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On another forum there must have been ten or twenty different owners all with the same problem (some people the wheel just quit all together). The part to fix it was on "national backorder" according to my dealer.
Its getting fixed as we speak along with the other issues I mentioned above. I have a brand new (20 miles) V8 loaner right now. Same jittery, nervous ride as mine, but the extra power is nice.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
WOW 65,000 miles,even though you are having a few problems they dont appear to be any kind of major problems,more like annoyances. OFC thats easy 4me to say cuz its not happening 2me. lol But overall compared to problems I hear other new car owners talk about I still think our Genesis cars are doing great. Im pushing 13,000 on my 09 and I have still been problem free. They did fix something about 6 months ago when I got my free oil change and I cant even remember what it was now.I am always eager to hear your updates cuz you really pay attention to detail and give us very good info.I haven't posted for awhile cuz I got nothing to report and was out of the country for a few months. Again colegar thanks for all your input.
MIKLO
When every other major luxury brand sells AWD versions, what's up with Hyundai ??? Sems a rather dumb startegy!
If they bothered to produce an AWD version, 'm sure there would be many more like myself who would jump on this car...
As of right now the dealer has a new sunvisor on order for me and they fixed my power seat (took it apart and relubricated it). Hopefully that will be the end for a while.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
I think they cite advances in snow tire technology, the negative affects on vehicle dynamics (weight, difficulty in controlling the rear with the throttle) inherent in an AWD system and of course the hit on gas mileage.
As a limited example, the '10 Ford Taurus AWD carries a rather portly curb weight of 4244 lbs., where as the regular Taurus Limited weighs in at 4015-4042 lbs. (Genesis 3.8, 3868 lbs.).
Hyundai is uniquely positioned to utilize ultra high-strength steel more affordably as a parent co. of HYSCO. With increased use of such ultra high-strength steel in future Hyundais (the '11 Sonata already boasts "hot stamped ultra-high-strength steel body structure"), the added weight of an AWD system may be offset, which would be an exciting win-win for drivers.
MIKLO
However, when there's a foot of snow on the ground and you can't even get up a slightly inclined driveway (as mine is) with a RWD car, you really wish you had AWD.
My previous RWD cars with all seasons couldn't make a 2% incline. And since they're usually lease cars, I don't want to splash out for an extra set of wheels and snow tires that are no good to me after 2-3 years.
MIKLO
I am contemplating putting some great all seasons on so I don't have to swap out each season. I've selected the Continental Exteme Contact DWS. Anyone tried them?
dean3927 and miklo ... Who am I to challenge the guys at Motor Trend or Car & Driver, but I think that they must be smoking something if they think a rear wheel drive is better in the slick stuff that a good all-wheel drive system. The next time they see several cars that are stranded on icy roads, they should use that opportunity to see how many of the ones that are stranded have all-wheel drive. My bet is on most of them having rear-wheel drive. I have had all three (FWD, RWD and AWD) and I have previously lived in northern states. I don't think it is even a close call. I plead guilty to loving the way an Audi Q5 Quattro or an Acura MDX SH-AWD drives, even on dry roads. The new all-wheel drive systems that have" torque vectoring" that put more torque to the outside rear wheel during cornering really handle great. Okay, I realize that I have gotten off-subject here!
Just to clarify, the magazine editors' position is not that a RWD + snow tires is in any way superior to an AWD (w/ or w/o a locking center diff.) in poor driving conditions. It is simply that they would prefer the more dynamic and engaging driving experience afforded by the former set up, while still having enough traction to get around even in the heart of winter in the Northeast.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
What does it say on the window sticker? It should list the specs. for the engine, whether 375 or 385 hp's.
I have an '09 V8. It's 375 HP only with high octane gas, 368 HP (I think) with regular. When the car was new (April '09) I switched back and forth at least 6 times and I couldn't tell the difference one iota. So, I don't think 10 more HP would be noticed by me.
