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Surprisingly, Mitsu is in the rebound. 6 months of sustained increase in sales. And this does not even include the Outlander figures for November. I talked to the Internet guy at a dealership near us, and he said their dealership had 15 of these Outlanders when they started shipping the last week of October. Now barely a month after, They only have 4 left. And this became a problem for me because I can't find the color I wanted, the Graphite Gray 4WD XLS with Navi. He said he searched it with a 200 mile radius and he can't find a match. Good thing I'm not too picky with colors and I'd be happy to take a Cool Silver. He found only 2 of these too. It seems the high end models are selling out fast. And I think it should be that way, since it's real value for money.
But since it's thanksgiving today, he might have the car dealer swapped this Friday, the 24th. So if anyone out there located 150-200 miles around Northwest Indiana and Chicago area, and happen to know a 07Outlander Graphite Gray 4wd XLS with Navi for sale, please give a shout here and help me get the color I wanted.
I've been extremely satisfied with the purchase and the truck thus far. The dealer was courteous and we received a fair price.
I know it's only been 3hrs, but the only thing I don't like is the pass front legroom. Everything else I'm in love with. Definately gets 2 thumbs up. :shades:
"Exports to North America rose to 3,514 units, 108. 7 percent of the October 2005 total due to healthy orders of the new Outlander model in the U.S. market."
And it's not all about importing for North America, but exporting too.
"North American production came in at 9,425 units, a 6.9 percent rise year-on-year due to an increase in production of the Galant export model."
And for exports, it would also include the 07 Eclipse and Eclipse Spyder, which are now also being sold in various markets in Asia.
I agree, the Santa Fe is a nice ride. My main concern is long term durability. It is built in a new factory by newly trained employees and only time will tell how well these cars hold up. The Outlander is built in Japan with 100% Japanese parts content which gives me a little more comfort. Of course, no guarantees there, Japanese built cars also have their share of defects.
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Hi dave, I'm interested in the dealership you're talking about. I'm ready to buy this SUV, if I get a good price. I think you're allowed to post the dealership name, city and state. Thanks
This is just another example of Mitsubishi being creative with statistics. Sales for old models always decrease when a new model is coming out--manufacturers are ramping down production of the old model and consumers are holding off on their purchases until the new model arrives. If you look at the current inventory reports in Automotive News, you'll see that Mitsubishi currently has a 140 day supply of Outlanders, which indicates that Outlander sales have been pretty poor lately.
Links would be appreciated. It's easy to say this and that, but we need proof.
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quick background check from your previous posts tells me that you're a not really a Mitsu fan, are you?
http://www.autonews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061113/DATACENTER/61110055/- 1074/FREE&title=U.S.%20car%20and%20light-truck%20inventories,%20as%20of%20Nov.%2- 01
Note that you need to be a current subscriber in order to view the on-line data; otherwise, most libraries carry the hard copy of Automotive News.
Something that you can read on-line about Mitsubishi in today's news:
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/11/28/business/16152426&sec=- business
And you're entirely correct, I'm not a Mitsu fan.
" The loan, which will help fund the development of cars, is being led by Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ, the core bank in the Mitsubishi UFJ Financial Group Inc and is being co-managed by the Mitsubishi UFJ Trust and Banking Corp."
I don't see anything wrong with that. The fact that they can still borrow money is proof these lending institutions believe Mitsubishi will be able to repay them. I think nobody will argue with you if your point is that Mitsu is in financial struggle. A lot of other auto manufacturers are. Mitsu has been restructuring, and so far sales has been up. You can read here (no need to register): http://media.mitsubishicars.com/detail?mid=MIT2006110355293&mime=ASC
MMNA's sales have shown consistent growth over the past six months, the first six months of the business year. Sales are expected to increase significantly in November with the addition of the Outlander, Mitsubishi's all new fuel efficient crossover SUV.
The December figures are 3 days away so let's see how exactly did the Outlander perform.
