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I think the Escape has other things going for it, especially value of equipment you get, along with a sophisticated AWD system.
Compared to CRV:
1. V6 engine,
2. Dash didn't come from a mini-van
3. Can open hatch glass seperately
4. back seats fold flat
5. Light Truck tires on XLT and Limited for better bad weather performance.
6. 2nd row provides real leg and head room for 2 adults.
Overall I think the Escape is about equal to the CRV but for the 4 cylinder being the only engine available on the CRV
Compared to RAV4
The RAV is a disaster of packaging and totally unsuited to the US market. All Toyota did was bring over a home market vehicle with little or no concessions to your requirements.
1. 2nd row leg room is totally lacking. Putting adults in the 3rd row would be concidered torture under international law.
2. The back hatch. This is the part that completely ruins this vehicle. Why in the year 2007 Toyota forces you to move the weight of the spare tire every time you wanted to get into the back is an example of the contempt they have for Americans. Not to mention you can't even open if you are paralle parked. It will stike the car behind you and block your acces from the curb because it opens to the right (thats ok in a left drive country like Japan.)
3. Way 2 expensive for what you get.
Compared to Nissan Rogue.
1. Escape has better ride and isolation
2. Escape has a wider track
3. V6 although with the Rogues CVT its not missed as much as it is with the CRV.
Conclusion. Ford considers the Escape to be an SUV and it gets SUV like fuel economy. The Ford Edge gets the same but is a bigger vehicle.
Mark.
I agree 100%. An old powertrain is a proven powertrain. I also like all of the luxury items available on the Escape.
Since the mileage is about the same, I think we will get the AWD.
BTW does the "trailer tow" package really get you a trans cooler?
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Unfortunately, with the weather we get in rural Canada, winter blades are pretty much a necessity.
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I have found that silblade.com sell flexblade GVM technology, but they don't list the 2008 Escape. I sent them an email but no reply yet.
Ford tells me to bring in my Escape to have checked and they might have to redesign to wipers.( yeh that's going to happen)
Volvo also have this conector type.
If someone knows where to buy Silblade wipers in Canada let me know.
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For 2008 the Trans cooler is STANDARD! (about time). So if you don't tow, save your $300.
Mark.
My Freestyle has 70k on it, the mpg is going down, the price of gas is going up, and I'm being guilt-tripped into downsizing. I know the hybrids don't save money in the end, but still, I'm interested. It says on the brochure that it has a CVT tranny--the same one that is in my Freestyle? I love that transmission and haven't had a moment's worry with it. I had heard that Ford was discontinuing it on the Freestyle (which they did on the 500s/Taurus X). So, is this the same tranny?
And is there a special forum for the Escape hybrid?
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You bet! Here they are: Ford Escape Hybrid
tidester, host
SUVs and Smart Shopper
The eCVT in the Hybrid uses a planatary gear set as opposed to the belt and pulley system in the Freestyle. The eCVT is similar to that used in the Prius not exactly the same though. It is built in the same Aisen factory in Japan that builds the Prius Trans.
If you keep your Escape Hybrid for 5 years, and you drive at least 15,000 miles per year you will. break even in fuel economy savings around the 60k mark. This assumes you able to take the full available tax credit and do most of your driving around town. It also assumes that you would have purchased a conventional gas Escape if you didn't buy the hybrid.
For about 10k less, you can get a Ford Focus which about as much passanger room. You can buy a lot of gas for $10k.
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The GOOD NEWS is that Ford make this component STANDARD on the 2008 model and its bigger! Notwithstanding same, stay tuned. by 2010, the Escape should be using the 3.5L Duratec and the 6F trans.
Mark
I am also amazed on the features that are offered on this affordable SUV. I got the Sirius Sat and moon roof. Nice incentives too!
Siliblade in the states had one out for testing but it still isn't perfected, but they will keep working on it they said.Since there is no aftermarket blades for the 08 I am sure they will get it perfected.Its not just the 08 escape, its also Volvo, rangerover and this technology will end up on most of the new vehicles.Basically Ford Canada said..."keep your heat up high and get good washer fluid".Not what we want to hear Ford Canada!
I also wonder if there is an available extended warranty and is it worth it?