Now for the interesting part of this HP thingy; when the weather turned cold in November of '09 (Pittsburgh area) I could tell the difference then. Back to the high octane again but still no difference. Now I just run with regular. So, if what you want is more power, I’d move to a cold area because that “cold ram air intake effect” I did notice, for sure. It’s a shame the winter had to end.
As for driving in the snow with the OEM Dunlop’s, as I said earlier on this board, that car is HORRIBLE. I bought dedicated rims and had Nokian Hakkapeliitta R’s put on them and there was a world of difference.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I bought the car in Nov. 08 as a CPO. Right after the first bad weather that year I was driving up a slight incline on a country lane covered with thin ice. I made it almost to the top before my traction control kicked in and I came to a dead stop...and then started rolling, sliding back down the hill. If I tried to brake the car would start fish tailing, so I mostly just rolled. The road was very narrow with rather deep ditches on each side and I was also on a curve. We must have been going around 20 mph.
I can only thank heavens that no one was behind me because I must have rolled about 200 yards downhill before getting the thing stopped. You can turn the TC off on this car but I did not know it at the time so mostly it was my fault but those tires sure did not help.
The whole experience was made much worse because my wife was with me and she screamed bloody murder all the way down the hill. I explained to her that only my backward driving skills saved us from disaster, but she stubbornly refers to it as dumb luck when recounting the tale endlessly to anyone who will listen.
2013 LX 570 2016 LS 460
Please reply, because when I purchased my Genesis, I asked about the tires, not aware of the brand, I was told, they were made by goodyear :>( :>(; and had a good record! If this is an ongoing problem, I am going to raise hell w/my local dealer
thanks
Mine lasted 23k I probably could have driven them 5-7k more but I was begining to feel the wear while I was driving. I chosed Bridgestone Turanza Serenity for my second set and have been very very happy.
I also heard from many on the Hyundai forum that they were able to get well over 30k from the Dunlaps
I agree they are actually pretty grippy in dry and wet conditions. However, they are barely passable for an all season tire. Honestly, they should be a summer only tire IMO. They are wearing fairly quickly, obviously a softer compound to better grip the road.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Good luck and safe driving.
BTW its not only Hyundai putting tires that wear quickly, my 06 Avalon had Bridgestone Turanza EL400s and I only got 27K out of them.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
I get to destination, shut off the car and notice my steering wheel doesn't retract. I thought that was wierd, then when I went to trunk to get something and it wouldn't open (had to use key). The car was dead, nothing worked not even the door locks.
I couldn't deal with it at this point, so I left it and went in for my appointment. A little over an hour later car starts up and runs fine.
Fast forward to getting home, and car does the same thing and is dead in my driveway after shutting it off. I immediately assume battery issues, break out the voltmeter and the battery is showing 13 volts.
This morning go out to car, all is fine except my sunshade was up (was down last night) and the entire car is reset (trip meters, clock, radio lost all presets, etc)
It goes in to the shop on Monday along with the getting the new sunvisor they ordered for me put on (light wasn't working).
The car is a 09 V6 non-tech. Anyone have similar experience?
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
Yokohama; Bridgestone. Leaning towards the Bridgestone Serenity. Winter is coming to this part of the country, and based on previous comments, it appears that Dunlop are unreliable on the white stuff.
thanks!
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
I don’t think an “ultra high performance all season tire” will be good in the snow, especially on a RWD car. When you buy that type of a tire you’re getting much more in the way of performance features than snow traction. I’m convinced that with a RWD car a real snow tire is needed.
In addition to the chance of doing damage to rims when changing tires each season, you also run the risk of tearing the tire’s bead with all the stress being put on it each time the tire is broken down putting it on and off the rims. That’s why I decided to bite the bullet and buy dedicated rims for dedicated snow tires. Another benefit of this is that I can do the change over myself at my convenience. Going this route I don’t have to make an appointment to have the work done and the time involved doing it. I just don’t like baby sitting my car when I can avoid it.