And to be honest, I don't really care what people say about Mitsu's finances, I'm still getting the 07 Outlander! Same piece of **** we hear from biased auto-reviews, who talks of Mitsu's finances instead of reviewing the car :P So spies and agents paid by other auto companies can get lost, because I'm all fed up by all that peppering of FUD stuff. :P :P
And guess what - Mitsu is borrowing $485M to develop products, Ford is borrowing $18B to close factories (amongst the others). How is that?
2008 Lancer
Price paid was not actually invoice. I paid $28,800 for the car, and after TTL the final price was $30,628. I believe the extra price above invoice was a fair amount since it was not on the dealer's lot and the salesman had to get the car some 70 miles from a distant dealership. At that price it's still $1,478 less than the published TMV price for this trim. And the fact that it's a rarity to find this exact same specs in my area, I cannot complain.
I got the car from South Holland Mitsubishi through Internet sales, and I skipped all the haggling with the price. I talked to only one person, the internet manager and locked on the price before I even went to the dealership. Saved me all the trouble of going through a classic dealing process. Now I can outeverything, everything! :P Haven't got the time to play with all the toys yet, but the good thing is the Bluetooth Handsfree system worked with my Nokia 3650.
Fine hail was falling down on our way home, the road was slick but yes, handling was exceptional with this car. Though I had trouble figuring the auto and manual modes because I just jumped in and drove it home. I have yet to do a thorough manual review to max out all the features. And guess what, I get to pay my first monthly payment on Christmas day, so Christmas came early for me
The 2.5 yr old clunker had gotten a new alternator and battery in July, at 36,900 miles. The US dealer didn't care that the van was 2.5 yrs old, or that I was in the day before for my pre-paid maintenace checkup at 36,000; or that I bought the last 3 vans from them.
It was time to look elsewhere. A new job 35 miles away and having to be on the phone while in the auto, made a smaller auto and bluetooth essential.
To be complete, I test drove the RAV4, the CRV, the Santa Fe and the Outlander. The contoured cockpit of the RAV4 made getting in and out challenging. The CRVs tilt/telescoping steering gave me the most leg room, but the shifter pod rubbed up against my leg. The space in the Santa Fe and Outtie were similar. The Outtie won on price and the bluetooth.
The HORROR - I spent the last week negotiating with 3 dealers. Cherry Hill Tri; D'Ambrogio; Faulkner in Philly. First two are volume dealers and the third could not compete. D'Ambrogio thought they could get me an XLS, tan interior, 4wd and sun/sound. When I got to the dealer, they realized sun/sound comes with leather. Wife HATES leather, out of the question. They suggested if I take one off the lot, they would increase the incentives. They only had 1 XLS with black and 2wd and 1 XLS black fully loaded on the lot. I succumbed to the promise from Cherry, which I had prior to going to D'A that they had exactly what I wanted for the same price. On the way home I called D'A and explained that I was going to Cherry first, and then if it did not work out, I would be back. D'A again sweetned the deal.
I showed up at Cherry at 6:30 PM. While test driving I noticed their new car had 2200 miles on it. When asked the salesman claimed ignorance. He then stated a car is new up to 5000 miles? It was tan, but only 2 wd. He then tried to sell me the car at a much reduced discount then promised on the phone and through email. With that - I walked away.
Drove back to D'A. I called on the way in and told them I wanted the Silver with black XLS, 2wd. As I was tired, I did not want to go through normal car buying experience. Sales dude took care of this. I showed up at the dealer at 8:20. I noticed the car I wanted wasn't in the same place as it was in the afternoon. 5 minutes later the sales dude drove up said he was gassing it up. It was already prepped and ready to go. Signed the paperwork, just me and the sales dude. Out by 9 PM.
Price was $1,000 below invoice for the XLS, black interior, 2wd was $21,981. TTL price kind of useless as I live in Philly and had a trade-in. The tan interior and 4wd would have cost $2000+ more if I wanted to wait 4 weeks. Th extra added incentives to the minivan REALLY added up. Having driven 2wd cars my whole life around Philly, I went with the 2wd.
