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What in the world...
I wouldn't exclude it because it's not a sedan, but it's up to you. There's only one discussion on it right now, and that's in Future Vehicles.
But what about the MKZ? Is that a factory tuned sedan? If so, what is the base model?
Please add the Subaru Impreza WRX STI and the Chrsyler 300C STR8.
I also agree that the MKZ doesn't belong here. It's a luxury sedan. It's in the same league as the Lexus ES350. It just has AWD.
If we're going to include the Audi S6, then we can include the Audi RS4, the BMW M5, the Mercedes E55 AMG, the Jaguar S-Type R and the Cadillac STS-V. Please add the above or state any objections as to why they shouldn't be included.
As well the GT500 Cobra, and the Z06 Vette.
Let's just see if we can't "tear the roof off this mother" and talk about all things related to the English language.
Can we add a place to post recipes? My Pot roast is to die for.
I would add to the list of the following models:
Honda Civic Si
Mitsubishi Gallant Raliart
Audi S8
All Chevy's SS models
All Dodge's SRT models
Mazda Mazdaspeed 3
Mazda Mazdaspeed 6
All MB's AMG sedans
That's not to say other vehicles can't be included, they just won't be listed at the top. And that's unfortunate, because what it means is if someone searches on a vehicle not listed at the top, this discussion will not turn up.
Rocky
P.S. You can include the R8 in the discussion because it sure looks "factory tuned" to me.
I've read on a few websites about a SVT tuned MKZ in the pipeline for 09'. It suppose to have a Twin Turbo engine from the MKS and rumored to be AWD only to counter it's FWD drive train. I guess when I was filling out the category's I thought about it. So it's 2-3 years away and if you don't want to talk about it until it gets here that's fine also. We have plenty of others that currently exist and/or will be out next year or so to talk about
Rocky
"Performance Oriented Factory Tuner Automobiles"
I just wanted to keep the focus on the "Factory Tuner" side.
I agree the SVT MKZ, isn't out yet and can lay in the woods for now. It's still a couple of years away.
You can feel free to talk about the SRT's, RS-4's, S6's, STS-V, just as long as they are performance enhanced at the factory.
Thanx,
Rocky
If you guys want 2-doors to be included I don't care. I just ask that the forum be focused on "factory tuned" and was at first trying to narrow it down to sedans. Obviously y'all have objected and over ruled me which is okay with me ! :P
Rocky
Whatever floats your boat as long as it's a "factory tuned" roast :P
Rocky
Mitsubishi Gallant Raliart- Ummmm....What makes it a factory tuned car ???? I don't know much about it honestly ?
Audi S8-Yes
All Chevy's SS models- a HHR SS is more trim than engine isn't it ? But yeah I suppose Chevy SS could be included.
What makes a factory tuned car IMHO is suspension, engine, brake, and in some cases interior upgrades.
All Dodge's SRT models-Yes
Mazda Mazdaspeed 3->yes
Mazda Mazdaspeed 6->yes
All MB's AMG sedans-> Yes
Rocky
Does that make you happy
I will have to look for the SVT MKZ article I read somewhere on the net !!!!
Rocky
Have fun.
Thanx,
Rocky
Who's going to win this tuner battle and why ????
Who wins ? powertrain ? technology ? reliabilty, etc ?
Which car performs better on the track ? which car performs better on highway? Which car handles better, and can you prove it ? Which car wins the stop-light races ????
Which car gets the chic's (styling) :shades:
Rocky
Who's going to win this tuner battle and why
Historically speaking, the STi is always "purer" than the Evo without all the technology nannies. On the other hand, from numerous comparisons (especially the top gear), driving Evo is like playing a video game, one can drive it as aggressive as possible but the computer will sort everything out. To me I think it's a toss up. If you want full control, go with STi; a PS3/Xbox360 on wheels, then Evo.
Which car gets the chic's (styling)
Neither will get the "chicks" IMO (well, at least not my kind of chicks). The styling for both cars are too "ricey" for my taste so I would never consider these in any given time of my life.
The chick-magnets in this group of cars are the M3 and CTS-V. Those 2 are aggressive in a subtle way but yet elegant. IS-F is close but lacks the "subtle" and "elegant" characteristics in my opinion (also too ricey). I think a regular IS body with a mild all around side-skirt, lower the suspension, 19" rims, fender vent like the M3's and the stacked quad-pipe will be better looking than the current IS-F. AMGs wouldn't be bad choices either if you are into 40-plus chicks (that's IMO of course). :P
PS, If I offended any female members with this post I am sorry. Y'all can be angry at Rocky because he started it...
Ummmm, I was hoping you would generalize on the chic part :P
My mother is in her late 40's and likes the TL Type-S, Infiniti G35, Lexus IS 350, and loves the CTS-V
Rocky
Sorry, j/k, can't resist
Wow........talk about car porn.
Rocky, even the die hard GM lover has to admit the sound of this car is like crack cocaine.
Rocky
Rocky
Mom, likes GM, cars the best but does like some styles from import brands. Her favorite car ever was the 2002' Pontiac Trans-Am WS-6
Rocky
We're focusing on the cars themselves here instead of the manufacturers.
Rocky
Rocky
Rocky
How bout the next Subuaru WRX STI ????? When is that coming out ????
Rocky
Rocky
http://www.taxicabs.com/autoshow/chicago2007/Lexus/IS-F/index.html. Just click the photo to move to the next one.
I put a deposit on this car, can't wait to get it!
Enjoy.
Dave
Rocky
Rocky
490 hp, 500hp, ?
Either way it will be quite fast......
Rocky
Rocky
Rocky
I see your point, especially if you have wife, kids and the dog.
Rocky
http://www.taxicabs.com/autoshow/chicago2007/Lexus/IS-F/video/
Enjoy,
Dave
Here are some photos of the Audi R8, a hot 420 HP six speed, loaded w/ carbon fiber and other cool things (including the rear engine V8).
Is that a rear engine or mid engine?
You can view the photos at http://www.taxicabs.com/autoshow/chicago2007/Audi/R8/
The first 5 photos are lower quality, so I went back to the Auto show with a new camera, and took 15 more photos. Just click on the photo of the R8 to move to the next photo.
Enjoy,
Dave