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I have a 2003 lincoln nav with air ride suspension. I had an intermittent "check suspension" light coming on. The last time I drove it, I pulled in to the driveway and saw the front pass side wheel well all the way down on top of my tire (22" wheel). I had my wife get in, turn ignition on with door closed, and watched as it tried to raise that side. I could immediately see weather type cracks in the bottom of the boot and could hear air escaping from the cracks (especially when i pressed on the side of the airbag.
So I ordered a popular after-market airbag (arnott) online and it arrived. I immediately noticed that the solenoid fits a bit looser in this unit, but it looks to be okay. I dissembled the airbag / reassembled / and replaced all of the O-rings on the solenoid and air bag assembly.
As soon as the car starts to air up now, I hear a gasp of air come from somewhere. The car lowers again.. The pump immediately keeps pumping and as soon as it gets to the same pressure again, I hear the air escape. This is happening over and over and the car will not rise. I was told that the air may be coming from the "end cap" where it mounts to the underside of the car. The tech told me these end caps warp and may have to be replaced also....
Has anyone else had this experience when they replaced their air bags? I can't seem to figure out why the air is escaping at what seems like the same point as it raises. I even traded solenoids with the drivers side and have the same condition.... Any ideas? Thanks!!!!
"Posters Question: 2003 Lincoln Navigator air suspension leaks, right rear area, and SUV bottoms after being out when in temperatures 32 F and will not function until in temp. 70 F. In warm temp no problems. Ford dealer replaced seals and rebuilt air bags.
Already Tried:
suspension seals and bags replaced by Ford dealer because this suspension issue recurs initially temp did not affect, it was intermitant, after rebuild I had the SUV in the mountains, not problems going there, but after being out in temp 30 degrees, suspension right rear, I could hear an air leak, 10 minutes later no lift to the car and the car bottom out until I got off the mountain to temp greater then 60 F
ANSWER - the spring cap is the sealing surface for the upper seals, and when the vehicle gets enough miles on it the surface wears enough to allow a leak, if the springs are taken off the car and checked in a tank of water, they will not leak, but with the weight of the truck on them they leak, I have replaced a bunch of these and when all the other parts have been replaced and the truck still drops, you can be assured that the spring caps are worn.
As the weather gets colder, the metal slightly shrinks and allows the air to leak past the seal, even if the seals are new, so I highly recommend replacing the spring cap."
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and yes i have checked all the fuses. any help would be greatly appreciated
contact me here or at celviro@yahoo.com , this car rental thing is getting very expensive.
I've googled around but haven't had much success so far. It's hard to tell if some of the stock line you can buy is the same as that in the Gator (about 3/8" O.D. with an internal white core tube that has an I.D. of about 1/8").
As a side note, if your compressor fries, you can still reboost your suspension until a repair is made. After you extract the old compressor (or if you can pull the air lines off of it), turn your car to the run position (without starting). After a short time you'll hear some relays click for the suspension. Now, using a standard shop air compressor, blow air into the correct line (for me, the top line is for the rear) until the rear end rises. Quickly turn off the car ignition and then the air suspension bypass switch (having a helper is nice!). The latter will keep the system from purging the air you blew into it, and you'll have a decent ride back
you sure your compressor is fried? i thought mine was too ran out and bought another compressor and that did'nt work, till i found out it was a relay.:-()
i spent $300+ for a compressor i did not need. make sure all your fuses are good first, if you already have please dis-regaurd.
Anyone have tips on sourcing some air line?
BTW - I am on day 2 with the compressor removed and the rear bags are still holding the air I injected from my shop compressor. At least the urgency to replace has been diminished.
I have received many Emails since I first Posted my email for help.*********
Here is a LINK to the 2003 and UP model year Suspension Service Manual
Bronconvict's 2003+ Susp. Svc. Manual
Hope it all Helps as I have helped as many people as I could. If the link doesn't work
please reply..... Please share with everyone..
The front lower sensor arm on both the left and right sides periodically fall off, and that side of the vehicle becomes lower (and in some cases higher) than the other side, along with a bouncy ride. When it happens, I simply slide the arm back on; it stays on for a while and then falls back off. I don't know if I'm attaching it correctly, or if there are any special clips I should use. Can anyone help? The suspension system works perfectly while the arms are attached.
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They dont deal with so many cars like this here so I needed help to know what it was so I could tell the garage and find out if this is a problem they could fix. I couldent take it on a truck and move it from place to place. But help , absolutely not.
So I will never again own anything from Ford. I have red they are in finance trouble becuase of the world financial crize , but they behave as they didnt needed any more customers.
I am really so angry over that they even can behave like this . So my money will they never get again.
If anyone has a good idea in somehow making some sort of a protest list . Maybe
facebook ? If everone who feels the same will sign ?
So that Ford gets this . You know also in big company things like this the board never maybe hears about. So people "on the floor" who deals with customers can really do damage to a company.
I feel also that this is a issue a lot of lincoln owners has problem with .Even if it stands that they shall be changed when service after so and so many miles.
On my car they went about exactely on this miles. And my service appointment was not before 14 days after. They should absolutely keep good over this limit .
So no even if I love my Lincoln ,never again. And never Ford because of their ignorance for their customers.
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if upulg full solenoid it will hold air. code c1725
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What is the recommended method of disabling the light? OR what is the easiest?
Don't pay for the overpriced 3rd party springs if you don't have to.
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So i had it towed home, and bought a new sensor since there was no sound from compressor. NO GO
I followed the "compressor test" by using a wire to jump points A and B on the connector. There was more sparks, and no compressor music. From dealing with electronics, that tell me either the compressor or relay has a DEAD SHORT. That means that there is little or no resistance. So bad compressor. I am picking up 1 today for $150 here in Houston, remanuafactured.
i got tired od that problem.
My extended warranty just expired a few months ago on my 04 Navigator. I was looking at getting another e.w.. Now I have a possible future issue with my air suspension. My questions are:
Is it worth getting?
If so, what would be the best option?
I was looking at USAA, Fidelity, AAA, my credit union, and Ford.
I also heard that the it would be better to go with a coil spring kit.
Thanks