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it turns out I have a bad connector that's at the end of the wire harness to the blower motor located under the passenger side dash/glovebox area. Mopar makes a repair kit for around $16.00!! Finally, after weeks of no heat and the temps here have been in the teens.......I can now move the wire and keep the heater blowing strong until I get the fix. Glad I didn't go to a shop.
$400 you pair for repair of the heater doors at an independant garage or the $1,200 you would pay at the dealership and any other money you can scrape up and buy a used Highlander. You will not be sorry. This spring my 2003 that looks like new and I just spent over $1,000 on it for brakes all around, A/C condenser, and 3 new heater doors( I had the hinge breaking problem) plus I just spent 500 dollars for new Wranger tires and trade it in on a Highlander. I should run it out a while until I feel I recoup some of that 1500 or 1600 dollars I just spent but instead I am going to chaulk that expense up to a bad Jeep experience. Good luck but I really encourage you to get rid of it. It is going to cost you over and over again.
Kevan ellach2@yahoo.co.uk
I have a 99 GC Ltd with 42,000 miles, with AZC dual control HVAC. Had the blend doors replaced last spring, due to blowing passenger cold air all the time.
Now the AZC doesn't regulate the temperature consistently. Starting out on a cold day, it pumps hot air unless I set the control on "Lo". Any setting above that is too warm, both sides. After a while, it slowly starts to change (cool), and I have to slowly increase the temp setting to maintain a comfy cabin temperature. If I suddenly slow down from hiway speed, it momentarily goes cold. Its really hard to describe, but seems the AZC has a mind of its own, and altho I can control it, its certainly not "automatic".. Any ideas???
Thanks.
SS
along with a new Accumulator and a modified fixed orifice tube. Flushed the system and replaced the oil in the compressor. On dismantling of the evaporator box i found that the drivers side blend door hinge was broken / only made of plastic.
The blend door was replaced and the A/C componentry was reassembled.
System works perfectly except on quite humid days whilst the A/C system is
cycled, the passenger floor [ being LH side here in Aust.] becomes moist and after a week or so the floor becomes saturated. Drain tube is not blocked, no cracks in evaporator box. All i can see is that when the temp. controls are turned down to low and operated for quite sometime, that condensation builds up on the outside of the evaporator box above the footwell. I have put anti-condensation wrap on the outside of the box hoping that this may result in a cure??? Anyone heard of this before? From the articles i have read in this Forum it seems most of you guys suffer from heating problems more so than cooling problems? No snow here in Queensland... Thanks all...
Here is some info regarding your a/c problem from: http://wjjeeps.com/tsb_list.htm#HEATING
TSB 240699A - CONDENSATION ON EXTERIOR OF HEATER HOUSING
Date: 12/17/99
Model year(s): 1999-2000
Description: Condensation may form on the exterior of the heater A/C housing and drip on the floor.
Details: This bulletin involves installing a foam insulator to the heater A/C housing.
Installation diagram.
Parts required:
05015245AA Self adhesive foam
Hope this helps! I need to replace blend doors too - did you use genuine parts or the "Heater Treater" that other people (from the US) are referring to on these forums?
Thanks
EG
The blend doors were sourced 2nd hand. The particular Jeep dealership we use are limited to having correct information and are not up to scratch i feel with there parts interpreting. Good bunch of guys, but limited experience. Hence the 2nd hand parts were ordered. BIG job. But all seems good now. I actually put condensation tape on the bottom of the evaporator box and it seems to have cured the problem. Thanks for your reply. Happy to help you if i can also...
to remove take off wiper arems remove push nuts that hold the cowl cover in place and then you can clean the drain holes
I'm a newby here, but I was wondering if anyone has access to the Flate Rate times that are "supposed" to be used by Jeep dealers for repairs. I have an '01 JGC and it does need some work done to it, but the dealer has come back with an absurd estimate i.e. 1 hour labour for battery replacement, 1 hour labour for bonnet shocks, 4 hours for water pump, 1 hour for thermostat, 4 hours for engine mount and and and...
Surely these times overlap, and are they obliged to stick to Flat Rate times for retail work as they are dealers, or can they do what they like because it is retail?
I live in Dubai, so if the answer is "tuff [non-permissible content removed]" I wouldn't be surprised, but it would be interesting to know.
