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May I please ask if anyone has any comments about the 2009 Honda Pilot's cylinder deactivation and performance?
Can you feel the transition between running modes?
How's the power and acceleration?
I'm asking because that's the car, along with the Toyota Venza, that my wife has narrowed the choices down to. The reviews of the Pilot, while generally favorable, seem to think the car is a little underpowered.
She currently drives a 2007 Toyota RAV- 4 with the V6 engine, and it's very responsive.
Any comments would be much appreciated.
Thanks, CanStacker
On the whole, the system works well. I live in a very hilly area (Western PA) and therefore don't get too many opportunities to run extended distances on less than 6 cylinders.
Can you feel the transition between running modes?
Not at all. The only discernable difference is the amount of engine sound, fewer cylinders means less sound. Re-engagement of the additional cylinders when power is needed is very smooth.
How's the power and acceleration?
Power and acceleration are adequate. You're not going to be blown away by the power, but at the same time I don't find it lacking. My other car is a 265 hp Maxima and so I definitely notice the difference, but at the same time I don't feel like I'm mashing the pedal to the floor with no response.
Overall the Pilot accelerates less robustly than much of its competition -- this was one of my main "cons" when considering the vehicle. It has one less gear than most. That said, I have found that once I understood the rythym of the car I can accerlate very nicely. It doesn't want to be gunned, it wants you to increase pressure on the pedal as it builds up speed. If you go with the feel of the vehicle I have accelerated very nicely and in better time than was reported in most of the reviews.
CanStacker
CanStacker
We were down to two dealers with comparable prices, one had Mocha, the other Dark Cherry. We got the Cherry one.
Was wondering if anyone had any specific thoughts on one versus the other. Right now we are looking at a $40-60/month difference in payment, comparably equipped. We are looking at two trim levels of each: Pilot in EX-L and Touring, and Acura in Base and Tech. Feature-wise, they are comparable, although I realize the MDX will be a step up in ways that don't show up on lists.
A little history... my husband had a 2005 Pilot, now has a 2008 Ridgeline, and I went from a 2004 Odyssey to a 2006 MDX. We have been very happy with all of these vehicles. I did spend a lot of time in our 05 Pilot and obviously know my 06 MDX very well. But it's hard to say if those comparisons even matter now because both vehicles have been redesigned.
When I test-drove the new Pilot I was very impressed. The ride was better, and they improved the features and technology a bunch, it has everything I need. The new MDX has a very sporty ride, I liked it, but was surprised how different it drove from the old MDX.
We were also considering the Mazda CX-9 (safety ratings aren't as high, so it didn't make the short list) and the Volvo XC90 (our first choice, but payment is sky-high due to poor lease terms right now).
Anyway... I like that the automakers are constantly redesigning and improving their vehicles, but it makes it difficult sometimes -- just when you think you know everything there is to know, you realize you probably don't know much of anything!
I'd love to hear any thoughts... thanks.
The biggest reason was more cargo/passenger room in the Pilot vs the MDX. I drive a Nissan Maxima and our 2009 Pilot is mainly driven by my wife. But it also doubles as our "utility / family vehicle" and is used when we need to take more than 4 people somewhere or if I need to take advantage of the cargo area. The Pilot is clearly superior over the MDX in that regard.
In your case, it sounds like your Ridgeline may serve that role, in which case you might not see this as a benefit but possibly a negative due to gas mileage and handling concerns.
There's also the price difference. For a few grand more, you'll get a more refined interior and the cache of the Acura badge. I'm not a status-seeker, and while I think they could have done more with the Pilot interior, the upgraded MDX interior wasn't enough for me to merit the increase in price.
MDX is a better driving experience and a vastly nicer interior finish (the exterior was nicer in our opinion too). And the nav system had a paid-option for real-time traffic alerts and re-routing, which is nice. On the Pilot’s plus side it has substantially more interior room. You could seat up to 8 adults in the Pilot (we have) where the MDX can seat 7 bodies, but only 4 seats are compatible with most adults(and lest you think 4 is enough, remember if you have little kids in car seats, they will need those middle row side seats which reduces adult space to 2 or 3). Neither the rear row or the middle seat of the second row are viable for grown-ups (I had to physically bend my neck sideways because I was taller than the roof, even in the middle of the second row; I am 6’1”). More storage space too. The Pilot also has more “tech” than the tech package on the MDX, ironically. I was shocked that the MDX still doesn’t have the iPod integration standard in the Pilot Touring. We use this more than our radio. Other than the real-time traffic on the MDX and iPod control on the Pilot the nav and radio systems are identical. The Pilot also gets better gas mileage and doesn’t require premium fuel so your cost to operate will be less. On top of all this, the Pilot retains as much residual value as the MDX, which is surprising. You should also make sure that you really are getting comparably equipped in your comparison. For example, the tow prep and tow hitch is not standard on the MDX in any package but is standard on the Touring
The CX-9 is a great car. It was the extremely close second for us. The Volvo wasn’t as impressive. It has a weak nav system, poor MPH and surprisingly its safety record is no better than the competition. Its customer satisfaction record is middle of the pack at best.