Neal
base model 4wd. I consider buying it if the mileage was better. The hybrid is probably $3k or $4k more so I probably won't buy one. It was fine for a rental though.
cathy
new ones will have a V-6 with 30 more horsepower and a SIX speed transmission as well as available sync. I would not be surpirzed if it would outrun a 3.5 Edge at 264 hp!
If you want a deal they are giving away the 08s, but I will wait for the '09 Limited AWD
What is becoming extremely frustrating is that a special bolt is required to mount the cooler, and this bolt is unavailable at any dealer within more than 100 miles of my location. It's on emergency order as Ford is calling it a "high demand part". But, they cannot give me any inkling of a delivery date. I'm really disappointed in Ford that they wouldn't be doing a better job of ensuring that stock exists for a "high demand part" with a related TSB.
Are there any creative solutions to this, which would allow me to get my '08 Escape back on the road sooner rather than later? I really don't know if it will take days, weeks or months to get this very valuable bolt. I've read a few postings from other '08 owners, who have had the same issue. Thanks!
I really dont know if the escape is the vehicule I should get to replace my Grand Caravan 2006 equipped with a real towing package !!
The big news is that the 2.5 I4 is available with the 6speed auto on all trim levels, all the way to the Limited! This info was dated 3-17-08.
P.S. The 3.0 V6 is rated at 240hp, not the 230hp previously stated. Sounds like a Hot Rod to me.
Drum brakes still on rear, thogh:-(
Less maintenance , components like the shoes have a much longer life, no dust on the wheel, better and simplier hand brake sytem , ok the are not cool but the are reliable and cheap to maintain.
Tell me what the disc brake are giving me that the drum brake aren't ? Trouble ? you bet !!
I bought an XLT 4WD V6 model in early June. 3 times since then, I have gotten into the truck, put the key into the ignition and turned it to start it. Everything comes on - lights, radio, windows, etc - except the engine does not turn over. It makes no clicking noises or any other indication that I'm attempting to start the vehicle. I did try to jump start it the first time it happened, though I knew it was unlikely a battery problem since everything but the engine worked fine when I tried to start it. The first time this happened I'd been driving it around for an hour or two, then parked for a few hours, and it would not start for nearly 30 minutes. The second 2 times this happened I was in my driveway and it would not start for over 4 hours. But when I went back to it several hours later it started just fine as though nothing was wrong. Each time car was in park. Once I had the door open.
Dealer is giving me the run-around, saying that because they can't reproduce the problem they won't fix anything, and aren't authorized to replace any parts they can't prove are broken. Talked to a mechanic friend of mine who suggested they look at the parking switch (that tells the car it's in park) and the ignition switch - service desk lady is now talking to service manager about my suggestions, though she was clear that she was reluctant to ask them to spend any more time on my truck (might have implied it was a waste of their time, I tried nicely to explain that spending a few hours of their work was worth avoiding the possibility of me being stranded somewhere).
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I recall some posts last year about winter wipers on 2008 Escapes, and I think the outcome was that nothing was available. Call me naive, but I thought I'd check in to see if Ford or the aftermarket had come up with anything. I'd still like to have something for the winter, and continue to be dismayed that this is the first vehicle I've ever had where winter wipers were not available. I'm also curious to know if the 2009's kept the same wiper connector, or did Ford see the error in their ways? Thanks.
A TSB (Technical Service Bulletin) is pretty much the same thing as a recall, in which they are both recorded and known problems and a repair bulletin has been issued to fix the problem. The only difference is that a recall is generally a safety issue in which the problem can result in injury and/or death if not fixed and it is always covered by the manufacturer without a cost to the consumer, basically to cover their a$$es and not get sued. A TSB on the other hand is a bulletin to fix a known problem and depending on your mileage it may be covered under warranty or not. A TSB will most likely be covered by the manufacter if your vehicle is still under the warranty period, but if your not then the expense is on the consumer. TSB's also cover the manufacturer's a$$es in which it may be harder to sue the manufacturer because there was a TSB and the consumer failed or refused to fix the problem. Antoninb is correct, there are far more TSBs then recalls, so whenever an issue arises be sure to look them up, you are very likely to find one that pertains to your specific issue.
You, Your Vehicle and the Technical Service Bulletin (TSB)
George
Dealer asking $10K
Under Blue Book value. Manual.
Suggestions? Advice?
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