Whichever way a Genny owner goes, if the car is going to be driven in the snow, the OE Dunlops have to come off.
‘houdini1 It sounds like you had a white knuckle ride going down that hill in reverse. It also sounds like your wife is related to mine. :sick: Keep up the good work. Eventually we’ll convince those girls that us car guys know what we’re doing.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
MIKLO
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
out on the highway, but all power goes out while car is setting at home. One
dealer installed a new battery. Within about 3 weeks everything was dead
again. I carried the car to another dealership. After keeping it for 5 days they
said they had fixed the problem. That was about 3 weeks ago. Yesterday,
when we went to the car, no nothing. Completely dead again. It goes back to
the dealer tomorrow. We are getting tired of this. My wife does not trust the
car to go anywhere. Anyone else having similar problems? rlr5
I believe the fix is to clean all bad connections; be it the positive wires or ground wires. Other than bolting the alternator and starter to the engine block there are usually no other grounds provided for these components. The battery is grounded to the frame of the car and this ground point must be good (clean and tight) or you can have the problems that you described.
Apparently, there was a small drain on the battery before they cleaned all the terminals and now there isn't. Hopefully this cures it!
I don’t buy that explanation. If you had a bad connection I don’t understand how there would have been a “small drain” (possibly any drain for that matter). A bad connection would prevent a drain not cause one, especially a “small drain”.
I’m not pointing a finger at you about what you wrote. You probably got this info from a Service Writer. My experience with Service Writers is that they don’t always understand what the technician told them and as a result they shoot from the hip when trying to explain the problem.
Hopefully they did fix the bad connections and you are done with this problem.
jmonroe
'15 Genesis V8 with Ultimate Package and '18 Legacy Limited 6 cyl
I do know that my voltmeter will be in the car with me for a while to help if this happens again. What scares me is this may be a problem for other Genesis owners.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
the dealer tomorrow.
Mention the "grounding problem" and tell them to call Hyundai directly, I guess there is a "tech" line of some sort. Keep us posted.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve
This may not have any relevance to those of you who have experienced power losses but for those who have mysteriously had their battery go dead, I may have the answer. When I first got my Genesis, every time I parked it at the airport for three or more days, I would return to find the battery as dead as a hammer! To make a very long story short, after they had kept my car for two straight weeks without finding the problem, I read about an Hyundai Azera owner having a problem with the hood-light switch. Sure enough, when I called them about it they checked and found that the hood-light switch on my car was leaned over in a position that it would not turn off the light when the hood was closed. At that point, it was a quick and easy fix.
For those of you who are having the power drastically reduced, it sounds like it is switching to the "limp home" mode. Mine did that when I was having problems with the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS). However, I was fortunate in that when it went into the limp mode, the technician was with me and he actually had some kind of computer monitoring device hooked to the car which gave him a code.
Both of the above scenarios were described in more detail in my earlier posts but I just wanted to mention them here in case either of them relate to problems described in recent posts. I am now at 68,000 miles and have not had any recurring issues.
Here is some background. I started sensing a "shudder" or hesitation while driving at various speeds, especially when I was barely tipping into the accelerator. I thought it was one of three things: A.) An electrical problem, or B.) Starving for fuel, or C.) A problem with the torque converter. After it went into the limp mode and the technician was able to get a code, he called Hyundai's hot line and they narrowed it down to a problem with the Throttle Position Sensor (TPS). That is the device that electronically tells the fuel injectors how far you have pushed the accelerator pedal. You probably know that the Genesis and most other cars these days are "drive-by-wire", meaning that they do not actually have accelerator cables like in the old days.
I don't know if you are experiencing the "shuddering" or "hesitation" symptoms that I did, but if so, you should definitely be suspicious of the TPS.
Thanks.
2023 Mercedes EQE 350 4Matic / 2022 Ram 1500 Bighorn, Built to Serve