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How about they just list their data on each car with the number of questionnaires received for each model? That would be very clear. Instead, through the years, they have changed their data reporting appearance to make it appear that there are meaningful differences when there aren't. But that perpetuates their thinking and makes people believe CR has something meaningful in differences.
Wouldn't you rather have them report their information with full transparency?
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Yes, I own one with 72k miles. Nissan extending the bumper to bumper to 5 yr/60k miles was a big help.
I think I like my minivan better now since I paid it off 3 months ago. :shades:
Also,I have 04 used Quest which I bought 3 months ago.Knew all it`s problems.But needed a minivan and had got a real heck of a deal on it.A screaming bargain!So went ahead.
But a new Quest??Absolutely no way...No comparison to Ody/Sienna,,,not even remotely close!!
I agree i would not buy another Quest. We'll ride this one to 100k miles. We'll definitely need another minivan with 3 kids. Ody/Sienna will be top on the list. Of course, never know what might be on the market in 3 years.
The hungriest car company in the planet at the moment
Seems I will have to buy a VW Jetta TDI until Hyundai gets the message that VW is busy selling their TDI's as fast as the trucks can deliver them.
All things considered I would guess a Hyundai TDI would be a home run hit for them.
CR is so reliable and accurate..And Hyundai has made terrific strides.You have got to hand it to them.From the ridiculed cars of the 90`s to the top of the pack challenging Toyota and Honda--well ,that takes some doing.
CR`s info was so accurate for each vehicle owned--It was like a science.U could pinpoint a problem so correctly.
Just MHO.
Brake dust is equivalent to engine failure on their survey and their chief acknowledges this brazenly :confuse: Go Figure !! No wonder brands like LandRover try to trumpet this stupid rating system and claim their vehicles are more reliable. And it also shows how Hyundai is really catching up to Honda/Toyota which as a buyer is a good thing for me. :shades:
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Mods,please feel free to move this to a different thread if it`s more relevant there.
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CR is valuable, accurate, honest, and unbiased. JD is an advertisement bought, paid, and controlled by the manufacturers. It is completely rigged, and only looks at short term quality.
All those numbers mean what years you have a better CHANCE of buying a used vehicle that won't have problems! Doesn't mean you won't or that you won't be the unlucky one that gets a used car from that year that is in the shop all the time either!
What really bothers me is, people come on this thread and others on edmunds, trash talking CR about how, oh there ratings and recommendations were completely wrong and I got a bad car when they said it should be good and CR is crappy, wrong, biased, etc etc!
Get a clue people, a recommendation is a guess or estimate of the avg by CR , it is not a certainty for no problems and people forget this and then whine and throw fits when things go wrong. People's expectations are too high! Your always taking a chance when buying a used car, no matter what CR or anyone else says!
If someone was selling junk, they got a very poor review. I think this is what angers the CR haters. They don't hold back.
"About two-thirds of the problems in this year’s IQS are what Power calls design problems — anything from poor voice recognition to rough-shifting transmissions and bad fuel economy. Power is reworking its long-term dependability study of three-year-old cars to reflect the same factors.
“These are things the consumer cares about,” Sargent said. Vehicles “breaking down is not the differentiator anymore. Controls, voice recognition, navigation systems and using the phone are the things that either please customers or drive them nuts.”
Mark Phelan: Do good auto quality scores produce sales and profits? (Detroit Free Press)