Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see the latest vehicles!
Popular New Cars
Popular Used Sedans
Popular Used SUVs
Popular Used Pickup Trucks
Popular Used Hatchbacks
Popular Used Minivans
Popular Used Coupes
Popular Used Wagons
Comments
The SE trim version with its dual exhaust produces 192 horsepower and 181 lb.-ft. of torque.
Agile and very, very quick.
It's in a small canvas bag and the only downside is it has to be running before screwing it onto the tire valve: it won't start up against the tire pressure if it's already attached.
Currently 21.99
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Accord and Sonata have basically the same torque. Accord 181 and Sonata 179. That is more relevant.
Despite more hp the Sonata is slower in every performance test that consumer reports did (non - biased and under the same conditions) except for 0-30 where it was tied. 0-60, 45-65, 1/4 mile and 1/4 mile speed were all slower.
To use the horse analogy. It does not matter if your race horse is stronger, just if it is faster.
Power is only one part of what makes a vehicle accelerate quickly.
One easy way to look at power. If weightlifter A can lift 100 lbs 10 times in 10 seconds he is just as powerful as weightlifter B that can lift 500 lbs 2 times in 10 seconds. Weightlifter A's speed is what gives him his power since power is measured over time, but weightlifter B is the one you want to help you move your piano.
Very good analysis dudley.
Or if you don't want to feed $1.50 to the 3 minute pump at the quick market.
I started carrying mine when I had low pressure signal and got off next to Detroit Metro Airport and luckily the Shell station there had free air. Next to the airport. I figured I would have to pay to pump 'er up. Now the portable is in the trunk when I travel.
Mine may take 3-4 minutes to do 5 pounds if the tire is above 30.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
2017 Cadillac ATS Performance Premium 3.6
At 120.2 cubic feet, the Sonata has more interior volume than all of its key competitors.
Comfy and spacious.
So spacious that the Sonata is classified by the EPA as a “large car,” so it is literally a “class above” the Fusion, Camry, Altima, and Malibu which are rated as “midsize cars“ by the EPA.
The new generation of midsize cars from Nissan, Honda and Mazda are getting c. 20% better hwy mpg than the previous generation.
I assume that when the new generation of Sonata and Optima come out in 2015 they will match these numbers.
More units than what?
The Camry, Accord, Fusion, and Altima sell way more units than the Sonata. The Sonata is a fine car, and for 2014 Hyundai has added some nice improvements, but it's far from being a sales leader.
Hope they fix the blind spots on the Sonata for 2015.
Easier to park."
True, but....
The Sonata's IIHS small-offset crash test rating was Marginal, which is worse than the Good rating of the Accord, and the Acceptable rating of the Altima, Optima, Fusion, Passat, Legacy, Fusion, Chrysler200, etc.
The Sonata is a fine car and very competitive in most areas. But it's not tops at everything.
I actually wonder if Hyundai beefed up the structure of the 2014 Sonata, along with the other improvements, so that it would perform better on the IIHS small offset test. Quite possibly. In any case, when the all-new model comes out for 2015 the Sonata will almost certainly do better on the test.
http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/v/class-summary/midsize-moderately-priced-cars
31: Mazda6, Altima
30: Accord
29: Malibu
28: Optima, Sonata, Camry
26: Fusion
25: Passat
24: Chrysler 200
Ford is still trying to recover from its myTouch disaster so Hyundais' Assurance Connected Care, the industry-leading telematics services program, which comes standard for three years with all 2014 Sonatas, gives the Korean automaker a huge edge.
I believe this is just about as-good-as-it-gets for the mid-sized sedan market; definitely clobbers any Bose system.
Maybe more like a slight edge in this one area? Not sure. The Sonata is a very good car, but not everything about the Sonata is peachy. Here's a sometimes good and sometimes lukewarm review of the 2013 Sonata from Automobile magazine....
"The Sonata is the clear loser of this match-up," deputy editor Joe DeMatio exclaims with surprise. "Excellent power delivery, but the engine is coarse and the transmission is its willing accomplice." Road test editor Christopher Nelson concurs. "I can see why this would've been an All-Star before its competitors were replaced with new models," he says. "It has a very strong engine, but it's coarse, with more idle noise than a good diesel." When you break down the Sonata's game, you're surprised to find too many negatives. The Sonata's 200-hp four-cylinder is powerful, yet copy editor Rusty Blackwell found its throttle tip-in to be touchy. We also disliked the Sonata's mushy brakes and numb steering, while this car's sport suspension delivered too much road harshness for too little handling improvement. "On a smooth road, the Sonata feels fine, but get it on a road with some bumps and it immediately starts to feel twitchy and unsettled," managing editor Amy Skogstrom says. The 2013 Hyundai Sonata delivers a lot of game for the money, and this continues to make it a leading value in its segment. Even so, it's just a little bit off from the best in every category, which proves crucial in a head-to-head tournament like this. For example, the bodywork is expressive, yet the roofline noticeably compromises rear-seat headroom....
Read more: http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1303_midsize_madness_day_two/viewall- - .html#ixzz2hst5wiLl
According to Ford's web site, the 2.5 duratec, rated 22/34, or 26 combined, is still the standard engine on the Fusion for 2014. But maybe that's about to change?
http://www.ford.com/cars/fusion/specifications/
31: Altima
30: Mazda6, Accord
29: Malibu
28: Sonata, Camry
27: Optima
26: Fusion
25: Verano
24: Chrysler 200
Driving through the mountains was the first time I was aware that I was driving a 4cyl and not my V6 Maxima, which took everything in stride. The Accord also made it through easily but I was aware the engine was working harder. However, it handled beautifully especially in the downpour where there was actual ponding on the roads. It has wonderful visibility which was much appreciated in both the rainstorm and city driving. Interestingly, the rear window stayed completely dry the entire time. I also appreciated driving nearly 500 miles on 1 tank of gas, and regular, not premium.