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I really liked the Outlander, and I was prepared to buy one today, an XLS with Nav, Luxury and Sun&Sound package that the dealer offered at 500 over invoice. But after a test drive I walked away. I had test driven the Outlander twice before, albeit in an LS model. In both cases, there was excessive wind noise coming (I would guess) from the mirrors. The wind noise starts at around 40 mph and gets much worse at 60 mph and above. I did not notice that in the first Outlander I drove but I think it was mainly city driving at even lower speeds. I noticed it in the second Outlander and thought something was wrong with the car. But today, I was prepared to buy the car, looks really nice, has all the features, and the price is right, but again, the wind noise is crazy. I am not picky here, I am coming from a '99 Honda CR-V with 4 cylinder that's quite noisy. I really wasn;'t prepared to shell out $30k for a car with these problems. I am surprised noone ever mentioned this.
Is there something wrong with these two cars I drove or is this a flaw with the Outlander? I think it's OK to hear some wind noise at highway speeds, but when I can hear it clearly (and it's annoying trust me) at 40 mph in town, then something is not right.
Can anyone confirm this? I really like the car otherwise but I don't think I can live with this annoyance.
Is that the cargo area cover? Nope it did not came with that. But I think it's being sold as an accessory.
Nope I didn't notice that in the car I bought. I would surely have as the weather was turning bad the time I drove it home. High winds with fine hail falling.
Internet research sold me to this car. The overall package, all the features it offered and at an attractive price, the Outlander IS it. With regards to interior, I don't think I'll call the beige interior of my Outlander inferior to a Santa Fe. No, I think it complements the black exterior. It's all about personal taste. And people will always differing taste. Stick to the car you LIKE. It could be an Outlander, a CRV, a Santa Fe, etc, get the car you're happy with.
So yes it's a good start for the Outlander, and for Mitsu. I hope that it's a sustained growth for them.
Yes it is. This suck though because it's an $310 accessory and in the original feature list from Mitsu (see below) it was standard on LS and XLS.
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Sorry to dig up this issue, but it's bugging me because the Outlander I bought had the same issue even when locked twice through remote. But, reading from the manual, this is actually a programmable "answerback" function. And I never knew this before. Turns out this car has a lot of techie stuff into it than advertised. You can read the 07 Outlander manual at pages 3-9 to 3-10 on how to set the answerback function of your F.A.S.T. key system. If it has a Navi screen, you can program it from there. And it turns out there are 7 possible configurations!! Will play with this feature when I get back to my car on Monday.
You may want to check few discussions on other forums, where we compared Mitsu to other cars:
-2007 Hyundai Santa Fe from post# 1539,
-and Hyundai Santa Fe vs Rav4 vs CX7 vs Ford Edge from post# 292 and then from post# 328
Thank you for the info. I am still not completely sure which way to go. I like the Santa Fe, but I think I am leaning more toward the Outlander.
It's okay Let's face it, the CR-V has fame. My guess is that a big % of that 20,000+ never had a competitive comparison, and bought the CR-V because it was a Honda.
Just my opinion, but the fact that I had major difficulty getting an XLS 4WD with all 3 factory options, meant that more people are buying the higher end trim. And why not? MMNA offers great APR%, and at the price, that specific trim has the most bang bang for the buck.
I totally agree. I compared mainly the numbers with other brand new and not established compact SUVs. CRV and RAV4 are a distinct category from this stand point. The CRV number was just for reference. I would have not expected the Outlander to beat the CRV or RAV4.
One thing to note, the numbers for CRV have dropped in November to about 16,000. Is the hype slowing down?
Nope, it's not included. I even doublechecked the list of equipments from the windows sticker, it's not there too. I guess they removed it in the final product feature.
They always say "Features and options subject to change without notice". They really mean it. Some of my 2006 fitures were not exactly as web site says.
Not a Minivan... Whatever makes you happy. :P ">