later in afternoon to drive it to autozone, where it fired up (slowly) went to AZ, had them hook it up and same codes above were all that showed up.
Naturally, since we had to shut it off at AutoZone, it would not restart till this morning, where we drove it home. Just a few min. ago, it started fine but as soon as I shut it off, it refused to restart.
auto zone said something about EGR valve (which I think is related to the CAT code).
ANY IDEAS? Obviously we have to go to the dealership, but we are a POOR family, my hubby is somewhat mechanically inclined. I just want to be pointed in the right direction.
By rights, since our oddy is still qualified under tranny warrenty (the extension to 109,000 miles depending on VIN number) HONDA should take care of the trans code, will they hassle me since, I am not the orig. owner but the second with all the orig. records showing honda servicing, ( I have heard Horror stories about different dealerships and warrenty coverage).
:shakehead
Apryl Brown
However, you will need clear documentation that all maintenance was done at the recommended intervals.
But Honda should probably be willing to fix this. They have been very good with transmission work in recent model Hondas...
I would also get that timing belt replaced. Waiting until the van is past 100K worries me. Traditionally I've changed timing belts in the 90,000 mile range, but some people do it at 60K.
It's hard to be positive when you're dealing with what you are, but you bought from the right company. They'll take care of you!
I would try another dealer, and tell them that you know that Honda North America will cover the cost of the transmission. It may not be parts and labor, but they should at least cover the parts.
There have been other Odysseys with far higher mileage that have qualified for new transmissions; myself being one of them.
They should make a van with a manual tranny so I don't have to worry about this stuff (I have an '05)
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Have you ever read this link title
Have you called American Honda or are you just workin with a local dealer? Call AMerican Honda and open a case#, they should give you some credit on $4000 tranny job.
And even then, Honda did not pay for the labor to install the transmission for me. They simply paid for the parts.
I rememeber reading somewhere that the cutoff was 100K, but I'm not sure.
Try opening a case file with Honda; while it may be more difficult for you to get the transmission completely replaced for free, they may offer partial credit.
And to the person who has a case number and has not received a reply, try calling them back to check on your case, or maybe get the dealership to.
I got a call later in the day stating that Honda agreed to cover the new transmission (rebuilt) and the dealership will cover the labor. It was too good to be true. In fact I asked for it in writing. In fact, I did receive a faxed copy in writing! Now, I could have received a different vehicle. However, there was nothing on the lot that I liked. Well within my price range.. So I will have a rental car for a week now (the dealership is paying for that too!).
I will keep you all posted on the final outcome..the fixed ride!
They are covering themselves for an embarassing & huge design error. Did you read the class action law suit?link title
Honda is trying to save its "legendary reliability" reputation as published in their new car literature.
I hope the previous poster realizes his transmission troubles are not over. Honda replaces the defective unit with another "rebuilt" defective unit (no design mods).
We had 2 transmissions put in our '00 Odyssey, one at 95k and one at 100k. It now has 142k but I keep my fingers crossed that we can squeak another 10-20k. The transmission acts the same as the first two (slipping 1st to 2nd).
Your transmssion will be replaced with another rebuilt (defective) tranny. Odysseys are great cars otherwise but you need to know there is a good probability of failure in the near future. Search this site for repeat failure rateslink title
Maybe try a Sienna, they have great reliability ratings according to Consumer Reports.
I thought the transmission was modified a few years back by some type of device that pumped more trans fluid over the second gear... something along those lines.
That said, we came close to buying the 2004 Ody... choose the Mazda MPV instead. I do like the redesign of the Ody, and despite past trans. problems the current generation Ody seems to be doing very well.
I'm amazed Honda is willing to put a new one in at their expense for a vehicle with that many miles. Most manufacturers(Including GM & Toyota) will only warantee their transmissions to 60,000 or 100,000 miles at most.
I'd say Honda is definetly going beyond the call of duty on this one.
The transmission was modified late 2003. I know this because our old 2003 Accord V6 (same tranmission as Ody) had the recall for second gear lubrication.
They inspected the second gear for discoloration with a camera through an inspection port. It passed, no discoloration & they installed the lubrication kit. Then at 35k the tranny started slipping...failed at 42k & replaced for free - no questions asked (out of warranty). Traded the car for a new '06 Odyssey.
The 2004 Ody does have reported failures but not that frequent. As for the '05+ it is too early to tell. They put a new 4-shaft design in the '07's (same as Pilot & Ridgeline). So...maybe there will still be some failures.
And yes, I probably will buy another Honda since they build cars that fit my tastes. Good gas mileage, safety, ergonomics, & handling (could do without the road noise & road shock).