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What state, country are you in? You should try a lemon law attorney. I looked it up on the internet. There are lemon law attorneys in most states in the US. You should try there. Honda will not do anything regarding us loosing our hard earned money. My case was just accepted (2-29-2008) by an attorney here in California. I will post the disposition of my case when it has been decided.
we're meeting with the district representative today (again). Very frustrating and disappoiting that they claim not to hear the noise.
How long will it take for your case to reach a settlement?
Out of curiosity, what does your attorney predict for an outcome? Does Honda replace the vehicle, etc?
good luck!
When you say you are meeting with the district representative, do you mean Honda's rep? Because they are only in it to confuse and or convince you that there is nothing wrong with a new vehicle sounding like it is headed for BIG TROUBLE. The sound is indeed indicative of of bigger trouble on the horizon but they would have you believe it is not. I hope you will keep pressing this issue. Even if I am not successful, at least I will know that my case has been documented. I will keep you posted.
You do have lemon law rights in Florida. I assume you are computer savy since you are on this site. Yahoo search - lemon law florida or call this one 1-800-875-3666 ( I spoke to the receptionist and they are interested in hearing from you). I believe they can assist you with building your case. I was directed to take the van in for repair a minimum of 4 times before they would accept my case. I even had to turn to a second attorney after the first seemed disinterested (stopped returning my calls). I hope others will also contact a lemon law attorney. Please do not give up. We deserve the vehicle promised to us by Honda. Please keep posting as we are not the only ones suffering through this.
I kept searching and found a solution for the problem (happy about that). I discovered another site, and one of the things it said was, "Make sure there are no vacuum leaks. You will hear an abnormal hissing sound when engine is idling."
I put the hood up and listened to the engine while it revved up and down... I heard the hissing noise. I found that at the back/center of the engine, a large vacuum hose that comes from what looks like a brake booster, the cylinder about 5 inches in diameter and mounted to the upper right area of the firewall. This vacuum hose at the point where it mounted to the back of the engine was very loose... not the hose itself, but the surrounding mettle housing that mounted the hose to the back of the engine. I could feel a screw (10 mm) that was loose, so I grabbed my socket wrench, put the 10mm socket on and tightened the thing up. I started the van back up and it sounded perfect and the hissing noise was gone. No more up and down engine speed at idle.
In case this didn't help with your problem... here is the link that lead me to my conclusion:
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Honda-Repair-814/2008/2/1991-Honda-Accord-Air.htm
Jason
Our Odyssey currently has 7,200 miles on it. The power steering pump was replaced at 5,000. The same issue is happening with noise after the car has had a chance to warm up. Another steering pump is probably needed. The main issue that the dealer has not been able to diagnose is the harsh downshifts at approxiamtely 40 mph and 15-20 mph. I am assuming this is from 3rd to 2nd and 2nd to 1st. During these shifts, the rpm would jump up approximately 300-400 rpm. It happens about 85% of the time and the jump in rpm varies. Any ideas? Also, at 50 mph there is vibration and feels like the car is having issues picking gears. I was told by the dealer it is the overdrive point???? Any help would be appreciated.
Also, just drove our 2004 mazda mpv this evening and that car drives like a charm compared to the odyssey that cost us 3 times as much.
constantly race between 750 and 1000 rpm in drive gear when stopped at traffic light. I dont know what happen, I already made appoint with dealer on Apr 5, 08. Is this problem under warranty considering the van has only 26K miles?
I need help desperately. I am thinking trading it in for Toyota Sienna. Can anyone give me a good tip how fix this problem?
we always get the same answer from the service manager (that it's just mechanical noise). funny thing is, we drove a courtesy van and it made the same noise!
we plan to meet with the district service manager (again), so will keep you posted with the outcome
The closest I can describe the sound is like the sound helicopter off in the distance.
Opening the hood, I could almost replicate the sound by tapping on the plastic engine shroud with my fingertips (not my nails).
The sound occurs whether standing still or moving, and whether the fan is running or not. It speeds up with light revs. Once you get 'under way,' the sound disappears and the car ran effortlessly and quietly for the 300 mile return trip home.
Took it into the dealer this morning. They heard it, want to take it in an look it over, but they admit they are unfamilier with the noise.
Car has 38,000 miles -- just out of warranty -- This car has been driven gently by my wife all its life and has been meticulously maintained at the dealer.
Anybody with a similar noise?