The Accord has one feature that I learned about on this trip. I'm sure they're common on cars with push button start but it was new to me. My husband was trying to put a bag in the trunk and it wouldn't close. It also sounded a small alarm. Turned out my remote was in the bag, and the Accord doesn't want you to lock your keys in the trunk.
All in all, while I loved my Maxima dearly, I have to admit that the Accord is actually overall a better vehicle. I'm speaking strictly of driving dynamics since of course any new car is going to have many more features than were available 12 years ago.
'17 Chevy Volt Premiere
Likely. But in real-world driving, the Sonata already matches what you got on your new Accord. In multiple 100+ highway trips with my wife's 2013 Sonata GLS, we got ~38 mpg, and that was with some in-town driving at the destination. Pretty darn close to the 39 mpg you got on your Accord with CVT.
30 mpg on a 2008 Accord (if it was a 4 cylinder) at 65-72 mpg is pitiful.
So where do you get this stuff from, a Hyundai sales brochure? Most of your posts look like they are copied and paste from advertising.
But some tests show that the Accord is beaten by about 1 mpg by the Altima and Mazda6. So those cars might set standard for mpg right now in midsize. But this AutoGuide test shows the Accord, Altima, and Mazda6 all tied at c. 29 mpg.
The 2008 Accord isn't impressive for mpg, but neither were other cars back then. It was rated 31 on the highway, and sometimes we get that at 65-70, but that's about it. That 30 number I mentioned was fully loaded with 4 people, luggage, and the AC on full blast. Back in 2008, however, most midsize cars were similar, including the previous generation Sonata. The 2008 Sonata was, in fact, rated at 30 on the highway--and so 1 mpg lower than the Accord of that year.
Here's the AutoGuide test:
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2013/07/2013-2014-mid-size-sedan-comparison-t- - - - - oyota-camry-vs-honda-accord-vs-mazda6-vs-hyundai-sonata-vs-nissan-altima-vs-vw-p- - - - - assat-vs-subaru-legacy-vs-kia-optima.html/3
The new skyacitiv Mazda6 seems to be the winner in some key areas, including handling, steering feel, sometimes mpg, and, although it's very subjective, maybe looks as well.
For me with a family the larger back seat and better visibility of the Accord are key features, along with the more widely available service and better navi.
But right now most comparison tests looking at most midsize cars seem to give a strong vote to the Mazda6, and I expect sales to increase at a good clip for the next several years. Mazda appears to be on a roll. They really have some engineering excellence on their side.
Having owned both Hondas and Mazdas I still prefer the Accord.
In other words, normal. It would have saved me an unscheduled stop if I knew which tire and how much it was off. When you have your most precious cargo in the car (my 3 kids), you can't just blow it off.
On the way back, it happened again. After slowing to 50 mph through a town for 20 miles, it shut off on it's own.
I have to give kudo's to my Turanza tires. They are fantastic in heavy rain, and I noticed a big difference in tire noise too. Very quiet, confidence inspiring tires, and very resistant to hydroplaning.
Makes you wonder if our cars ever really produced 198 and 200 that I am so proud of.
After seeing many comparo's in many magazines I always noticed that our Sonoptima's were not generating performance figures commiserate with the stated horsepower and weight of the car. Seems like F/E was not the only thing being exaggerated at Hyundai-Kia.
****I got the figures directly from the official Sonata and the Optima web site. Car and Driver still report 200 and 198.
It has never come on since. I check my tires all the time.
He didn't say it went down and insinuated by the term heat/speed induced that it was up. Anyway, I think most TPMS measure both ways and will give a warning whether too high or too low but that is an educated guess on my part. I would agree that 3lbs seems to be way too touchy. My Acura shows each tire pressure and when I leave the garage they are at about 30 and after a few miles on the expressway they are up to 34. I would have lights going on all the time if it measured only a 3lb variance.
The tpms system checks for variance....it has no idea what the pressure is supposed to be.
And I hit 42 mpg once on a highway trip in my Sonata.
The 2013 Sonata does exhibit better FE than the 2007 Sonata I4 we had before that, despite a big boost in hp in the newer car. I always got over the EPA 30 mpg highway number on the 2007 car, typically 33-34 mpg at 65-70 mph. So the 2013 does well in comparison. And is pretty close to the latest designs despite being a 4-year-old model.
I'm amazed at how close in highway FE my Sonata can come to my 2013 Rio, despite the Sonata having 60 more horses and a lot more weight. The Rio does much better around town than the Sonata, however. Both have the 6AT.
But a guy over at driveaccord.net had a 600+ mile tank and got 43.1 mpg....He even has a pic of it:
http://www.driveaccord.net/forums/showthread.php?t=75020&page=34
35% parasitic losses is surprisingly accurate with an automatic tranny, which is why the move to CVT's.
This is true for 2010+ models - I suppose it's possible the other system was used on earlier models.
http://pages.suddenlink.net/daydreamer/Coupe%20TSBs/Suspension%20System/10-SS-00- 2%20TPMS%20%28TIRE%20PRESSURE%20MONITORING%20SYSTEM%29%20GENERAL%20INFORMATION.p- df
The display on Hyundai’s telematics system, Assurance Connected Care, now has a simplified user interface, better navigation screens, and probably the best voice recognition found in any vehicle.
The system is also reputedly more intuitive for frequently used tasks.
The voice recognition software understands street addresses and cities all in one sentence while simple pop-up messages now appear to help pair a cell phone; previously pairing with most Hyundais could be maddening.
The route screen also displays speed limits and details the next three maneuvers and one or two button pushes now complete most functions unlike the complex Ford system.