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I am having the tires replaced today. We were going to replace them in October anyway, but I picked up a nail in the right rear last night. After some research I decided to go with Firestone Destination LE's. I got to the Firestone dealer and he showed me the Destination A/T's that he just got in. He mentioned that no one in town had installed a set yet and that he would sell them to me at the same price as the LE's. So I am going with the A/T's. Firestone has a 30 day test drive on their tires so if I don't like them I can go back in a couple of weeks and swap them for the LE's. I hope they aren't too loud.
I also talked to the dealer about a transmission fluid change. This is what he said. They recommend a fluid drain every 15 K and a complete fluid blow out every 60 K. If you follow this procedure you do not have to change the transmission filter. If you do not follow this procedure they strongly suggest changing the transmission filter at 60 K before it gets clogged. Also, he said to use Mitsubishi transmission fluid and not another brand because the Mitsu fluid has extra additives. He said other brands can be used for the differential fluid and for the transfer case but should not be used for the transmission.
Do you have the same color for both front and back differentials? If so that is kind of strange. I did notice that the color of my front diff fluid was a darker color than the rear but both smelled fine. I would have anticipated that the rear should have been darker than the front since I only use my 4-wheel drive about once a week.
Hope this info helps.
The Montero front dif is wrost then the rear on mine. And yes the metal shaving is like you described. I am trying to find a place to perform gear oil analysis before I take this to the dealer.
I have a feeling that something is wrong with the Montero gear set up and many of us will be in a supprised by the replacement cost when this vehicle gets older.
Steve, Host
Engine Controls - MIL ON/DTC P0125 Set
No.: TSB-03-13-001
DATE: January, 2003
MODEL: See below
SUBJECT:
PCM REPROGRAMMING FOR MIL ON/DTC P0125
PURPOSE
Incorrect PCM software parameters may cause the MIL ("SERVICE ENGINE SOON") light to come on and Diagnostic Trouble Code P0125 to set. This typically occurs with no driveability concerns. To eliminate this condition, reprogram the PCM as described in this bulletin.
For only 2001 Montero vehicles, replace the oxygen sensors after reprogramming the PCM. (See Step 19 in this bulletin.)
AFFECTED VEHICLES
2001-2002 Montero
Seems like someone posted it or a link to it a long while ago?
Thanks, in advance.
-PHOnos
Edmunds Maintenance Guide
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Steve, Host
Here is the list:
D(drive) idicator light went out.
Center diff Light stuck on, said it was something in the trans.
Power Antenna broke.
Brakes at 40,000 miles
Here is a good one, after a rainy night I went to get in the vehicle and I heard the radio making noise. I wasn't even in it. Seems the amp was floating in water. It is located in the back right wheel well.
The dealership took it to a glass place to reseal the window. Replaced the fried amp.
Just a few months afterwards , same thing. Another fix by the window place and another new amp.
Here is what I found out today. Rust under the rear seaL of the back door. You will have to look under the seal at the spot welds. Each one was rusting. Body shop guy said he never has seen that before. I have heard that every time. I am stuck in a lease upside down. What can I do to get rid of this? The body shop guy didn't think this was an easy fix. Need to hear from the Dealership. Do I have any options?
The wheel cover needs to be fixed. Mine did the same thing and I took it back. They replaced for free. You have to be very careful with it when you take off the spare as to not crack the finishing material on the outside. My model (2002) has replaceable screws for the cover. My suggestion is to get one of these replaceable screws and use on your cover. I have looked at both covers and know that they will work. As for the brakes they are right on for needing replacement depending on how you drive. Most should be replaced before 40K.
Not sure of the leasing laws of the state that you live in but you may have an out if they can not fix the window problem to your satisfaction. Is there something like the lemon law for leasing? May need a legal opinion. Worth a try.