I told him that I had blogged with several people in the same boat, and he still wouldnt admit that there is a problem with the 07 odyssey.
I also told him that I am worried about the engine failing once the 36k mile warranty was up. He then said that he would double my warranty and make it good for 75k miles. He knows there is a problem, but he wont come clean. Why would he I guess. He also told me that his factory rep will be in next month, and he would let me talk to him, and "maybe he could do something more for me".
I am not holding my breath, but I would love to talk to him.
good luck!
Get ready a digital camera and try to take photo of instrument panel RPM & in PARK to showing to the tech that really happened.
Bizzare. I am hoping Honda does good and stands by their product. Initial dealer reaction is it is not covered by the warranty. Looks like I need to do a lot of work. Can anyone help steer me on how to deal with this?
The only "clue" I have is that the fuel gauge seems to vary a bit after I restart the engine.
I notice that whenever the speed is at 40 ~ 50 mph the engine started to making noises and causing vibration.
My husband said it's probably because it was switching gears at that time. But I'm concern about the engine is having some problem. I don't know whether it is normal or it will eventually go away after a while.
Can any expert here give me some advice please?
after me taking it to the dealer several times, they finally recognized that there was a problem. They replaced the "knock sensor" and it seemed to stop, but I think I still hear it at times.
the octane of fuel doesnt matter either.
Now, I am starting to feel the transmission shudder.
I wish I had stuck with the dodge product that we had before this Honda.
The honda is allot nicer inside but overall, I am not happy with it.
the constant haggling with the dealer makes me crazy!
there is a service bulletin out there ofr the knock sensor. you can prob. find it on google.
good luck!
I visited 3 different dealers, 5 times.
The first answer from Honda America was that I need to drive until 5,000 miles then it will disappear.
The second answer from Honda Dist. Mechanic was that it is normal.
The third answer from Honda Tech. Line was that it is a new issue. They asked a dealer to take a snapshot of my car and another brand-new Odyssey. After that they said they need to investigate more.
In three weeks, Honda gave me a call and asked me to bring my car to a dealer. They wanted to try several different ways.
Still my car is in a shop now.
I bought my car on April 22, 2009, but my car was in a shop for 17 days during 4 attempts to fix the problem.
They adjusted an engine mount, a transmission mount, and an exhaust system.
Now they are checking a transmission torque convertor, a transmission speed sensor, etc,..
One of service managers said he tried to fix this problem on 2005 Odyssey with a mileage of around 50,000 last year, but he couldn't.
The problem happened at the speed of 45-55 MPH with a RPM of 1400-1500.
It is a little bit better if it is warm, over 70 F.
A friend of mine, who is a mechanic with over 20 year experience, said Honda may or may not know this problem, but they don't have the process to solve this problem. He also told me that if the problem remains after 3 visits to a dealer to fix the problem, I need to return the car.
If yes, what's the result?
Product Update: Lock-Up Clutch Judders Between 20–45 MPH
http://www.in.honda.com/Rjanisis/pubs/SB/A09-053.PDF
VEHICLES AFFECTED
2007–08 Odyssey – ALL
2009 Odyssey
LX, EX:
Production Line 1 –
FromVIN 5FNRL3...9B000351
thru 5FNRL3...9B056551
Production Line 2 –
FromVIN 5FNRL3...9B400201
thru 5FNRL3...9B410343
EX-L, Touring:
Production Line 1 –
FromVIN 5FNRL3...9B000201
thru 5FNRL3...9B050869
Production Line 2 –
FromVIN 5FNRL3...9B400321
thru 5FNRL3...9B405632
to dealer, they said there's nothing wrong with it. Dealer is useless.
I took it my mechanist and he changed Idle Air control (IAC) valve. I bought Iac at $125.00 from Honda dealer and mechanist charged me $40.00 for installation. Eng
rev is gone. No more rev up or down.
I suggest you take your car to your mechanist. Hopefully
u get the same result. Good luck
Tri
Has anyone had luck getting Honda to fix this?
What is the next step?
Replacing the torque converter?
How can I do that?
I had my insurance pay for the damages it is back together but I think it needs shifting adjusted.
If more people have this issue maybe we can get Honda to fix it. good luck
If you wanted a accord for road trips, wouldn't you have bought an accord?
Anybody have any thoughts or insight?
They replaced the tork conv. and that went away.
The ping however, it has been in and out a half dozen times. replaced the knock sensor............. it still pings. whatever........