I do also have an HVAC problem and am pretty sure that it's due to broken doors, and the dealer wants to charge 9 hours labour to investigate, but makes no promises...
Fun stuff!!
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
I know they have to make money, and I can understand a formula of taking the warranty time in the Flat Rate Manual and applying 35% or whatever, but these guys just seem to be sucking it out of fresh air!!
The hourly rates are typical dealer rates here in Dubai at AED200/hr, which is about US$55/hr. Cheaper than the UK, but technicians here aren't the same standard and neither are the supervisors - e.g. 9 hours investigation without rectification!!
Is it very Humid there in Florida? As in what percentage of humidity. I am from Australia. If you could give me a bit more info, i would be only to glad to share what info i can.
for a 50 Hour week. Just thought i'd throw that in. Happy to help if i can with any of your questions.
I can answer that one! Yes, it is very humid in Florida. So much so that many places seem to have a perpetual musty odor about them.
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
I understand the time thing - especially for retail work, but my vehicle was already in for a 120K svs, that they charged US$410 for... They are a backbone dealership, so arranging parts over the phone etc is nil, as they shold hold stuff like that in stock. The job card was already made out for the service, all they had to do was add a line for defects, which they did to get the engine mounts etc changed. My point was, are they tearing the ring out of it, or is it legit, and is there an established "code of (charge) conduct" that they have to kind of abide by??
I ask these questions here in the hope of getting balanced inputs, (agreeable or disagreeable), as there is no such thing as "Consumer Rights" in Dubai - unless you are a local Emarati and use some local clout.
The 9 hour investigation was for them to remove the dash board and get access to the blend doors/evap unit/expansion valve... with no promise of rectification...
And when I queried what they would do, should they find the blend doors broken, the actuators fried etc - they said they would prepare a quote to repair it (fair enough) and then order spares from the US as they aren't carried by the dealer network here... So 9 hours later, all paid for - you then get a repair bill as well!! "How long would it take if all spare were in stock??" I asked..... "About a week" was the reply...
And they claim technician efficiency is at 120%... no wonder when they charge that kind of labour on retail work
They took it upon themselves to add a fluoro dye to check the a/c system for leaks, and said that they topped up the gas as it was "a bit" low. This was "just something extra" they thought they would do, as the technician said the a/c didn't feel like it was cooling properly. I had already told their Service Advisor that I had accessed the fault codes on the HVAC control panel and had got 3 codes all relating to blend door actuator faults - a common problem I have learnt recently on '01 GCL. I have never had a cooling problem on this vehicle in the 2.5 years I have had it - just airflow probs due to doors not moving correctly. The air has always been cold, but just not that much of it sometimes - other time, it's relatively OK.
Long story short, I took the car home - parked it over the weekend, drove it to work after the weekend with no a/c - just nice hot, Dubai temperature air. Got the car home in the evening, lifted the hood and witnessed the compress short cycling - i.e. no or very little gas in the system. Took it back to Jeep - they had the car for 5 hours and in the end, said they couldn't find the leak, so they needed to remove the dash and replace the evap unit. I asked if they couldn't find the leak, how did they know it was the evap unit that failed... They said they could't find dye anywhere in the engine compartment. When I asked if they had probed the cabin vents with a sniffer they replied "We don't have one." And this is a dealership moving about 30 cars a day through their service center!!
Longer story short, I got hold of their Service Manager and he agreed that something was a fault, they were the last to touch the working system and now it doesn't work, so they have agreed (after some badgering...) to replace the evap unit (and in the process fit the upgraded blend doors) and reassemble at parts cost plus 10% and labour free.
It was a good outcome considering that the parts cost alone will be about US$380, and the charge if labour was billed would be US$705.
How can a dealership carry out diagnosis without the most basic (and I think) most essential tool in dealing with a/c systems??!! It just beggars belief!!
Any tools salesmen want to get stuck in and make a buck or two...??
Thanx
Thanks,
cost was high and this past weekend was the first time I used the a/c since the rapairs ----driver side only cool air passenger side warm air ---nice since it was a record breaking weekend for heat in L A this past weekend ---- dealer is playing dumb any advice
Can anyone tell me is there a socket to plug in trailer electrics on my 2003 JGC Deisel ?
Regards Kevan UK