It would seem to me that the more expensive the vehicle the more complex it is and I would expect more problems! There are simply more things that can go wrong with a complicated device. This is just a general observation and, no, I am not saying your complaints are without merit.
tidester, host
No: TSB-04-54-002
DATE: February, 2004
MODEL: All
SUBJECT:
AUDIO SPEAKER TROUBLESHOOTING AND
REPLACEMENT GUIDELINES
PURPOSE
This bulletin contains troubleshooting steps for diagnosing various customer complaints relating to the audio system speakers in Mitsubishi vehicles.
BACKGROUND INFORMATION
Symptom/Condition
You may receive customer complaints about abnormal noise from the audio system speakers. These can be described as any of the following:
^ Static
^ Popping
^ Crackle
^ Buzzing
^ Rattle
^ Distorted sound
^ Poor sound quality
^ No sound (speaker inoperative)
As a side note, the check engine light went off after about a week of driving. I guess it was a loose gas cap.
See if a dealer will let you try out a set of BFG AT KO's for a couple of days. You may like the Geolanders a whole lot better then.
Have you tried increasing the tire pressure to something close to the maximum stamped on the tire? Sometimes that will help on the highway. Then, if it rides too hard, keep reducing pressures by, say, 5 psig in increments until it gets too noisy or vibrates too much for you.
Quiter than the stock Geolanders and way better. My dad just put them on his Jeep GC and he loves them. I went with the 6 ply which are a tad larger than stock so the speedometer is off a couple of miles per hour and my Dad went with the standard 4 ply.
Just so you know the OEM tires always are crappy. Even the OEM geolanders and aftermarker geolanders are very different eventhough they seem to be the same tire.
A guy at the tire rack said they cut both tires and the OEM flopped down while the aftermarket stood up on its own. It seems the OEM are cheeper made and have very soft sidewalls.
With the Montero being on the heavy side I thought a 6 ply would be nice and it has been but I would not hesitate to run a 4 ply.
With the $3000 rebate you should be able to dip right under $30,000. I suspect that they'll increase it to $5000 on October 1, maybe even add the loyalty rebate. It's a low-volume vehicle but every Mitsu is right now... Anyway, I'm glad you walked out.
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2003s and 2004s are not that different on the outside but 2001-2002s are.
Word of advice, stay away from Serra Mitsubushi in Birmingham, AL.
Active Skid and Traction Control
Stabilizer Bars
Tire Pressure Monitor
ABS
Dual Front side Air Bags
drive it like a race car. However, the resale
is pretty bad and this is likely the last year for the Monty.
Well, I have another frustrating experience to add. I went to the local Mitsubishi dealership to see what they are offering. They would not back down on price at all. They are trying to sell a 2003 Montero XLS for $28,000 ($38,000 minus some imaginary $10,000 rebate). It a little over 2100 miles on it. They didn't even have any 2004s on the lot. On top of that, they are basically calling me a lie when I told them I left another dealership that has a 2004 Montero Limited for $35K excluding rebate. I recently got a call from the later dealershoip saying they will give me $5500 rebate on the 2004 Montero. That would bring the price down to $29,500 for the 2004 Montero Limited. Does this sound like a deal?
The right front wheel bearing also blew up at about 79k.
The repair shop said that in order for it to go bad like it did, it had to be defective. The only other explanation is that I would have had to hit something very hard, because the tires are so big, they would cushion the impact.
No other problems, except brakes at 17k, tires at 79k and the antenna stopped going up and down.
Drivetrain - Front Wheel Bearings Noisy
No.: TSB-03-26-002
DATE August, 2003
MODEL
2001-03 Montero
I took my truck to "Iffey Lube" in Silver Spring
MD. They cracked the oil pan, and had it towed to Midas to replace the pan. When I got the truck back the transmission was bucking.
I took it to a dealer, they told me my fluid was shot @ 20,000 mi. It cost $210 to get it flushed out. Is this normal or did Midas screw the repair up? Thanks for your advice.