Good luck.
this my first buy vehicle. is the deal was ok?
after 1 month I noticed that the vehicle will slowly pulls to the right, and just brought to the dealer today. they let me enter in their service bay and alllow me to look at the computer wheel alignment monitor and they say it has a slight misalignment at the pass side front wheel and rear. now my 2009 pilot is back on track. Glad! to the mechanic and service crew...
If you look at the dealer cost of those accessories and then back off what should have been savings on a demo, I'd think you should have been around $32k before taxes.
Pilot retains its value so much better, that is another money.
Plus Pilot is better than Tahoe in below (used CR's comapre it in latest models)
Braking
Driving Position
Rollover Test (govt)
Body Integrity
Body Hardware
Power Eqip
Used Car Verdict
Don't judge a car simply by the exhaust pipe looks like a coffee can...
The Pilot, with EPA ratings of 17/23, seats 8 and accelerates at roughly the same rate as the Tahoe (with its best EPA ratings of 15/20).
The Pilot starts at roughly $10,000 less than the Tahoe, an offers the best fuel economy on the base vehicle, without having to step-up to an option (as opposed to the Tahoe, where the base Tahoe makes less power and uses more fuel than the 5.3).
No doubt, the Tahoe gets good fuel economy considering its weight, but that doesn't mean that the Pilot is a guzzler just because it weighs less. It also doesn't make the Pilot a "small SUV"
You really want a Tahoe?
Get the GM pimp car: the Escalade!
:lemon:
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&cat- cgry1=PILOT&catcgry2=2009&catcgry3=5DR%20TOUR%204WD&catcgry4=KA5AT&catcgry5=CENT- ER%20CONSOLE%20(1)&vinsrch=null
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/auto/jsp/mws/prddisplay.jsp?inputstate=5&cat- cgry1=PILOT&catcgry2=2009&catcgry3=5DR+TOUR+4WD&catcgry4=KA5AT&catcgry5=CENTER+C- ONSOLE+%281%29
(It is part number 22 "Divider")
Not sure why the link is showing up properly... so here is the info... (I ordered this part from them).. The company is Majestic Honda. There website address is: http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com/...select your year, model etc.
Good luck!
GLC won't come into play if you are on reasonably level ground, so the shift points can be checked with whatever driving style you prefer.
The fact that the car is receiving X amount of throttle but isn't speeding up or maintaining f(x) speed, then it knows it's on a grade. Conversely, if you are applying the brakes x amount, and aren't decelerating f(x) amount, the car can recognize the downhill grade.
In the amount it "guzzles" gas, its likely saving you that much in brakes.
Took to dealer and checked ABS and flushed brake line.
Didn't fix problem. The sound will stop if I pump the brake pedel.
However, it will do it again when I press on the peddle. It happens every 7 out of 10 times I push on the brakes.
Any ideas as to what the problem is or where to start?
Click that link, it will take you to the proper discussion. You are currently in a forum for the 2009 Honda Pilot Crossover SUV.
Good luck!
TheGraduate
I had to shop at a mall for several hours today. I had parked my new Pilot (EX-L RES) in the parking lot before dark and then came back to the car when the mall was closing and found that all the windows and sunroof of my car left open. I never opened the windows and sunroof today so I am 100% sure they were shut. I remote opened the doors from a distance so I do not know whether the doors were also left open. I do not know either how long my car was left that way in the parking lot. So far, there have been no issues this 1 month old car. Today, I was driving in rain in the morning - I am wondering if this weather condition might have caused this or if a remote key from someone else might have triggerred this.
I believe that the power should be on at least briefly before the windows can be operated. I have no idea how the power can be on without me inserting the key.
Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks.
tidester, host
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Rain might have been a problem, but I am wondering what other reasons can be.
Thanks, anyway.
What might have caused this to happen?
Maybe by accident (or in a purse or pocket) the unlock button was pushed twice and held either when you left the car or when you approached (but before you looked at the car). I'm not sure what the range of the remote is, but from the description of the open windows and sunroof, it sounds like the button was pushed. Either that or a malfunction.
Thanks for the ideas.